Hello....need some input on system
07-21-2009, 10:26 PM
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Hello....need some input on system
Welcome...need some advice on set up
well let me say my name is Erick and ive been checking on this site up to 4 month prior to getting my TL a few days ago i got a 06 with 25k miles and its loaded.I like to use the "search" button but somethings ive tried gettin info on were not to clear and i didnt wanna bump old threads. Im an installer by trade and a business owner also(on line company). Most installers feel like they cant ask question because it makes them feel like they dont have the knowledge. I have been installing for 7 years and will finishing college in 2 years.
Now to the system i took my old system out of my old car which was doing the "big 3" large optima yellow top, pioneer premier deh-800prs, Focal polyglass components, a 300/4 jl and a 500/1 powering a 10w7 in a box i built 2.1@29hz. No rear fill, I ran my headunit in a/an active set up. i want to get the same level of quality out of my TL but have a few question. I will more then likely be selling my slash series amps and going with the digital series and give them a run since there smaller.
i just finished up working on my boys g35 sedan using a 3sixty.2 i have pics on diymobileaudio.com and i caught the signal before the factory bose, and cleaned up the signal from there since the factory bose didnt have a sub input i just had to sum all the input channels on the 3sixty to create the sub and center channel output.
I hear that on the TL's catching the low level before the amp is bad?"true"? Is there a sub input going to the Tl's factory amp? Are they any diagrams online, i havent been found any
I also researched the removal of the 2 mics in the headliner so that you dont get sub feedback are both needed or can one be left in?
Are all the outputs from the deck low level? I ask because on a few cars ive working on including audi and sabb they will amp only the rear speakers or if they do amp the front doors the dash speakers will be high level.
I ask these questions because honestly in my years installing ive worked on a ton of 2nd gen TL's but only 1,3rd gen TL and it was just a isimple ipod connection which was really easy.
well let me say my name is Erick and ive been checking on this site up to 4 month prior to getting my TL a few days ago i got a 06 with 25k miles and its loaded.I like to use the "search" button but somethings ive tried gettin info on were not to clear and i didnt wanna bump old threads. Im an installer by trade and a business owner also(on line company). Most installers feel like they cant ask question because it makes them feel like they dont have the knowledge. I have been installing for 7 years and will finishing college in 2 years.
Now to the system i took my old system out of my old car which was doing the "big 3" large optima yellow top, pioneer premier deh-800prs, Focal polyglass components, a 300/4 jl and a 500/1 powering a 10w7 in a box i built 2.1@29hz. No rear fill, I ran my headunit in a/an active set up. i want to get the same level of quality out of my TL but have a few question. I will more then likely be selling my slash series amps and going with the digital series and give them a run since there smaller.
i just finished up working on my boys g35 sedan using a 3sixty.2 i have pics on diymobileaudio.com and i caught the signal before the factory bose, and cleaned up the signal from there since the factory bose didnt have a sub input i just had to sum all the input channels on the 3sixty to create the sub and center channel output.
I hear that on the TL's catching the low level before the amp is bad?"true"? Is there a sub input going to the Tl's factory amp? Are they any diagrams online, i havent been found any
I also researched the removal of the 2 mics in the headliner so that you dont get sub feedback are both needed or can one be left in?
Are all the outputs from the deck low level? I ask because on a few cars ive working on including audi and sabb they will amp only the rear speakers or if they do amp the front doors the dash speakers will be high level.
I ask these questions because honestly in my years installing ive worked on a ton of 2nd gen TL's but only 1,3rd gen TL and it was just a isimple ipod connection which was really easy.
07-21-2009, 11:09 PM
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Welcome...need some advice on set up
well let me say my name is Erick and ive been checking on this site up to 4 month prior to getting my TL a few days ago i got a 06 with 25k miles and its loaded.I like to use the "search" button but somethings ive tried gettin info on were not to clear and i didnt wanna bump old threads. Im an installer by trade and a business owner also(on line company). Most installers feel like they cant ask question because it makes them feel like they dont have the knowledge. I have been installing for 7 years and will finishing college in 2 years.
