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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Money For DVD Audio Burning Solution

I have read all of the threads here, and still can not get a DVD-Audio disc burned.

Therefore, the first person who private messages me a way to make it work (with a paypal account) I will send $10.

Here is:

WHAT I WANT:
  • To Burn a DVD+R or -R or +RW or better yet, +RW DL
  • Do NOT need surround or 5.1. Really looking for a way to put mp3 on a DVD to listen to many at once in the car on one disc.
  • Be able to put ANY mp3 source on the disc (have whatever program convert it to the right format). I see discwelder only does wav.

WHAT I HAVE:
  • A new HP DVD640e External DVD Burner, which supports Dual Layer, as well as + and - RWs
  • Burn.now 2.0 which comes with Ulead Moviefactory Disc Creator (notice now all companies use th ename "disc creator") 4. it suppoosedly burns DVD Audio Discs.

WHAT I HAVE TRIED:
  • Buring DVD+R, +RW. -R with burn now. In all instances it seems to put an Audio_TS and Video_TS folder on the DVD. The acura takes a second, then finds the disc as DVD audio and then spits it right out. (I did select DVD Audio not DVD Video Audio Only (which doesnt work at all in the Acura))
  • These discs also DO WORK on my computer with CyberD They do not work in the Acura.

WHAT I WILL DO:
  • Buy ANY Program that will work to do this, as long as it is not over $150. The Steinberg is out of the question for $550. I tried the sample of the DiscWelder, which doesn't do much but it aoppears it is very specific about what files it will accept and it will not accept mp3. i f i am missing something here, please suggest.
    uring DVD+R, +RW. -R with burn now. In all instances it seems to put an

ONLY if you HAVE AN HP640e drive (or 640i which is identical except internal) and YOU HAVE MADE SUCCESSFUL DVD AUdio discs, THEN send me a message and post here for others. INCVLUDE WHAT BRAND DVDs you used if that is a factor (and +R or -R).

There are so many factors, and if someone who actually has gotten something to work correctly, with that machine, I would be SO happy and put $10 into your paypal just for being a help.

Very much appreciated!!!

Mike
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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Have you posted this in the Audio & Video Forum? Might get a little more action there since it covers the entire Acurazine spectrum.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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Apparently you overlooked this one piece of info, you gotta convert MP3 to WAV. Refer to this post on discwelder.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Do a Google for Zittware CDMaster32.

It converts protected MP3's to WAV or WMV formats.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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Converting the MP3s isnt a problem. In fact, in Burn.now trhey have an option to convert them to wav and choose a wav format called DVD Audio! Although the files are about 53 Megs though!

I downloaded something called Gear pro. This is WAY too complicated, although it supposedly does what I want. You need the $99 edition.

In any case when you go to make a DVD AUdio 1st it asks where you want the Audio_TS friles from, which I neve rknow what to answer. Then it wans video_TS files from someplace also, but doe snot explain what it actually is looking for in the manual..

Plus there are other settings that are much more complex and lastly it wouldnt write to my DVD...

I just tried the trial version from the,m

Here is a link.. if anyone can tell me if this works that would be great also

Mike

http://www.gearsoftware.com/products...ofessional.cfm
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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You still owe me $10.00...
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mayflowerman
You still owe me $10.00...
not for saying how to c onvert wav files.. that is easy enough

I want to buy Discwelder, bit the online demo doesnt let you do ANYTHING for the most part so I do not know if it works with my dirve, and they do NOT take refunds for opened boxes.


if someone has an HP burner and uyses Biscwelder (bronze) please let me know if it works.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 02:32 AM
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I'm using WaveLab5 and I'm pretty happy. I'm still messing with Multiple groups and different sampling rates to get the right combination of tracks and quality per disc.

It's pricey, but it works.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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Discwelder working demo?

Originally Posted by ASP
I'm using WaveLab5 and I'm pretty happy. I'm still messing with Multiple groups and different sampling rates to get the right combination of tracks and quality per disc.

It's pricey, but it works.
550$ is TOO pricey... I dont mind shelling out a lot of money but not when there is probably a MUCH cheaper alternative and/or someting that WILL be around the corner.

Is there a way to get a demo of discwelder so I can see if it works.. I mean one that actually will make a DVD?

If someone has it, or can tell me how to get it I would be MUCH appreciated. This would be for test purposes. I would buy the program in a heartbeat if it worked with my HP 640e DVD burner.

Mike
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeRadio

Is there a way to get a demo of discwelder so I can see if it works.. I mean one that actually will make a DVD?

