I've come to the conclusion that DVD-A is dead as a format. The various online sites I visit to see what's new coming out have nothing in the way of new DVD-As. They do, however, have a fair number of new SACDs coming out.

It seems like DVD-A should be a winner, since everyone has DVD players. Alas, I guess I'm stuck with the 5 DVD-As I have for my TL.

 

thats what a lot of people said about DVD when it first came out, now its one of the biggest things. Cars are just coming out with DVD-A players, so you'll see the market growing. Esp with the introduction of dual disc, DVD-A is here to stay

 

I am about to get a Dual Layer/Format DVD writer for my computer. Does anyone know if I can burn multiple audio discs/songs to a DVD disc and then play them in my TL ?

 

This is a very cool site with lots of DVD-A info, plus a COMPLETE list of all DVD-A's released since 2000 by year.

http://www.digitalaudioguide.com/

Remember, Sony is PAYING part of the tab for UMG's big releases this coming week (Elton Johns, Eric Claptons), so you will not see DVD-A's of these titles until at least March. That's in their contract with Sony.

As for WB and the DVD-A group, who knows what they are up to, and why they are sitting on so many titles that are ready to go, and even pressed. They need to clear up the crap with the publishers and get on the boat, or it will be gone.

We'll see how these DualDiscs are accepted by the public. Remember, just because it's a DualDisc, does NOT mean it will have a DVD-A track. It may only have a Dolby Digital DVD-V track, and if it does it will NOT play in the TL. You can be sure the SONY DualDiscs will not have DVD-A, so you will be stuck with the CD side in the TL (if it plays)

What a mess!

Jon Urban
QuadraphonicQuad

 

With the intro of the DualDisc, hopefully the public will open up to this new format. Let's hope the record companies don't get too greedy and screw it up.

These are excerpts from an article in Sound and Vision Magazine by Brian C. Fenton

Even Sony BMG, one of the original backers of SACD now supports DualDisc along with Warner, Universal and EMI. However, Sony will offer surround sound via DVD-Video, not DVD-A and will still use SACD as their high res platform. DualDisc releases from 5.1 Entertainment Group planned for December will include Blondie's The Curse of the Blonde to Robert Cray's Time Will Tell. Some of the major labels like Warner and Universal will only have a few titles. Simple Plan's Still Not Getting Any , Nine Inch Nails' The Downward Spiral and Miles Davis's Kind of Blue.

There still seems to be a legal problem because of a patent holder for another CD/DVD flipper disc called the DVD Plus. They also made note that to accomodate everything on a disc that's only 1.5 mm thick, the DualDisc's CD side will be limited to a playing time between 60 and 65 min.

The subject of disc thickness bring up their biggest concern: compatatibility. A spokesman for Philips - co-inventor with Sony of both the CD and SACD - confirms that the DualDisc willnot carry the CD logo because of the depth of the CD side is not up to spec. The DVD Forum mandated a depth of 0.6 mm for the DVD side, which left 0.9 for the CD side. But the CD spec requires a minimum depth of 1.1 mm - "a huge differenc," says the spokesman. And he claims that, in tests by Philips, fingerprints and dust resulted in a 70% failure rrate when playing the CD side of DualDiscs.

 

Thanks oblio! Let's hope the record companies don't get too greedy and screw it up.

These are excerpts from an article in Sound and Vision Magazine by Brian C. Fenton

Even Sony BMG, one of the original backers of SACD now supports DualDisc along with Warner, Universal and EMI. However, Sony will offer surround sound via DVD-Video, not DVD-A and will still use SACD as their high res platform. DualDisc releases from 5.1 Entertainment Group planned for December will include Blondie's The Curse of the Blonde to Robert Cray's Time Will Tell. Some of the major labels like Warner and Universal will only have a few titles. Simple Plan's Still Not Getting Any , Nine Inch Nails' The Downward Spiral and Miles Davis's Kind of Blue.

There still seems to be a legal problem because of a patent holder for another CD/DVD flipper disc called the DVD Plus. They also made note that to accomodate everything on a disc that's only 1.5 mm thick, the DualDisc's CD side will be limited to a playing time between 60 and 65 min.

