Dissasembled 07 Type S Head Unit
#41
it's me, Alan Rickman.
Originally Posted by rbf351
yes they solder they bulbs down, i've done complete LED's conversions on honda/acura radios, and they are a bitch to do. if you've ever taken apart one of their radios you would know that.
also the interior lights are green not blue. the only blue in these cars are the light around the control knobs, the ambient light, and the gauge cluster.
also the interior lights are green not blue. the only blue in these cars are the light around the control knobs, the ambient light, and the gauge cluster.
My mistake - and might I add that's totally retarded! With the caps they just looked like flat LEDs; but with the cap off you can see the dome in the bulb.
Why the hell are they using those
#42
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Originally Posted by Timmahh
My mistake - and might I add that's totally retarded! With the caps they just looked like flat LEDs; but with the cap off you can see the dome in the bulb.
Why the hell are they using those
Why the hell are they using those
#43
it's me, Alan Rickman.
Yeah but the white LEDs look so much better
Have you thought about doing it on your TL? Hotspots are a pain.. but there are some difused LEDs you can buy that should eliminate it, I did a custom setup on my accord, I roughed up the edges and top w/ a dremel so the light was difused; but I didn't use the right resistor so after about 3 weeks they turned into strobe lights and burned out. I just have bulbs now. I've also seen setups where they flatten the top and paint it so light doesn't make it through.
Very nice job on the conversion in the pic.. Wanna do mine? (... when I get a TL)
psheu.. sorry about changing the thread topic.. you can have it back
Have you thought about doing it on your TL? Hotspots are a pain.. but there are some difused LEDs you can buy that should eliminate it, I did a custom setup on my accord, I roughed up the edges and top w/ a dremel so the light was difused; but I didn't use the right resistor so after about 3 weeks they turned into strobe lights and burned out. I just have bulbs now. I've also seen setups where they flatten the top and paint it so light doesn't make it through.
Very nice job on the conversion in the pic.. Wanna do mine? (... when I get a TL)
psheu.. sorry about changing the thread topic.. you can have it back
#44
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Originally Posted by Timmahh
Yeah but the white LEDs look so much better
Have you thought about doing it on your TL? Hotspots are a pain.. but there are some difused LEDs you can buy that should eliminate it, I did a custom setup on my accord, I roughed up the edges and top w/ a dremel so the light was difused; but I didn't use the right resistor so after about 3 weeks they turned into strobe lights and burned out. I just have bulbs now. I've also seen setups where they flatten the top and paint it so light doesn't make it through.
Very nice job on the conversion in the pic.. Wanna do mine? (... when I get a TL)
psheu.. sorry about changing the thread topic.. you can have it back
Have you thought about doing it on your TL? Hotspots are a pain.. but there are some difused LEDs you can buy that should eliminate it, I did a custom setup on my accord, I roughed up the edges and top w/ a dremel so the light was difused; but I didn't use the right resistor so after about 3 weeks they turned into strobe lights and burned out. I just have bulbs now. I've also seen setups where they flatten the top and paint it so light doesn't make it through.
Very nice job on the conversion in the pic.. Wanna do mine? (... when I get a TL)
psheu.. sorry about changing the thread topic.. you can have it back
i also had the same issue of them turning into strobe lights after a few months.
i might actually do it once the car is out of warranty. but first i need to see how much power is going to each bulb. since the LED's can only take 3.2 volts before they crap out
#45
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Timmahh
Yeah but the white LEDs look so much better
Have you thought about doing it on your TL? Hotspots are a pain.. but there are some difused LEDs you can buy that should eliminate it, I did a custom setup on my accord, I roughed up the edges and top w/ a dremel so the light was difused; but I didn't use the right resistor so after about 3 weeks they turned into strobe lights and burned out. I just have bulbs now. I've also seen setups where they flatten the top and paint it so light doesn't make it through.