Mike

mike... send me a pm with your email and i'll hook you up when i get home from work. I have a working version of the chrome demo that allows you to burn 10 dvd-as before it expires. best part .... because the demo came bundled with adobe audition, the chrome only cost me 49.95 to purchase.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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you can try this:

http://www.audio-dvd-creator.com/download.htm

it work for me

but you can get more free info:
http://www.videohelp.com
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by thescoundrel
you can try this:

http://www.audio-dvd-creator.com/download.htm

it work for me

but you can get more free info:
http://www.videohelp.com
I tried that program.

Dodesnt seem to work at all.... ANyone else have lick with it. WOnt even play in my toshiba standalone DVD Player
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DonKron
mike... send me a pm with your email and i'll hook you up when i get home from work. I have a working version of the chrome demo that allows you to burn 10 dvd-as before it expires. best part .... because the demo came bundled with adobe audition, the chrome only cost me 49.95 to purchase.
b.
Don

Thanks I really appreciate it....

I have adobe audition 1.5 which I bought but it didnt come with any discwelder...

Mike
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeRadio
I tried that program.

Dodesnt seem to work at all.... ANyone else have lick with it. WOnt even play in my toshiba standalone DVD Player
Same here. My Panasonic DVD-S97S would play them, but the TL wouldn't recognize any discs burned with this product.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DonKron
I have a working version of the chrome demo that allows you to burn 10 dvd-as before it expires...
oooops... i meant bronze not chrome
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DonKron
oooops... i meant bronze not chrome
I emailed the discwelder people. They said that the CHrome or Steel product will burn dual layer (too expensive for me I will wait until a mor ereasonable solution that works comes out).

Can you let me use the demo of the bronze? I will buy it if it works for sure.. I just want to make sure it does before ordering it and goign through thgat then having to return it.

Thanks for helping Don

Mike
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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DVD-RW DL? probably not but DVD-R absolutely....

Money = None if you have a softeare package that can burn ISOs like Nero 5.5.x

https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/lowering-springs-114664/

Burned about 5 so far and not a single coaster. Thinking about programing a GUI front end if I ever get the time.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Adobeman
DVD-RW DL? probably not but DVD-R absolutely....

Money = None if you have a softeare package that can burn ISOs like Nero 5.5.x

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114664

Burned about 5 so far and not a single coaster. Thinking about programing a GUI front end if I ever get the time.

This solution does work.... i tested it with 4 wav files, and it does work in my 05 TL as a DVD-Audio disc.

There are a few steps that need to be done before it will work, but there is a link http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml that explains every detail of what files to get. You will need to get a iso creation file and a dll file, and a link is provided in the pre-req. section on the link above. You will also need to convert all your songs/mp3's/etc... to .WAV files in order for this program to work. I started just using the example given on the how-to page just to see if it worked before i spent a lot of time trying to customize the process only to burn a coaster. But low and behold... I burned the dvd-a disc and stuck it in my TL and BLAM! it worked!!!! Takes a little bit of time to create the ISO image , but once that was done, i used Nero 6.6 along with a TDK DVD burner using Maxell DVD-R's and it worked like a champ after it took a while to complete the burn. just to give you an idea of how many songs you can put on one dvd-5 disc.. (4) 4-5 minute songs took about 183 megs of space. Roughly 100 cd quality songs on 1 DVD-A disc. You can do the math though i am sure. Sure beats 15 tracks on one disc!!!

Best of all... it's ALL free with the exception of the CD/DVD burning software such as Nero but if you have a burner, you should have software.

If you need any help on the subject, PM me and i would be glad to help (free of charge).

Have fun!!!

G...
Wow.. my first post on this forum after browsing it for over 3 months since i got my new TL.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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mildly out of place, but does the TL play DL discs?
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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DL is only +Rs right now.... not -r dont knpw

That burning process is too complicated for me.. I want to do this easily

I wil go through the step to convert to WAV but thats about it.. allt he other stuff with the iso etc is just a pain

I will try bronze
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeRadio
I wil go through the step to convert to WAV but thats about it.. allt he other stuff with the iso etc is just a pain
Converting takes me more time than the stuff you think is a pain. Building the images is a total of 4 commands. Burning the image is one more.

Seriously, DVD-A isn't something that is as mature as CD burning especially for the consumer market. It's gonna' take some investment on your part....
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Adobeman
Converting takes me more time than the stuff you think is a pain. Building the images is a total of 4 commands. Burning the image is one more.

Seriously, DVD-A isn't something that is as mature as CD burning especially for the consumer market. It's gonna' take some investment on your part....

I will invest!
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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In WaveLab the process is pretty simple.

