DVD-A Problem
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DVD-A Problem
I just tried to burn my first DVD-A using Adobeman freeware and pretty much all the tracks skip to the next one or have white noise, I burned it at 8x and had 99 tracks so what's going on?
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Anyone?
This is really frustrating, I tried again with a different brand. My 1st try was with a Verbatim DVD+R, I tried now with a Memorex DVD-R and it does the same thing. Only a few tracks play.
I also tried making a different DVD-A using DVD-Audio Solo and this one only plays the first 14 seconds of the 22 songs. I used a TDK DVD-R that time so obviously this is not a problem of media.
Any idea what's going on?
This is really frustrating, I tried again with a different brand. My 1st try was with a Verbatim DVD+R, I tried now with a Memorex DVD-R and it does the same thing. Only a few tracks play.
I also tried making a different DVD-A using DVD-Audio Solo and this one only plays the first 14 seconds of the 22 songs. I used a TDK DVD-R that time so obviously this is not a problem of media.
Any idea what's going on?
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I would think now that the issue is with your computer. I would try to see if you could make it on another PC
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I really hope it's not the case because I just changed my computer about 2 months ago so I'm not gonna replace it anytime soon.
I really don't know what to do to fix this crap...
I really don't know what to do to fix this crap...
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When I had problems with skipping on songs, it was due to not running the mp3 throgh adobeman's recommended application for checking mp3s. I now alway run the mp3s through CDEx and I haven't had any problems since.
From Adobeman's post:
Mp3 to wav decoding, it ain't perfect...
It should be no secret to anyone that I dislike mp3s. I've bored others enough with why. But everone else seems to love them so I tried to build in a way to use then directly in the process.
BeSweet was chosen to be the decoder. I looked at using LAME to decode but it was more picky about mp3 files than BeSweet. (Odd since I think BeSweet's decoding is LAME based or a derivative)
BeSweet will often fail to decode an mp3. The GUI catches this. Additionally I had to limit mp3 files to 44.1K sample rate because BeSweet had problems with other sample rates.
My findings are that mp3 file integrity is all over the place. All the mp3s I made with CDEx/LAME to test the GUI decode perfectly. Many other mp3s acquired via "otherwise" did not. In all cases internal synch errors were noted in the files.
If you run into problems with the GUI decoding mp3 then I really recommend you get CDEx. It even decoded the bad mp3s although there were, as to be expected, skips in the wav files. In fact, even if you don't run into problems I still recommend you get CDEx. It is an awesome freeware tool. It will even easily decode mp3s not at 44.1K to wave files at 44.1K...just an incredible tool.
If anyone is familiar with any other better free mp3->wav decoders that can be used from the command line (or have an API for my C# code) then let me know about them and I might be able to make that an option for the GUI
From Adobeman's post:
Mp3 to wav decoding, it ain't perfect...
It should be no secret to anyone that I dislike mp3s. I've bored others enough with why. But everone else seems to love them so I tried to build in a way to use then directly in the process.
BeSweet was chosen to be the decoder. I looked at using LAME to decode but it was more picky about mp3 files than BeSweet. (Odd since I think BeSweet's decoding is LAME based or a derivative)
BeSweet will often fail to decode an mp3. The GUI catches this. Additionally I had to limit mp3 files to 44.1K sample rate because BeSweet had problems with other sample rates.
My findings are that mp3 file integrity is all over the place. All the mp3s I made with CDEx/LAME to test the GUI decode perfectly. Many other mp3s acquired via "otherwise" did not. In all cases internal synch errors were noted in the files.
If you run into problems with the GUI decoding mp3 then I really recommend you get CDEx. It even decoded the bad mp3s although there were, as to be expected, skips in the wav files. In fact, even if you don't run into problems I still recommend you get CDEx. It is an awesome freeware tool. It will even easily decode mp3s not at 44.1K to wave files at 44.1K...just an incredible tool.
