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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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Anyone with Viper VX791 ....question about trunk release

When your car is armed and you hit the trunk release, does the car disarm and pop the trunk? Or does the trunk pop and your alarm goes off?
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Trunk pops and alarm goes off
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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Trunk pops and alarm goes off
wtf.....this doesn't seem normal....
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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^ yeah i thought it to be weird too.

another thing i found, for me anyway, is if i remote start when my cars armed it'll set it off, which is understandable.

ive grown used to it
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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^ yeah i thought it to be weird too.

another thing i found, for me anyway, is if i remote start when my cars armed it'll set it off, which is understandable.

ive grown used to it
mine doesn't do that......

factory or viper alarm goes off?
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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If installed properly then neither the factory or the viper alarm will go off. Mine works great!
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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If installed properly then neither the factory or the viper alarm will go off. Mine works great!
i take it you didn't install yours.....i was hoping to get some insight of why mine goes off....
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Mine just pops the trunk, the alarm doesn't go off. but if you slam the trunk when you close it, it will set of the alarm. It never happens to me though.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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i have a little problem though with mine, when i first put it on it would randomly lower the windows about an inch when i would unlock the doors. After i took it back the 6th Ave the installer changed the setting and said he had it before that the remote would send two pulses to the alarm and that is why i would randomly open the windows. Now sometimes the unlock button disarms the alarm but it randamly doesn't open the doors. Does anyone have this problem or does anyone know how the fix it?
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Fermin3344
Mine just pops the trunk, the alarm doesn't go off. but if you slam the trunk when you close it, it will set of the alarm. It never happens to me though.

yeah thats what happens to me. the vibration sets the alarm off. i've narrowed this down the fact my sensitivity is jacked up really high. i remember now.

when parking enforcement lifts my windshiled wiper to put a ticket under it and lets go it lets off the warning tones.

im positive this is why remote start sets it off.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:36 AM
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When your car is armed and you hit the trunk release, does the car disarm and pop the trunk? Or does the trunk pop and your alarm goes off?
What are you tying the trunk release to? Did you use a Databus module, or wire directly to the car?

Mine does not set off the alarm when I pop the trunk, nor does the remote start set it off. I would guess that maybe the shock sensor is set too sensitive.


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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by streese
What are you tying the trunk release to? Did you use a Databus module, or wire directly to the car?

Mine does not set off the alarm when I pop the trunk, nor does the remote start set it off. I would guess that maybe the shock sensor is set too sensitive.


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the input shows trunk input zone...... the bypasskit xk510, i'm using that to pop the trunk
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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the input shows trunk input zone...... the bypasskit xk510, i'm using that to pop the trunk
I'm guessing that your sensitivity might be set too high on your shock sensor. I pop my trunk, start my car, no problems.

Good luck!

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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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I'm guessing that your sensitivity might be set too high on your shock sensor. I pop my trunk, start my car, no problems.

Good luck!

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the shock sensor isn't the sensor going off, its the trunk one
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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the shock sensor isn't the sensor going off, its the trunk one

I just re-read your post. Maybe a faulty databus controller? The trunk should pop without setting the alarm off. You might check the alarm settings as well.

Here's the manual.

I hope that helps......

Also, when you pop the trunk, how do you do it from your controller? Are you holding down the aux button?


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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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Is this a alarm you installed yourself or did you have it installed?

OK, let me answer a few question for yall, being a profesional installer I can tell you what is going on.

1). The trunk, If you have wired up the trunk trigger for the alarm and are doing the trunk pop, then it will go off. Viper does not dissarm the alarm for trunk pop.

2). The remote start, it is more then likly your factory alarm that is going off. What you need to do is hook up the factory disarm wire from the alarm to the car. This will eliminate the alarm going off. The Viper automaticly turns off the shock sensor when you remote start it, that way it won't go off.


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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by streese
I just re-read your post. Maybe a faulty databus controller? The trunk should pop without setting the alarm off. You might check the alarm settings as well.