Now to the system i took my old system out of my old car which was doing the "big 3" large optima yellow top, pioneer premier deh-800prs, Focal polyglass components, a 300/4 jl and a 500/1 powering a 10w7 in a box i built 2.1@29hz. No rear fill, I ran my headunit in a/an active set up. i want to get the same level of quality out of my TL but have a few question. I will more then likely be selling my slash series amps and going with the digital series and give them a run since there smaller.
i just finished up working on my boys g35 sedan using a 3sixty.2 i have pics on diymobileaudio.com and i caught the signal before the factory bose, and cleaned up the signal from there since the factory bose didnt have a sub input i just had to sum all the input channels on the 3sixty to create the sub and center channel output.
I hear that on the TL's catching the low level before the amp is bad?"true"? Is there a sub input going to the Tl's factory amp? Are they any diagrams online, i havent been found any
I also researched the removal of the 2 mics in the headliner so that you dont get sub feedback are both needed or can one be left in?
Are all the outputs from the deck low level? I ask because on a few cars ive working on including audi and sabb they will amp only the rear speakers or if they do amp the front doors the dash speakers will be high level.
I ask these questions because honestly in my years installing ive worked on a ton of 2nd gen TL's but only 1,3rd gen TL and it was just a isimple ipod connection which was really easy.
well let me say my name is Erick and ive been checking on this site up to 4 month prior to getting my TL a few days ago i got a 06 with 25k miles and its loaded.I like to use the "search" button but somethings ive tried gettin info on were not to clear and i didnt wanna bump old threads. Im an installer by trade and a business owner also(on line company). Most installers feel like they cant ask question because it makes them feel like they dont have the knowledge. I have been installing for 7 years and will finishing college in 2 years.
Now to the system i took my old system out of my old car which was doing the "big 3" large optima yellow top, pioneer premier deh-800prs, Focal polyglass components, a 300/4 jl and a 500/1 powering a 10w7 in a box i built 2.1@29hz. No rear fill, I ran my headunit in a/an active set up. i want to get the same level of quality out of my TL but have a few question. I will more then likely be selling my slash series amps and going with the digital series and give them a run since there smaller.
i just finished up working on my boys g35 sedan using a 3sixty.2 i have pics on diymobileaudio.com and i caught the signal before the factory bose, and cleaned up the signal from there since the factory bose didnt have a sub input i just had to sum all the input channels on the 3sixty to create the sub and center channel output.
I hear that on the TL's catching the low level before the amp is bad?"true"? Is there a sub input going to the Tl's factory amp? Are they any diagrams online, i havent been found any
I also researched the removal of the 2 mics in the headliner so that you dont get sub feedback are both needed or can one be left in?
Are all the outputs from the deck low level? I ask because on a few cars ive working on including audi and sabb they will amp only the rear speakers or if they do amp the front doors the dash speakers will be high level.
I ask these questions because honestly in my years installing ive worked on a ton of 2nd gen TL's but only 1,3rd gen TL and it was just a isimple ipod connection which was really easy.
now that i've gotten that out of the way..
to me...that would definitely be the best suggestion is to pull the signal prior to the stock amplifier...and yes there is a sub signal from the headunit to the amplifier...however i will warn you that it is not true non fader output ...it is a summed signal of rear channels...biggest clue that it will have a discrete sub signal is the fact of DVD Audio...multichannels need multi signals
mics are on certain models that have the Active Noise Cancelling system...if they're there...remove them...common sense...pressure is pressure from front to back...
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07-21-2009, 11:16 PM
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Welcome...need some advice on set up
well let me say my name is Erick and ive been checking on this site up to 4 month prior to getting my TL a few days ago i got a 06 with 25k miles and its loaded.I like to use the "search" button but somethings ive tried gettin info on were not to clear and i didnt wanna bump old threads. Im an installer by trade and a business owner also(on line company). Most installers feel like they cant ask question because it makes them feel like they dont have the knowledge. I have been installing for 7 years and will finishing college in 2 years.