If anyone is familiar with any other better free mp3->wav decoders that can be used from the command line (or have an API for my C# code) then let me know about them and I might be able to make that an option for the GUI
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Well, it's not really skipping as all the songs stop at 14 seconds and if I switch to let say XM and then come back to DISC it plays for another 14 seconds and stop.
I tried to put less songs so they fit on a CD-R and it plays flawlessly, go f'in figure!
I tried to put less songs so they fit on a CD-R and it plays flawlessly, go f'in figure!
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I don't recall the source of your files and if they were CD rips or mp3s. In all cases of skips (that what we call it when it skips to the next song prematurely) the following has helped.
Fred99x is right about CDEx. Use it to Rip CDs and/or to convert mp3 to WAV and it won't disappoint.
Burn at a lower speed. Sometimes that helps.
You are going to hate this...try another computer. I don't know your machine but let's just say that you sometimes get what you pay for. I've got an old Pioneer DVD-A05 (burner) and it's very slow at 4x max but never, ever, lets me down. In order to be competitive these days PC makers have really cut some corners. 'Nuf said.
Fred99x is right about CDEx. Use it to Rip CDs and/or to convert mp3 to WAV and it won't disappoint.
Burn at a lower speed. Sometimes that helps.
You are going to hate this...try another computer. I don't know your machine but let's just say that you sometimes get what you pay for. I've got an old Pioneer DVD-A05 (burner) and it's very slow at 4x max but never, ever, lets me down. In order to be competitive these days PC makers have really cut some corners. 'Nuf said.
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I'm currently having similar issues with some 6 channel wavs burned with DVD Audio Solo.
They all stop at 14 seconds and are silent for the rest of the track, or until I ff/rew or change inputs etc...then 14 more seconds till silence.
I have burned 15+ discs at anywhere from 2.4x to 16x. I have tried three different computers. I'm convinced that the issue is:
a) specific to the TL ELS DVD-A player
b) something to do with transcodes into wav files.
CDex must somehow repair the wave file in 2ch, however it does not do so in 6 channel files. Nor will it work with 1 channel mono files (it saves them as 2 channel 16 bit, when in fact they are 1 channel 24 bit)
Although this is not really related to DVD-A Gui, I thought the users and especially the OP would be intereseted in this information and if possible finding a solution to the problem.
FYI when I fixed this problem before with 2ch mp3s, I used a ripper that came with my creative player to do mp3 --> wav
then used CDex to do wav--> wav
Then I used DVD-A Gui to create the Iso, then I used DVD Decrypter to burn the iso.
Strangely enough, an ogg file transcode does it at 44 seconds
Flac, Wav (6Ch) and wav (6 mono channels) all silence themselves at 14 seconds.
They all stop at 14 seconds and are silent for the rest of the track, or until I ff/rew or change inputs etc...then 14 more seconds till silence.
I have burned 15+ discs at anywhere from 2.4x to 16x. I have tried three different computers. I'm convinced that the issue is:
a) specific to the TL ELS DVD-A player
b) something to do with transcodes into wav files.
CDex must somehow repair the wave file in 2ch, however it does not do so in 6 channel files. Nor will it work with 1 channel mono files (it saves them as 2 channel 16 bit, when in fact they are 1 channel 24 bit)
Although this is not really related to DVD-A Gui, I thought the users and especially the OP would be intereseted in this information and if possible finding a solution to the problem.
FYI when I fixed this problem before with 2ch mp3s, I used a ripper that came with my creative player to do mp3 --> wav
then used CDex to do wav--> wav
Then I used DVD-A Gui to create the Iso, then I used DVD Decrypter to burn the iso.
Strangely enough, an ogg file transcode does it at 44 seconds
Flac, Wav (6Ch) and wav (6 mono channels) all silence themselves at 14 seconds.
#11
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From what I have seen, Adobeman's prg only converts 2 channel MP3/WAVs to DVD-A. I wish it would do true surround like real DVD'A with DTS. I have found quite a few lately, though pricey, on the web.
I use his prg to burn DVD-A's to play in my new Kenwood and havenever had a problem playing them.
I use his prg to burn DVD-A's to play in my new Kenwood and havenever had a problem playing them.