Here's the manual.

I hope that helps......

Also, when you pop the trunk, how do you do it from your controller? Are you holding down the aux button?


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i doubt its a faulty databus controller, cause its the viper alarm going off....
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Is this a alarm you installed yourself or did you have it installed?

OK, let me answer a few question for yall, being a profesional installer I can tell you what is going on.

1). The trunk, If you have wired up the trunk trigger for the alarm and are doing the trunk pop, then it will go off. Viper does not dissarm the alarm for trunk pop.

2). The remote start, it is more then likly your factory alarm that is going off. What you need to do is hook up the factory disarm wire from the alarm to the car. This will eliminate the alarm going off. The Viper automaticly turns off the shock sensor when you remote start it, that way it won't go off.
Jason

I installed it myself, this is probably my 20th install.
1) yes the trunk input is setup but i thought it would disarm the whole alarm... my compustar did this.... If i didn't have the trunk input setup the shocksensor would go off when i closed the trunk.

2) the remote start works fine with no alarm going off and no problems.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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i talked to DEI, they actually said its normal and you have to disarm the alarm before popping the trunk with the remote....
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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^ so is that true with the remote start too? thx for the info
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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I'm thinking that the reason they do this is that the trunk popping channel could potentially be used for something else. But it is a bit of a pain. If it's any reassurance, I have the 791XV in my car, and I couldn't answer your question because I couldn't remember how it worked. Since I do have to unlock before popping, I guess it's really not much of a pain in the ass... otherwise, I would have remembered.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BrandonClaps
i take it you didn't install yours.....i was hoping to get some insight of why mine goes off....
my friend did it
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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i talked to DEI, they actually said its normal and you have to disarm the alarm before popping the trunk with the remote....
That's interesting, because mine does not.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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That's interesting, because mine does not.
does your alarm go off if you pop your trunk with the button inside your car? if so....no one hooked up your trunk trigger
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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does your alarm go off if you pop your trunk with the button inside your car? if so....no one hooked up your trunk trigger
I don't know. I'll try that.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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1). The trunk, If you have wired up the trunk trigger for the alarm and are doing the trunk pop, then it will go off. Viper does not dissarm the alarm for trunk pop.


Jason
I dont mean to sound like an asshole but you are wrong. A viper alarm installed correctly will shut off trunk trigger when using the trunk pop button on the viper alarm. With trunk trigger automatically shut off, the alarm will not go off.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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Yall with the remote start - what kind do you have? Do you like it? Any problems with it? How much did yall pay? Does is void out the Acura "alarm"? Please help. Thanks so much!

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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by gmfreed
I dont mean to sound like an asshole but you are wrong. A viper alarm installed correctly will shut off trunk trigger when using the trunk pop button on the viper alarm. With trunk trigger automatically shut off, the alarm will not go off.
thats not what DEI said..... and that would be stupid to bypass the trunk trigger and still have the shock sensor on
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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thats not what DEI said..... and that would be stupid to bypass the trunk trigger and still have the shock sensor on
I checked with my installer, and DEI. They both said the same thing. When I hit my trunk release, the number two flashes on my remote, signaling that zone two is disabled. The rest of the alarm is still functional.

Why would it be stupid to bypass the trunk trigger and still have the shock sensor on? If popping the trunk sets the alarm off, then your shock sensor is set WAYYYYY too sensitive.


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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by streese
I checked with my installer, and DEI. They both said the same thing. When I hit my trunk release, the number two flashes on my remote, signaling that zone two is disabled. The rest of the alarm is still functional.

Why would it be stupid to bypass the trunk trigger and still have the shock sensor on? If popping the trunk sets the alarm off, then your shock sensor is set WAYYYYY too sensitive.


