HUGE uncald4 discount on 3rd Gen subwoofers!
#1
HUGE uncald4 discount on 3rd Gen subwoofers!
HUGE Discount until 02/22/2012......
$256.98 plus shipping for a sealed 10" enclosure
$262.34 plus shipping for a sealed 12" enclosure
$290 plus shipping for a ported 8" enclosure
$366 plus shipping for a ported 10" enclosure
PM or email me for package deals including JL Audio, Kicker, Rockford Fosgate and Boston Acoustics amps and subs.
Prices above include a custom built fiberglass subwoofer enclosure with trunk matched carpet. Custom variants are available at additional cost. Contact me for details.
$256.98 plus shipping for a sealed 10" enclosure
$262.34 plus shipping for a sealed 12" enclosure
$290 plus shipping for a ported 8" enclosure
$366 plus shipping for a ported 10" enclosure
PM or email me for package deals including JL Audio, Kicker, Rockford Fosgate and Boston Acoustics amps and subs.
Prices above include a custom built fiberglass subwoofer enclosure with trunk matched carpet. Custom variants are available at additional cost. Contact me for details.
#6
Dogmatic Dinosaur
uncald4 - have you ever measured the corner loading by using one of these boxes? I have one, I might guess it on the order of 3-6dbs (anecdotally) at the dash but I don't care enough to remove the sub, uninstall the box, move the box up near the rear seats and test.
Anyway, just curious.
Anyway, just curious.
#7
uncald4 - have you ever measured the corner loading by using one of these boxes? I have one, I might guess it on the order of 3-6dbs (anecdotally) at the dash but I don't care enough to remove the sub, uninstall the box, move the box up near the rear seats and test.
Anyway, just curious.
Anyway, just curious.
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#8
NOTE...
Every box that we build for you is tailored to the subwoofer that you plan to use. The correct airspace, the correct cutout and the correct mounting plate specs are used. In ported boxes we use the correct port displacement and tuning specs. This is the right way to build it. It's the only way we build it. Holler.
Every box that we build for you is tailored to the subwoofer that you plan to use. The correct airspace, the correct cutout and the correct mounting plate specs are used. In ported boxes we use the correct port displacement and tuning specs. This is the right way to build it. It's the only way we build it. Holler.
#11
Drifting
NOTE...
Every box that we build for you is tailored to the subwoofer that you plan to use. The correct airspace, the correct cutout and the correct mounting plate specs are used. In ported boxes we use the correct port displacement and tuning specs. This is the right way to build it. It's the only way we build it. Holler.
Every box that we build for you is tailored to the subwoofer that you plan to use. The correct airspace, the correct cutout and the correct mounting plate specs are used. In ported boxes we use the correct port displacement and tuning specs. This is the right way to build it. It's the only way we build it. Holler.
low? high?
Don't be
You make nice boxes.
#15
Dogmatic Dinosaur
If anybody cares, my corner box is 5.1db louder than the same sub in the same box up against the seat point forwards or backwards at 40hz. I finally got unlazy and tested it out...
#26
Team Owner
I do like large subs for the efficiency and less excursion required along with a generally lower Fs, but the tight or punchy or sloppy or whatever sound is determined mostly by the enclosure.
#29
Team Owner
That's what I was wondering, what model are they, I want to see how they spec out. The flame ones look an awful lot like Pyle subs which actually work well in IB.
#31
Team Owner
Always go with the most cone area you can fit in the proper enclosure. However, putting a large sub or any other sub in too small of an enclosure will make it sound boomy. Or said another way, if you can't give it the airspace it needs, go with a smaller sub. Most facory recommended enclosure sizes are on the small side to make it harder to damage the subs. Most will sound better in larger enclosures. Using my trunk as the enclosure, my 15s produce incredibly powerful, tight, quick bass.
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#33
I used to do a ton of business here on AZ which was well worth the vendor fee. But now everyone here is a professional. Everyone knows what I know and can do what I do. It's very discouraging and makes it impossible to do business.
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#34
Originally Posted by rockstar143
That's good to know...I actually didn't. I thought smaller gave punchier, tighter bass.
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#36
Racer
I'm leaving as a vendor but that also kills my username.
I used to do a ton of business here on AZ which was well worth the vendor fee. But now everyone here is a professional. Everyone knows what I know and can do what I do. It's very discouraging and makes it impossible to do business.
You guys can do me a favor and LIKE us on Facebook. Check out the work we do in-shop.
I used to do a ton of business here on AZ which was well worth the vendor fee. But now everyone here is a professional. Everyone knows what I know and can do what I do. It's very discouraging and makes it impossible to do business.
You guys can do me a favor and LIKE us on Facebook. Check out the work we do in-shop.
#37
Team Owner
I'll take orders via PM. I just recommend email or FB because I get instant notifications and can respond much faster versus a PM.