1. Create & Save a montage (Basically just selecting what MP3s you want, maximum 99 tracks)
2. Create DVD-A Project. (Either using the single montage above or up to 9 saved montages with fewer tracks that become groups on the DVD-A disc.)
3. Burn Disc (Currently using JVC DVD+R)
4. Play and enjoy.

Note 1 : I have a lot of luck using 8 CDs per DVD-A disc, each CD is saved as a seperate montage or group)
Note 2: 16bit/44.1 = ~99 tracks and 24bit/44.1 = ~75 tracks
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ASP
In WaveLab the process is pretty simple.

1. Create & Save a montage (Basically just selecting what MP3s you want, maximum 99 tracks)
2. Create DVD-A Project. (Either using the single montage above or up to 9 saved montages with fewer tracks that become groups on the DVD-A disc.)
3. Burn Disc (Currently using JVC DVD+R)
4. Play and enjoy.

Note 1 : I have a lot of luck using 8 CDs per DVD-A disc, each CD is saved as a seperate montage or group)
Note 2: 16bit/44.1 = ~99 tracks and 24bit/44.1 = ~75 tracks
so WaveLab will take mp3s without converting?

Is there a demo so I can see if this works... This program is very costly, and I feel we are on a breakthrough as to what making these DVD-As will cost.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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It converts them to wavs when it is creating the montage, so it takes a couple seconds for each track. All I have to do is find the files and drag them in.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Demo here -> http://www.steinberg.de/displaydoc_s...id=&loc=doc243
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ASP
It converts them to wavs when it is creating the montage, so it takes a couple seconds for each track. All I have to do is find the files and drag them in.

This sounds great.. Unfortunately, there is no demo that seems to function to brun a disck to see if my drive will work. And it is still steep in price.

If f anyone has a cheaper way please let me know.. the $10 is still awaiting someones paypal!!

I need to get this done before a hge road trip and dont want to pay do much for software

Mike
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 12:10 AM
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Now that discwelder people are out of business

Any other solution besides very expensive Wavelab and not working burn.now?
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Note 2: 16bit/44.1 = ~99 tracks and 24bit/44.1 = ~75 tracks
Hey ASP or anyone that can help.

I created my first DVD-A with 65 songs and it works great. What confuses me is when I chose my songs (they were already .wav) I had about 80 songs and the total size of all 80 songs was about 4 gigs. But when I went through the wavelab process and created the DVD-A project it grew in size so I had to cut my song count to 65. Is that supposed happen? Is "total size of .wav files" not equal to "total size of created DVD-A"? Can anyone elaborate?

I selected 44.1 quality. Another question, where do you select the "bit" value (16 or 24). It seems like this might solve my issue. When I create a new audio montage all I can select is either 44.1 etc.

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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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How long are these tracks? Try 16-bit (CD quality). You should be able to get close to 100 normal-length songs that way. I think the last disc I made was 97 tracks @ 16-bit. You can toggle 24/16 in the DVD-A Settings tab.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Thanks for the help ASP. Ill check out that toggle when I get home or the next time I create another DVD-A.

So is it true that the actual size of all the .wav files will not equal the actual size of the created DVD-A? In other words 4 gigs of .wav files won't fit on a single layer DVD-A when you create it? Please enlighten me.

BTW I guess the average length of the songs are 3-4 minutes. Before converting to .wav they were all .mp3 at either 128, 160, or 192.

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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Yes, 4GB of WAV or 4GB MP3 files are not going to fit on a DVD-A disc. They are not directly saved as files (I.e. data disc). The conversion alters the size. Just like you could never fit 600MB of WAV or MP3 files on a CD if you convert to CD-Audio format.

I'm by no means an expert but I would assume that the size of an audio track in DVD-A format would solely depend on the converted quality (16bit/44.1, 24bit/44.1, etc.) and the length of the track.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Thanks again ASP.

I get what you're saying, if anyone else has insight let us know.

Yeah, I'm just used to how it works for making regular audio CD's. You pick 10-13 songs that are in .wav format which would total to about 600-700 MBs. Then when you create an audio CD the size doesn't change.

Just out of curiosity anybody know what the extra data that needs to be added to a DVD-A is?

Thanks.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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Wavelab no support for large MP3 Header

I tried using the latest version of 'wavelab' and couldn't get it to recognize my MP3 files. After investigating wavelab support communities I found out that the program doesn't like mp3s with large MP3 headers (images in the header, extra header information, etc). I also tried 'discwelder chrome' and 'audio dvd creator' with no luck. All attempts are done without initial MP3 conversion to uncompressed formats (wav) - which is a nice requirement I'd like to see in a DVD-A authoring program or one that is able to handle the variety of MP3 files / header types. -gh
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