Very nice job on the conversion in the pic.. Wanna do mine? (... when I get a TL)
psheu.. sorry about changing the thread topic.. you can have it back
Have you thought about doing it on your TL? Hotspots are a pain.. but there are some difused LEDs you can buy that should eliminate it, I did a custom setup on my accord, I roughed up the edges and top w/ a dremel so the light was difused; but I didn't use the right resistor so after about 3 weeks they turned into strobe lights and burned out. I just have bulbs now. I've also seen setups where they flatten the top and paint it so light doesn't make it through.
Very nice job on the conversion in the pic.. Wanna do mine? (... when I get a TL)
psheu.. sorry about changing the thread topic.. you can have it back
#47
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
Psheu, got any plans for your old TL DVD changer?
#49
Burning Brakes
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Well, here is the semi-final pics. I have successfully transfered all the red background lights to my old unit and the blue lights to the new head unit. I took the temp. picture of my temp. setup. I put the original head unit back till I can finish patching the wires to the new units. when i'm done, I'll have connectors for both units operational. The red light of the type S head unit works but i looked kinda nasty reminded me of the pontiac grand prix.... don't like them at all.... I can't wait to have the new head unit in should be done by tomorrow
#52
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Originally Posted by psheu
no plans so far. prob. sell it for few hundred bucks. don't have any plans for it.... and Goooooo Gators
#53
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by XjoEnX
nicely done! so are the other switches (ac/temp setting, etc) also red from the type-s? if you're not using that either, id gladly pay for them. please let me know about those red bulb condoms too sir! ill pay for it all.
#54
Burning Brakes
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Bad News with pics....:(
well guys here are some more pics of the new head unit after I power it on. FM/AM/XM/HFL all works fine. However, the new DVD changer is not working right (it didn't spin up) and gave me the message of "Extension" and the display on top of the vent gave me a tiny "D-". I plug the original head unit back in and the DVD discs spins up and works fine. does anyone know what that "Extension" message means? is it a busted DVD changer? or is it problem in my wireing?
#55
Senior Moderator
just as a heads up for the new HU:
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/B07-028.PDF
EXT might mean that the disk is not recongnized. Did you try another disk? Also the HU might have thought that it was switched to a external cd changer... Also one other thing might be that the older navi software does not interface with the radio properly. Also did you get a new amp? the old amp does not have some of the new ones, its worth a try.
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/B07-028.PDF
EXT might mean that the disk is not recongnized. Did you try another disk? Also the HU might have thought that it was switched to a external cd changer... Also one other thing might be that the older navi software does not interface with the radio properly. Also did you get a new amp? the old amp does not have some of the new ones, its worth a try.
#56
Senior Moderator
also i am gettign confused by one thing, DVD changer you refer to as the 6 disk cd changer or the dvd unit in the trunk????? Also all i can see is that the new stuff you installed is the screen, clock display and 6 disk changer correct?
#57
Registered User
it's not working because the DVD player in your trunk if not from the 2007, the software for the headunit it loaded through there.
if you had the non-navi model it might work
if you had the non-navi model it might work
#58
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by csmeance
just as a heads up for the new HU:
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/B07-028.PDF
EXT might mean that the disk is not recongnized. Did you try another disk? Also the HU might have thought that it was switched to a external cd changer... Also one other thing might be that the older navi software does not interface with the radio properly. Also did you get a new amp? the old amp does not have some of the new ones, its worth a try.
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/B07-028.PDF
EXT might mean that the disk is not recongnized. Did you try another disk? Also the HU might have thought that it was switched to a external cd changer... Also one other thing might be that the older navi software does not interface with the radio properly. Also did you get a new amp? the old amp does not have some of the new ones, its worth a try.
#59
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by csmeance
also i am gettign confused by one thing, DVD changer you refer to as the 6 disk cd changer or the dvd unit in the trunk????? Also all i can see is that the new stuff you installed is the screen, clock display and 6 disk changer correct?
- Both of the screens original and new one work flawlessly in my car.
