DVD-A vs. DTS 5.1
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For discs that are playable in the TL:
DVD-A = high resolution audio, typically surround sound, on a DVD
DTS 5.1 = DTS-encoded surround sound audio on a CD
Mike
DVD-A = high resolution audio, typically surround sound, on a DVD
DTS 5.1 = DTS-encoded surround sound audio on a CD
Mike
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One other notable difference is that the TL's DTS decoding is not the best. Almost all of the DTS discs make a very noticable POPPING noise when played in the TL. I would liken the sound to a large rock hitting the windshield (not very pleasant to say the least).
I have never heard this with any of the DVD-A discs.
I have never heard this with any of the DVD-A discs.
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No problem with DTS discs
Originally Posted by Nodoze2004
I have never heard this with any of the DVD-A discs.
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Originally Posted by Nodoze2004
One other notable difference is that the TL's DTS decoding is not the best. Almost all of the DTS discs make a very noticable POPPING noise when played in the TL. I would liken the sound to a large rock hitting the windshield (not very pleasant to say the least).
I have never heard this with any of the DVD-A discs.
I have never heard this with any of the DVD-A discs.
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It's hit or miss with DTS CDs. Most of the "store bought" ones work fine in mine. In fact, I can't remember one that did not. However, the home made ones that I have vary.
I still have not been able to pin down what exactly defines a disc that "ticks". Is it the brand of disc? The burner? The speed of the burn? The color of the burn side?
I really would like to figure this out, but I really don't have the time....................
I still have not been able to pin down what exactly defines a disc that "ticks". Is it the brand of disc? The burner? The speed of the burn? The color of the burn side?
I really would like to figure this out, but I really don't have the time....................
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It's most likely just a bad read from the disc, which could be a number of things - did the CD skip? Did the media you use have a little piece of dust when it happened to be reading in that area? Etc... nothing serious. I've had it happen once or twice but I was never able to duplicate it, even with the same discs. And then when you're least expecting it, "SCREECH!"
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I have heard the popping too on my Eagles Hell Freezes Over album. It's DTS and when I first heard the popping, I kept looking up at the moonroof wondering what was landing on my car. I have not heard the popping on my DVD-A discs.
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Originally Posted by Zorom
What's the difference?
DTS discs use DTS compression of standard resolution (44.1 KHz, 16 bit) music. DTS is lossy and fits an album on one ~700 MB CD.
DVD-A uses Meridan Lossless Packing (MLP) of high resolution (96 KHz, 24 bit) music. MLP as it's name implies is compressed but not lossy and fits an album on one ~9 GB DVD. The DVD-A can also have other audio streams (often Dolby Digital surround or stereo high quality PCM of the same audio tracks) as well as some video.
There are other differences but these are the main ones.
-phil
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DVD-A, or DVD Audio, is a general specification that dicatates how data is to be represented on the media. DTS 5.1 is an optional surround-sound mix that is placed on some DVD-A (and DVD-video) disks.
It's comforting to hear that others have heard the rock-on-the-window smack that I have also heard when listening to a DTS encoded DVD-A disk. I've heard it very inconsistently on a Don Henly disk.
It's comforting to hear that others have heard the rock-on-the-window smack that I have also heard when listening to a DTS encoded DVD-A disk. I've heard it very inconsistently on a Don Henly disk.
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That Don Henley disc is a DTS-encoded CD, not a DVD-Audio. You can prove it to yourself by ripping it on your computer from a CD-ROM just like a regular CD (the tracks will be nothing but noise though).
I've been able to get rid of the "rock on the window" smack (a really good description of the sound, by the way) by ripping it to the computer, decoding it to six .WAV files and then creating a DVD-Audio of it.
There are others, though, such as Steve Miller's Fly Like an Eagle, that are also DTS CDs, do not exhibit the smack, and that the decoder on my computer cannot decode to 6 .WAV files. I'm thinking perhaps there's some error correction scheme being used on that disc that is not used on the Henley disc.
Mike
I've been able to get rid of the "rock on the window" smack (a really good description of the sound, by the way) by ripping it to the computer, decoding it to six .WAV files and then creating a DVD-Audio of it.
There are others, though, such as Steve Miller's Fly Like an Eagle, that are also DTS CDs, do not exhibit the smack, and that the decoder on my computer cannot decode to 6 .WAV files. I'm thinking perhaps there's some error correction scheme being used on that disc that is not used on the Henley disc.
Mike
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svtmike,
So, I learned something new today. I hadn't paid that much attention to the Henley disc, but it appears you're correct. It is not a DVD-Audio disc, and if I understand correctly, it cannot be played back on a standard CD player either. It requires at least a standard DVD player?
In addition to my previous statement, I should now add that DTS 5.1 encoding is not limited to DVD-A and DVD-V, but it is also included in DTS Entertainment's Music Discs.
Thanks for the enlighenment!
So, I learned something new today. I hadn't paid that much attention to the Henley disc, but it appears you're correct. It is not a DVD-Audio disc, and if I understand correctly, it cannot be played back on a standard CD player either. It requires at least a standard DVD player?
In addition to my previous statement, I should now add that DTS 5.1 encoding is not limited to DVD-A and DVD-V, but it is also included in DTS Entertainment's Music Discs.
Thanks for the enlighenment!
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Originally Posted by JEDFXTL
...if I understand correctly, it cannot be played back on a standard CD player either. It requires at least a standard DVD player?
Mike
#16
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.........................or a CD player connected to an amp/receiver with a DTS Decoder, or external decoder. Remember, these discs are CDs, NOT DVDs!
:-jon
:-jon
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Can the TL play SACD's?
I have only 2 DVD-A's - Metallica & Linkin Park. I want more but have not found anymore that I want to buy. I've heard that SACD's sound awesome. What is DTS 5.1 disc? How is this marketed? As a DVD or CD?
Thanks for your help.
I have only 2 DVD-A's - Metallica & Linkin Park. I want more but have not found anymore that I want to buy. I've heard that SACD's sound awesome. What is DTS 5.1 disc? How is this marketed? As a DVD or CD?
Thanks for your help.
#18
WayTooManyAcuras
You cannot play the surround HiRez tracks from an SACD in the TL. Some SACDs are "Hybrids", and have a redbook stereo CD layer, which you can play in ANY CD player.
DTS Entertainment originally marketed their DTS CDs are CDs, then changed the packaging to that of their DVD-A product and renamed that product as DTS Music Disc. They are just CDs, however, and require a DTS decoder for playback - which the TL has!
:-jon
DTS Entertainment originally marketed their DTS CDs are CDs, then changed the packaging to that of their DVD-A product and renamed that product as DTS Music Disc. They are just CDs, however, and require a DTS decoder for playback - which the TL has!
:-jon
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Originally Posted by oblio98
.........................or a CD player connected to an amp/receiver with a DTS Decoder, or external decoder. Remember, these discs are CDs, NOT DVDs!
:-jon
:-jon
Mike
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Originally Posted by svtmike
I'm pretty sure the CD player would need a digital output - an external decoder will not find the digital signal coming in on the analog stereo inputs. I left CD player off the list because I've never seen a CD player with a digital output (either coax or TOSLink) but if such a beast exists then yes that would work too.
Mike
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