Smaller subwoofers move faster. The size of the cone and motor structure definitely plays into the dynamics of a bass note. Those characteristics also play into how a bass note matures in the given space of a vehicle. A bigger subwoofer doesn't necessarily equate to bigger bass.
Smaller subwoofers move faster. The size of the cone and motor structure definitely plays into the dynamics of a bass note. Those characteristics also play into how a bass note matures in the given space of a vehicle. A bigger subwoofer doesn't necessarily equate to bigger bass.
I'll promise you my 15s will keep up with any 8" sub out there in "quickness".
How can one sub be "quicker" than another? If it's playing a 30hz tone, it's moving in and out 30 times a second. This is true whether it's an 8" or a 15" sub. If it's moving slower or faster, it's playing a different frequency. With higher moving mass comes more motor strength to offset the difference. Or with a 15 like mine, moving mass is lower than many 10s.
If you're talking transient response, that's related to frequency response. The enclosure determines much of that. A small enclosure will make a sub sound "slower" and boomy regardless of the sub's size. Many people want a 15 but don't have the room so they stuff it in an enclosoure that's too small for the sub and then complain that 15s are slow. You could argue that a large sub does not have to move as far for a given SPL so it could have even quicker response though that's not true.
Larger will have less excursion for the same SPL resulting in less distortion. Larger will have higher efficiency resulting in a lower power requirement. Larger will have a lower Fs resulting in more effortless and more efficient low bass. Larger usually has more xmax for even more output.
A bigger sub in the same location, in the equivalent enclosure off of the same power, all else being equal will always result in more bass and it will likely sound better as well. 8s have one advantage... space.
Anyone in Ca that wants to hear my "slow" 15s is more than welcome to take a listen to prove this theory wrong once and for all. These myths need to die.
#38
Sorry to see you leave, but business is business. I liked your page and I'm hoping to flip you an email (can't do it from the office) about my needs and setting something up for later in the year for me to drive down and have an install. Is your sale still going on until February 22nd or has it been truncated to January 31st?
Originally Posted by I hate cars
This shows why you get defensive....
..... These myths need to die.
..... These myths need to die.
A 15" subwoofer and an 8" subwoofer both make a 30hz tone, that's correct. At 30hz they are both moving "at the same speed". Let's relate this to something similar. Both a Ford F-150 and Lamborghini Aventador can do 60mph. At 60mph they are both going the exact same speed. Would you argue that the Ford pickup is just as fast?
I would argue that the Lambo can get up to speed much faster and slow down/stop way faster. It takes a subwoofer of larger mass more time to react to changes in AC current. It takes a smaller sub less time to do the same.
Last edited by uncald4; 01-27-2012 at 05:23 PM.
#39
Coolest A-zine Member
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Not trashing your thread at all. Hell I can't build a fiberglass enclosure like that so I'd come to you if I needed one. I've told many people about your enclosures and I'm pretty sure multiple people have gotten them. Not talking down on what you do or questioning what you do. My comment was in regard to "whether I should get a 10" or 12" question....
I would think that your statement would have to do with moving mass and motor strength. I dunno though...
I would think that your statement would have to do with moving mass and motor strength. I dunno though...
Last edited by Trunk Monkey; 01-27-2012 at 05:56 PM.
#40
Team Owner
Sweet, thank you! The discount will carry until Feb 22nd.
Whoa now!
A 15" subwoofer and an 8" subwoofer both make a 30hz tone, that's correct. At 30hz they are both moving "at the same speed". Let's relate this to something similar. Both a Ford F-150 and Lamborghini Aventador can do 60mph. At 60mph they are both going the exact same speed. Would you argue that the Ford pickup is just as fast?
I would argue that the Lambo can get up to speed much faster and slow down/stop way faster. It takes a subwoofer of larger mass more time to react to changes in AC current. It takes a smaller sub less time to do the same.
Whoa now!
A 15" subwoofer and an 8" subwoofer both make a 30hz tone, that's correct. At 30hz they are both moving "at the same speed". Let's relate this to something similar. Both a Ford F-150 and Lamborghini Aventador can do 60mph. At 60mph they are both going the exact same speed. Would you argue that the Ford pickup is just as fast?
I would argue that the Lambo can get up to speed much faster and slow down/stop way faster. It takes a subwoofer of larger mass more time to react to changes in AC current. It takes a smaller sub less time to do the same.
If a 15" sub is moving 5mm on a 60hz tone and an 8" is moving 5mm on a 60hz tone, they're both accelerating at the exact same rate. They're starting and stopping 5 times per second and covering the same 5mm distance in between starts and stops. How can one be accelerating quicker than the other?
You're talking about an electrical motor here. One reacts just as quick as the next. Motor strength controls the cone so if you have a heavier cone, you add motor strength.
When talking about a small sealed box, the airspring does more to resist the movement of the cone than the mass of the cone.
Think about why in every sub line, as you go up in size, efficiency goes up as well.
There is absolutely no connection between sub size and quickness.