- the only thing I have problem with is the HU's DVD changer unit not working. and gave me the "Extension" message. after I put the original HU, the DVD changer works fine.
- I don't have any trunk mounted cd/dvd changer.
- I do have the original dvd navi unit in the trunk.
when I say original I meant the equipment that came standard in the 04-06 TL w/ navi
#60
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by rbf351
it's not working because the DVD player in your trunk if not from the 2007, the software for the headunit it loaded through there.
if you had the non-navi model it might work
if you had the non-navi model it might work
on a side note, up to now, i still don't have any idea how to remove the clock/temp display unit w/ the vent. I took the car to the dealer and asked them to remove the trim and the clock/vent unit. I can take apart the rest. do you have any instruction on how to remove that portion? and also the schematic for the auxillary jack pins. thanx again for helping me. I know you've been there since the start. I couldn't have come this far w/o you help. thanx...
#61
Registered User
Originally Posted by psheu
on a side note, up to now, i still don't have any idea how to remove the clock/temp display unit w/ the vent. I took the car to the dealer and asked them to remove the trim and the clock/vent unit. I can take apart the rest. do you have any instruction on how to remove that portion? and also the schematic for the auxillary jack pins. thanx again for helping me. I know you've been there since the start. I couldn't have come this far w/o you help. thanx...
after that there are 2 or 4 screws that hold the display to the vents
as for the schematics for the Aux connector, it should be the following
5 pin connector (same harness used old honda/acura cruise control harness)
Pin 1 - Aux detection
Pin 2 - ground
Pin 3 - Signal ground
Pin 4 - Left signal
Pin 5 - Right signal
#62
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by rbf351
you just pull on it, it's only held in by a few clips. when it's pops out, you need to remove 2 harnesses, one for the hazard switch, other is for the display
after that there are 2 or 4 screws that hold the display to the vents
as for the schematics for the Aux connector, it should be the following
5 pin connector (same harness used old honda/acura cruise control harness)
Pin 1 - Aux detection
Pin 2 - ground
Pin 3 - Signal ground
Pin 4 - Left signal
Pin 5 - Right signal
after that there are 2 or 4 screws that hold the display to the vents
as for the schematics for the Aux connector, it should be the following
5 pin connector (same harness used old honda/acura cruise control harness)
Pin 1 - Aux detection
Pin 2 - ground
Pin 3 - Signal ground
Pin 4 - Left signal
Pin 5 - Right signal
pin 30 GRY (AUX SH GND)
pin 31 YEL (AUX L)
pin 32 BRN (AUX S GND)
pin 33 BLU (AUX R)
pin 34 BLU (AUX GND)
pin 35 WHT (AUX DET)
is the AUX SH GND same as AUX GND and AUX S GND? and which one is pin 1 when i have the clip on top?
#63
Registered User
Originally Posted by psheu
On the end that goes into the HU, there are 6 wires:
pin 30 GRY (AUX SH GND)
pin 31 YEL (AUX L)
pin 32 BRN (AUX S GND)
pin 33 BLU (AUX R)
pin 34 BLU (AUX GND)
pin 35 WHT (AUX DET)
is the AUX SH GND same as AUX GND and AUX S GND? and which one is pin 1 when i have the clip on top?
pin 30 GRY (AUX SH GND)
pin 31 YEL (AUX L)
pin 32 BRN (AUX S GND)
pin 33 BLU (AUX R)
pin 34 BLU (AUX GND)
pin 35 WHT (AUX DET)
is the AUX SH GND same as AUX GND and AUX S GND? and which one is pin 1 when i have the clip on top?
when the clip is on top pin 1 will be on the left if you are looking into the pin of the harness, and pin 1 would be on the right side of the jack if you are looking at the pins
#65
Burning Brakes
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[QUOTE=rbf351]here is the schematic for the 07's aux jack (same as all honda/acuras) should give you a better idea how it works
Wow.... rbf351, that's awesome.... how did you get the detail schematic on computer of our cars.... doesn't it come in a thick phone book like service manual? where can I get them? as much as I love to mess with my car, I love to have one of this for reference so I won't have to bother you all the time
Now I get it.... the AUX SH GND and AUX S GND goes into the same wire...