The subject of disc thickness bring up their biggest concern: compatatibility. A spokesman for Philips - co-inventor with Sony of both the CD and SACD - confirms that the DualDisc willnot carry the CD logo because of the depth of the CD side is not up to spec. The DVD Forum mandated a depth of 0.6 mm for the DVD side, which left 0.9 for the CD side. But the CD spec requires a minimum depth of 1.1 mm - "a huge differenc," says the spokesman. And he claims that, in tests by Philips, fingerprints and dust resulted in a 70% failure rrate when playing the CD side of DualDiscs.

 

FYI - Take a look at the '05 Cadillac STS. They too have standardized on the DVD-A format for their Bose 5.1 sound system. Other than CD, no other disc formats are available from Cadillac either.

http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/...ose&year=&df=n

 

This is all well-and-good, but I am still not seeing any new releases of DVD-A discs. Unless home-users embrace the format, a few luxury car makers cannot alone create sufficient demand...

I keep checking Amazon's DVD-A selections and never see anything new...

 

Amazon has a poor selection of DVD-A's, so they are not IMHO a good barometer. DVD Empire keeps a good new & future releases section and has a good selection (although not the best prices). When they have something in stock, DeepDiscountDVD usually has the best prices and they have around 300 DVD-A's listed.

I do agree that the number of new releases is very very thin.

Mike

 

Gotta agree with you guys about the selection being thin and poor. I usually shop on line at these places: Digital Eyes, DVD Empire, DVD Planet, and AIX Records. They basically carry most the same titles with Digital Eyes the least expensive. AIX on the other hand carries a lot of jazz and classical music and their recordings are great. If you're looking for some of the new artists, I believe we're out of luck there. At this point it's up to the record companies to decide what's to be released and when.

 

I looked at the site


http://www.digitalaudioguide.com/


and saw the releaseses of 2004, these titles and genre seem to cater to the baby boomers. not young gen xers

in my opinion.

Personally, I would like to see more elctronica in dvda format.

Ive got one called CLUB VOODOO, but it only has ONE good title on it...just one. (track 4)

 

the younger generations are more hooked on MP3's than dvd-a's. its basically the ipod craze.

 

mp3 quality sucks! i want 5.1 encoding!

 

where did you get that Title? I can't even find someone who has it in their database. can you give me a tracklist?

 

If you are looking for eloctronica you might want to check out Kaje, you can listen to some samples here. This website does not mention the DVD-A but it is available. I haven't decided if I like enough to buy it though. I'm more into Aphex Twin, Kraftwerk, FSOL and the like.

 

I stopped in Best Buy today to look at their selection of dvd-a cd's. It's better than it was a few months ago and they offer about the same titles as dvdempire. I picked up "The Who, Tommy". It sounds unbelievable. It's my first dvd-a and it won't be my last.

 

If you happen to have a Fry's in your area, check out their DVD-a selection. It is much larger than Best Buy or Circuit City.

 

The BB & CC stores closest to me pulled their inventory ..... Have yet to chekc on dual discs at these places ...... I sometimes prefer using the online sites mentioned in previous posts.

 

The BB & CC stores closest to me pulled their inventory ..... Have yet to check on dual discs at these places ...... I ocassionally go to Fry's to check out their sale items, but some of the clerks there have absolutely no clue. I prefer using the online sites mentioned in previous posts.

 

The FYE stores in my area also pulled their DVD-A's.

 

DVA-A has turned out to be overhypped in terms of product availibility; so while it is a great feature on the TL, I hardly use it anymore. This was one of the key factors in selecting the TL over the Infinity.

 

Plain and simple. If they keep putting out brand new high end cars with DVD audio players in them they'll have to start making more and more DVD audio Cd's.......eventually!

 

After spending the afternoon online looking for a specific DVD-A, I realized that there are fewer places on the net to buy DVD-A's than the last time I looked a few months ago. Circuit City no longer sells them in the store. No big loss there, they had only 25 or so and they were stacked on the floor last time I visted.
Best Buy had a display behind a support pole making it nearly impossible to browse. Tower records online store had the best selection. http://www.towerrecords.com/
I would love to have Pink Floyd, Ray Charles and more classic recordings but the current selection is very limited.
IMHO, better buy the DVD-A's you want now. Despite more cars coming out with the format, the DVD-A is a goner..