Now to the system i took my old system out of my old car which was doing the "big 3" large optima yellow top, pioneer premier deh-800prs, Focal polyglass components, a 300/4 jl and a 500/1 powering a 10w7 in a box i built 2.1@29hz. No rear fill, I ran my headunit in a/an active set up. i want to get the same level of quality out of my TL but have a few question. I will more then likely be selling my slash series amps and going with the digital series and give them a run since there smaller.
i just finished up working on my boys g35 sedan using a 3sixty.2 i have pics on diymobileaudio.com and i caught the signal before the factory bose, and cleaned up the signal from there since the factory bose didnt have a sub input i just had to sum all the input channels on the 3sixty to create the sub and center channel output.
I hear that on the TL's catching the low level before the amp is bad?"true"? Is there a sub input going to the Tl's factory amp? Are they any diagrams online, i havent been found any
I also researched the removal of the 2 mics in the headliner so that you dont get sub feedback are both needed or can one be left in?
Are all the outputs from the deck low level? I ask because on a few cars ive working on including audi and sabb they will amp only the rear speakers or if they do amp the front doors the dash speakers will be high level.
I ask these questions because honestly in my years installing ive worked on a ton of 2nd gen TL's but only 1,3rd gen TL and it was just a isimple ipod connection which was really easy.
well let me say my name is Erick and ive been checking on this site up to 4 month prior to getting my TL a few days ago i got a 06 with 25k miles and its loaded.I like to use the "search" button but somethings ive tried gettin info on were not to clear and i didnt wanna bump old threads. Im an installer by trade and a business owner also(on line company). Most installers feel like they cant ask question because it makes them feel like they dont have the knowledge. I have been installing for 7 years and will finishing college in 2 years.
Now to the system i took my old system out of my old car which was doing the "big 3" large optima yellow top, pioneer premier deh-800prs, Focal polyglass components, a 300/4 jl and a 500/1 powering a 10w7 in a box i built 2.1@29hz. No rear fill, I ran my headunit in a/an active set up. i want to get the same level of quality out of my TL but have a few question. I will more then likely be selling my slash series amps and going with the digital series and give them a run since there smaller.
i just finished up working on my boys g35 sedan using a 3sixty.2 i have pics on diymobileaudio.com and i caught the signal before the factory bose, and cleaned up the signal from there since the factory bose didnt have a sub input i just had to sum all the input channels on the 3sixty to create the sub and center channel output.
I hear that on the TL's catching the low level before the amp is bad?"true"? Is there a sub input going to the Tl's factory amp? Are they any diagrams online, i havent been found any
I also researched the removal of the 2 mics in the headliner so that you dont get sub feedback are both needed or can one be left in?
Are all the outputs from the deck low level? I ask because on a few cars ive working on including audi and sabb they will amp only the rear speakers or if they do amp the front doors the dash speakers will be high level.
I ask these questions because honestly in my years installing ive worked on a ton of 2nd gen TL's but only 1,3rd gen TL and it was just a isimple ipod connection which was really easy.
deck to amp is low level...
everything on this car is extraordinarily basic...
-Jason
07-22-2009, 09:29 AM
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07-22-2009, 09:45 AM
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Your right he did give some good advice and I'd like to say thanks alot. I have no problem talking advise it just kinda threw me for a loop didn't expect to kinda get it like that but it's all good nothing personal, I assume. He does nice work from what I've seen and I'm most deft looking up to his 2 w6v2 bandpass build and even checked out the YouTube videos before joining the forum so it kinda took me back getting it from a guy that I think does nice work and car I kinda wanna use as motivation on my build.
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feelin the love...when i get it done it'll be sooo worth it...it's not a matter of if....it's a matter of when...
lol...
eiswritsat...please don't get offended...i consider myself a sarcastic ass...but i'd be more than offer you any help that you require...
my guess is that you're a best buy installer?
and...please use grammer/spell checkers please!
I hate cars...
i'm gunnin for the banned title! so you better watch out fool!!!hahaha...Also what are you goin to be doing this weekend...we have a huge drift event this weekend at willowsprings....hehe...should be a good time..