#12
Racer
This is not an issue with Adobeman's software.
This 14 second silence issue is with wav source files
and/or
the Acura ELS system itself. I don't have another dvd-audio player to try to duplicate the problem (other than my computer, on which it plays fine after writing).
This 14 second silence issue is with wav source files
and/or
the Acura ELS system itself. I don't have another dvd-audio player to try to duplicate the problem (other than my computer, on which it plays fine after writing).
#14
Racer
Originally Posted by ArieS1204
Well, it's not really skipping as all the songs stop at 14 seconds and if I switch to let say XM and then come back to DISC it plays for another 14 seconds and stop.
I tried to put less songs so they fit on a CD-R and it plays flawlessly, go f'in figure!
I tried to put less songs so they fit on a CD-R and it plays flawlessly, go f'in figure!
Thought maybe someone would have a suggestion. Also wanted to add to other's comments that I had tried several writers and PCs, and that I thought it was transcode and ELS related, not hardware related -- but I could be wrong.
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I replied to your PM.
I don't have this problem anymore.
To me it was either because I wasn't using CDex or my copy of Nero was corrupted.
Let us know here how it goes.
I don't have this problem anymore.
To me it was either because I wasn't using CDex or my copy of Nero was corrupted.
Let us know here how it goes.
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Unfortunately you can't run 6 channel wavs through CDex, it won't process them. Nor will it process the .dts 48kHz /24bit source files I'm using
I can't seem to find anything that will transcode the .dts (dvd 48/24 files) to 6 Channel wavs or 6 mono wavs so that I can burn then with DVD-Audio Solo without having this 14 second (or in the case of ogg-vorbis 44 second) problem.
Things I've tried:
Foobar dts--> 6 ch wav --> dvd-audio-solo (14 sec)
Besplit fix crc dts --> foobar dts --> 6ch wav --> DVD-Audio solo (14 sec)
Foobar dts--> 6 ch ogg --> dvd-audio-solo (44 sec)
besweet dts --> 6 ch wav --> DVD-Audio solo (14 sec)
besplit repair crc dts --> besweet dts --> 6 mono wavs --> dvd-audio solo (14 sec)
Above combinations with discwelder chrome instead of dvd-audio solo (14 sec)
besplit repair crc dts --> besweet dts --> 6 mono wavs --> SureCode MLP --> discwelder DVDA (14 sec)
Above combinations with TranzcodeGUI.exe to make 6 mono wavs
All of the songs will play all the way through, provided you cue/rew or power cycle every 14 seconds.
I got so frustrated with it I had to walk away for a couple of days, and well, madden came out, so it may be a couple more before I get back to it.
I can't seem to find anything that will transcode the .dts (dvd 48/24 files) to 6 Channel wavs or 6 mono wavs so that I can burn then with DVD-Audio Solo without having this 14 second (or in the case of ogg-vorbis 44 second) problem.
Things I've tried:
Foobar dts--> 6 ch wav --> dvd-audio-solo (14 sec)
Besplit fix crc dts --> foobar dts --> 6ch wav --> DVD-Audio solo (14 sec)
Foobar dts--> 6 ch ogg --> dvd-audio-solo (44 sec)
besweet dts --> 6 ch wav --> DVD-Audio solo (14 sec)
besplit repair crc dts --> besweet dts --> 6 mono wavs --> dvd-audio solo (14 sec)
Above combinations with discwelder chrome instead of dvd-audio solo (14 sec)
besplit repair crc dts --> besweet dts --> 6 mono wavs --> SureCode MLP --> discwelder DVDA (14 sec)
Above combinations with TranzcodeGUI.exe to make 6 mono wavs
All of the songs will play all the way through, provided you cue/rew or power cycle every 14 seconds.
I got so frustrated with it I had to walk away for a couple of days, and well, madden came out, so it may be a couple more before I get back to it.
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The real kicker??? The 6 mono wavs, burned with dvd-audio solo, to six seperate tracks DO NOT have this problem. They play fine. Only when "muxed" into 5.1 do they have this issue.
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