Do 1/0AWG ring terminals melt??

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Old 12-18-2012, 03:32 AM
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Do 1/0AWG ring terminals melt??

ordering stuff for big3 before christmas..

but i've read some stories where "thin" ring terminal for big gauge melted off of the bolt,,

would these, melt?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raptor-GRT1-...291542&vxp=mtr

they look relatively thin compared to screw-on types..
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:53 AM
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Buy name brand ones that are known to be good and dont buy cheap stuff. I bought all my supplies from knukonceptz.com and i havent had a problem at all .


You get what you pay for , when you buy cheap crap
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The reason why they "melt" is due to poor connections. If you have a poor connection all the power will push towards area of least resistance, increasing the heat and temperature and eventually failing.
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Originally Posted by Fulani has a TL
The reason why they "melt" is due to poor connections. If you have a poor connection all the power will push towards area of least resistance, increasing the heat and temperature and eventually failing.
poor connection as in, not fully seated, right?
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Originally Posted by Fulani has a TL
The reason why they "melt" is due to poor connections. If you have a poor connection all the power will push towards area of least resistance, increasing the heat and temperature and eventually failing.
Originally Posted by 4drviper
poor connection as in, not fully seated, right?
Eh...Kinda...

A poor connection causes high resistance. The voltage has to pass through the connection no matter what, so because of
the higher resistance, more current is required to move the voltage. Higher current=more heat. Enough heat and you have a melted terminal.

The poor connection can be a bad crimp on the cable itself (which is common b/c most people don't have access to a tool that will successfully crimp a cable this size) or a poor connection to the lug (i.e. set screw not tightened)

If you want to be sure on your crimp, either use a hex crimper like this:

(keep in mind that dude is like 2' long)

or use a captured terminal/set screw type ring like this:


And if you want to go full overboard, crimp w/ a hex crimper then solder the connector to the cable.
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Originally Posted by DiamondJoeQuimby
Eh...Kinda...

A poor connection causes high resistance. The voltage has to pass through the connection no matter what, so because of
the higher resistance, more current is required to move the voltage. Higher current=more heat. Enough heat and you have a melted terminal.

The poor connection can be a bad crimp on the cable itself (which is common b/c most people don't have access to a tool that will successfully crimp a cable this size) or a poor connection to the lug (i.e. set screw not tightened)

If you want to be sure on your crimp, either use a hex crimper like this:

(keep in mind that dude is like 2' long)

or use a captured terminal/set screw type ring like this:


And if you want to go full overboard, crimp w/ a hex crimper then solder the connector to the cable.

oh... well i was gonna use chisel + 4lb sledge + solder,
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Originally Posted by 4drviper
oh... well i was gonna use chisel + 4lb sledge + solder,
Not sure is serious...

But, if you are, I'd skip the sledge and chisel and just solder the crap out of it.
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Originally Posted by DiamondJoeQuimby
Not sure is serious...

But, if you are, I'd skip the sledge and chisel and just solder the crap out of it.
lmao i guess i'll just drop by at local audio shop and ask for a favor
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FWIW, I do that for people all the time. I get that a guy who need 1 or 2 crimps may not want to buy a $300 crimper.
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Originally Posted by DiamondJoeQuimby
FWIW, I do that for people all the time. I get that a guy who need 1 or 2 crimps may not want to buy a $300 crimper.
i need 8 (big3+1) oh well i'll see how nice they are
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Get a good set of channel locks , good terminals, grow a set and then solder them .


Seriously , i had no problems crimping my terminals at all . I got mine from knu konceptz and they crimped down just fine . Make sure you measure the correct length and that they arent as tight as a banjo string and you should be fine
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