-Jason
07-22-2009, 09:53 PM
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hahahaha...ass =)
feelin the love...when i get it done it'll be sooo worth it...it's not a matter of if....it's a matter of when...
lol...
eiswritsat...please don't get offended...i consider myself a sarcastic ass...but i'd be more than offer you any help that you require...
my guess is that you're a best buy installer?
and...please use grammer/spell checkers please!
I hate cars...
i'm gunnin for the banned title! so you better watch out fool!!!hahaha...Also what are you goin to be doing this weekend...we have a huge drift event this weekend at willowsprings....hehe...should be a good time..
-Jason
feelin the love...when i get it done it'll be sooo worth it...it's not a matter of if....it's a matter of when...
lol...
eiswritsat...please don't get offended...i consider myself a sarcastic ass...but i'd be more than offer you any help that you require...
my guess is that you're a best buy installer?
and...please use grammer/spell checkers please!
I hate cars...
i'm gunnin for the banned title! so you better watch out fool!!!hahaha...Also what are you goin to be doing this weekend...we have a huge drift event this weekend at willowsprings....hehe...should be a good time..
-Jason
07-23-2009, 03:12 AM
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Lol it's cool but no the closiest thing I got to best buy was working at Hi-Fi buys/tweeter before we closed down here in GA. Most of us guys scattered to small shops. We really don't have the big shops like Florida, Cali, or Texas.
07-23-2009, 01:09 PM
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Tapping after the factory amp is good if you want to retain the voice functionality of the navigation system and the Hands Free Link system. The signal does become slightly degraded, but using a 3.sixty.2 should fix that with some proper adjustments.
The mics are only on the TL-S models, both will need to be unplugged otherwise the sub will be making a constant thumping sound.
All the speakers in the TL are hooked up to the factory amplifier, including the center channel...
also CSW, didn't you get banned once before, I think I Hate Cars just made it even with his last one. If you want to get ahead, it can be arranged...
The mics are only on the TL-S models, both will need to be unplugged otherwise the sub will be making a constant thumping sound.
All the speakers in the TL are hooked up to the factory amplifier, including the center channel...
also CSW, didn't you get banned once before, I think I Hate Cars just made it even with his last one. If you want to get ahead, it can be arranged...
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Tapping after the factory amp is good if you want to retain the voice functionality of the navigation system and the Hands Free Link system. The signal does become slightly degraded, but using a 3.sixty.2 should fix that with some proper adjustments.
The mics are only on the TL-S models, both will need to be unplugged otherwise the sub will be making a constant thumping sound.
All the speakers in the TL are hooked up to the factory amplifier, including the center channel...
also CSW, didn't you get banned once before, I think I Hate Cars just made it even with his last one. If you want to get ahead, it can be arranged...
The mics are only on the TL-S models, both will need to be unplugged otherwise the sub will be making a constant thumping sound.
All the speakers in the TL are hooked up to the factory amplifier, including the center channel...
also CSW, didn't you get banned once before, I think I Hate Cars just made it even with his last one. If you want to get ahead, it can be arranged...
i still have full funtionality of the stock system...HFL still plays out of the front channels and Nav Voice still plays out of the center channel...which is still hooked up to the stock amp....
lol on the bans...
-Jason
07-23-2009, 03:30 PM
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Tapping after the factory amp is good if you want to retain the voice functionality of the navigation system and the Hands Free Link system. The signal does become slightly degraded, but using a 3.sixty.2 should fix that with some proper adjustments.
The mics are only on the TL-S models, both will need to be unplugged otherwise the sub will be making a constant thumping sound.
All the speakers in the TL are hooked up to the factory amplifier, including the center channel...
also CSW, didn't you get banned once before, I think I Hate Cars just made it even with his last one. If you want to get ahead, it can be arranged...
The mics are only on the TL-S models, both will need to be unplugged otherwise the sub will be making a constant thumping sound.
All the speakers in the TL are hooked up to the factory amplifier, including the center channel...
also CSW, didn't you get banned once before, I think I Hate Cars just made it even with his last one. If you want to get ahead, it can be arranged...
I think he wants a year ban so he can really out do me.... Kidding.
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