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because when u slam the trunk down it will set it off... or at least should....

i don't know why they told me that and told you that?? i wish i could talk to someone that would tell me how its supposed to be grar
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gmfreed
I dont mean to sound like an asshole but you are wrong. A viper alarm installed correctly will shut off trunk trigger when using the trunk pop button on the viper alarm. With trunk trigger automatically shut off, the alarm will not go off.
NO!! it doesn't. The input on the alarm used for trunk trigger is a instant trigger. All it does is monitor the input, it does not shut off when you pop the trunk. When it sees the wire go to ground, it sets the alarm off, plain and simple. If there is a interface box that is used between the car and the alarm then that is different. The interface is what is actually controlling the output to the alarm. So the interface sees that you are poping the trunk and does not send a groud pulse out to the instant trigger on the alarm. I have done quite a few alarms(DEI, which includes Viper, Hornet, Rattler, Phyton as well as other brands such as Code Alarm, Clifford and Audiovox. Just to name a few). SO I think I have a pretty good understanding of how the alarm works as well as the wiring that goes along with it.

So as you stated, not to sound like a asshole, but how many have you installed???

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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by streese
I checked with my installer, and DEI. They both said the same thing. When I hit my trunk release, the number two flashes on my remote, signaling that zone two is disabled. The rest of the alarm is still functional.

Why would it be stupid to bypass the trunk trigger and still have the shock sensor on? If popping the trunk sets the alarm off, then your shock sensor is set WAYYYYY too sensitive.


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i spoke to a 2nd dei tech and he said this is true..... it shuts off trunk sensor and shock sensor until the trunk sensor goes away (trunk is closed)

who has actually installed there own alarm on there TL? Does the trunk input show a full ground or a ground with some resistance?
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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on my blue/yellow striped wire in the green plug above the kick panel (trunk trigger) it shows .7V when the trunk is open and doesn't show a full ground.........where can i get a full ground for when the trunk is open?!
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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i found the issue.....

Anyone install an alarm in there TL and grabbed all 4 of the door triggers and diode isolated them? If so where exactly are the wires???
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I diode isolated. They are all in a bundle of wires running along the driver's side up to the fuse box. But there are bypasskits that get a door trigger off the databus. I have one, but haven't installed it yet.
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I diode isolated. They are all in a bundle of wires running along the driver's side up to the fuse box. But there are bypasskits that get a door trigger off the databus. I have one, but haven't installed it yet.
zax123 do you have aim???

so they are in the running board?

the bypass kit grabs the dome light not the door pins.....so when the trunk gets popped it shows that the doors and trunk are open which is causing my problem..... that and that the trunk pin wire doesn't show complete ground up at the fuse box you have to grab it at the actual trunk switch!
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NO!! it doesn't. The input on the alarm used for trunk trigger is a instant trigger. All it does is monitor the input, it does not shut off when you pop the trunk. When it sees the wire go to ground, it sets the alarm off, plain and simple. If there is a interface box that is used between the car and the alarm then that is different. The interface is what is actually controlling the output to the alarm. So the interface sees that you are poping the trunk and does not send a groud pulse out to the instant trigger on the alarm. I have done quite a few alarms(DEI, which includes Viper, Hornet, Rattler, Phyton as well as other brands such as Code Alarm, Clifford and Audiovox. Just to name a few). SO I think I have a pretty good understanding of how the alarm works as well as the wiring that goes along with it.

So as you stated, not to sound like a asshole, but how many have you installed???

Jason
I was an installer from 99 to 03, I have installed plenty of alarms and remotestarts. I have never used an interface box to prevent any alarm from going off with the trunk pop. The alarms take care of that themselves. This was confirmed by DEI as stated in Brandons post #32
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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as the 2nd DEI Tech stated...when popping the trunk it bypasses the trunk trigger and the shock sensor until the trunk trigger doesn't see ground... (you close the trunk)
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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So as you stated, not to sound like a asshole.
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I hate to tell you, but its too late......

And apparently, you're wrong to boot. Maybe next time you can join the discussion we are having, instead of demonstrating your superiority.


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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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zax123 your my only hope now!
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