Wow.... rbf351, that's awesome.... how did you get the detail schematic on computer of our cars.... doesn't it come in a thick phone book like service manual? where can I get them? as much as I love to mess with my car, I love to have one of this for reference so I won't have to bother you all the time
Now I get it.... the AUX SH GND and AUX S GND goes into the same wire...
#66
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
on a separate note, if I want to buy the new harness for the new 07 head unit and the display unit (not the home made, wire splicing, wire tapping method) what is the part number I need to get? just out of curiosity
and I notice a heat build up on the left hand side of the HU when I was testing the HU unit. but my original unit doesn't heat up at all. can you explain this phenomenon?
and I notice a heat build up on the left hand side of the HU when I was testing the HU unit. but my original unit doesn't heat up at all. can you explain this phenomenon?
#67
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Will missed grounding cause the HU to heat up? the heat up is not that bad at all, it's just mighty warm to the touch...
#68
Registered User
Originally Posted by psheu
Wow.... rbf351, that's awesome.... how did you get the detail schematic on computer of our cars.... doesn't it come in a thick phone book like service manual? where can I get them? as much as I love to mess with my car, I love to have one of this for reference so I won't have to bother you all the time
Now I get it.... the AUX SH GND and AUX S GND goes into the same wire...
also the aux sh and aux s ground wires do not hook to each other.
the aux s ground goes to the fro mthe headunit to the jack, and the aux sh wraps around all of the cables, and only connect to the headunit.
#70
Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by rbf351
i have my ways of getting programs but that one is called alldata. honda and acura schematics are on one 9 gig DVD
also the aux sh and aux s ground wires do not hook to each other.
the aux s ground goes to the fro mthe headunit to the jack, and the aux sh wraps around all of the cables, and only connect to the headunit.
also the aux sh and aux s ground wires do not hook to each other.
the aux s ground goes to the fro mthe headunit to the jack, and the aux sh wraps around all of the cables, and only connect to the headunit.
and where can I purchase this 9 gig DVD of TL bible?
Is there a way to find out what harness is needed if I want to do the 07 HU upgrade? the dealer showed me the harness for the dash board and it cost ~$600 for wires
#71
Senior Moderator
psheu, is it possible to buy those LED covers from somewhere???
#72
Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by csmeance
psheu, is it possible to buy those LED covers from somewhere???
#73
Registered User
Originally Posted by psheu
I see... when I was hooking up one of the wire, i was wondering why the wire was stripped and wrapped around alum. foil No matter now, I'll need to rewire the audio connector again after I get my 07 DVD navi unit.
and where can I purchase this 9 gig DVD of TL bible?
Is there a way to find out what harness is needed if I want to do the 07 HU upgrade? the dealer showed me the harness for the dash board and it cost ~$600 for wires
and where can I purchase this 9 gig DVD of TL bible?
Is there a way to find out what harness is needed if I want to do the 07 HU upgrade? the dealer showed me the harness for the dash board and it cost ~$600 for wires
unless you can get a junkyard car a new harness will cost you wahtever the dealer quoted you
#74
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by rbf351
i'm guessing you can get the program via torrents...
unless you can get a junkyard car a new harness will cost you wahtever the dealer quoted you
unless you can get a junkyard car a new harness will cost you wahtever the dealer quoted you
#76
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by rbf351
looks like you need this harness 32117-SEP-A23 which is 522 bucks
#77
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Originally Posted by psheu
wow.... that's the main cabin harness.... is it difficult to replace harness?
#78
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by rbf351
nothing is difficult, but you need to take the entire front of the car apart
#80
Team Anthracite
i am thinking, technically, the Radio should work without interfacing with the navi... see if you can disconnect the data signals to and from navi.. Mp3 might work.