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I previously installed angel eyes on my 05 headlights and wired them up using a Honda Accord fog light switch. However, I’m working on a set of 07-08 headlights and will be retrofitting some Honda Inspire fog lights as well. As such, I will be using the fog light switch for the actual fog lights now and need an alternative.
I am looking at the following angel eye wiring harnesses:
For reference, I would like the new angel eyes to act as daytime running lights (but do not turn off when the headlights turn on). I am planning to wire the “signal” wire from the relay to the wiper motor. This will turn the angel eyes on when the car is in the accessory position. I did purchase a Directed Electronics Inc 528T 12v Accessory Pulse Timer which I plan to wire to this signal wire as well. My goal here is to slightly delay the angel eyes from turning on (maybe 20 seconds?) to avoid flickering when turning the ignition on. I’m trying to salvage as much life out of my angel eyes as I can and I know that flickering can potentially decrease the lifespan of the LEDs inside the angel eye housing.
I also see that the aforementioned wiring harness includes a footwell trigger wire too. My understanding is that this will fade the angel eyes on/off when I push the lock/unlock button on my key fob. I think this is kind of a cool feature that I never really thought of. I am okay with not having a delay here.
Let me know your thoughts on this and if you think my plan of attack will work. I could very well be missing something critical too, so feel free to share your thoughts.
The wiper motor wire (green wire in engine bay harness by brake fluid reservoir) provides you with power as soon as your car is on. You can install your timer delay coming from the green wiper motor wire to the relay. I would use a diode pointing to the relay, just in case.
The "fading" trigger wire will go to your dome supervision wire behind the fuse box.
I know you did a great write up in the past for Footwell LED wiring and referenced the below link, so maybe you can help. To get the fading feature, would I be tapping into the dome Supervision wire (green/red - green 5 pin plug), which is behind the fuse box? If so, do you think you could point me in the right direction as to where the wire is located?
"Below is the location of the 5 pin connector...
Connector faces up, so the pin you have to press to release is facing up, push on it and pull it out, the 5 pin connectors doesnt have much wire to play around with so might be hard to splice into, but take your time and it will work.
Here is the picture of kick panel taken off and exposed fuse box.. the pin is located behind this fuse box, upper right corner..
5 pin plug located here, behind this grey relay, reach with your hand and the first pin you feel closer to top is the one, push on the release pin and pull it out"
Okay, so it's been a little while, but I'm making progress and need to figure out this wiring scheme. The 528T pulse timer is very confusing lol. Maybe someone can help me out. I did happen to find an old and somewhat useful thread here on Acurazine as well (See posts #75 and #76). Here is my tentative setup, but I"m not sure if this is correct or not : https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...-813379/page2/
Your diagram is correct, going off of the 2 posts you referenced. The fading should work also, but I can't say for sure without knowing how their angel eyes harness is wired.
If the fading works, GREAT! If it doesn't, no big deal. Just wire the two wires to the trigger pin on the relay using diodes and it'll work.
I'm 95% sure everything will work the first time though.
Last edited by guitarplayer16; 06-12-2018 at 12:19 PM.
Alright, so I finally have everything installed! The angel eyes work and the pulse timer is set for about 9-10 seconds. That part works flawlessly. Unfortunately, the fading feature isn't working. I wired the fading wire to the dome supervision wire, but that doesn't seem to be the solution.
guitarplayer16, were you trying to say that if the fading feature isn't working, I should take the white wire (that's already connected to the red/green dome supervision wire) and splice it into the other trigger on the relay?
I just disconnected the white (fading) wire from its trigger on the relay and tapped into the other trigger on the relay where the red wire is connected. That didn't work.
I then tried disconnecting the red wire from the relay and left the white wire connected to where the red wire normally is connected . That didn't work either.
I checked continuity all the way from the relay to the dome supervision wire. Everything is connected.
Update - My wife recently noticed that when I first turn my key to the ACC position, the angel eyes will flicker for about 1/10 of a second. Then after about 8 seconds they will turn on (and stay on) as they should due to the the timer delay. I haven't installed diodes from the green wiper wire to the RED and YELLOW wires on the 528T. Could that be the cause of that tiny flicker?
Additionally, any thoughts as to why the RED/GREEN dome supervision wire isn't providing a signal to the relay to turn on the angel eyes with my dome lights? I know that the Red/Green wire is negative and used commonly with foot wells to get the fading feature. Would i potentially need to tap into a positive dome light wire in order to get the proper signal? If so, I would think I could say goodbye to the fading. Hmmm...
I have the WHITE fading wire disconnected right now, and it's not the end of the world. But everything is wired in, so it would be cool if I could get this to work.
I'm bumping this thread, because I just realized that I never perfected this installation. Does anyone have any thoughts, regarding my latest two questions? It's bugging me all over again.
I have a 2005 Acura TL and installed a set of 2007-08 headlights, so the drl is actually my fog light switch. Therefore, it does not turn on unless I manually turn it on.
The angel eyes wiring will be the same. However, if you have an 07-08, then you will have the DRL on as well, making the angel eyes harder to see. You would need to find a way to turn the DRL off.
There should be a little dial on the device that you can turn easily with a flat head screwdriver. Once wired up, please let me know your results to see if the pulse timer truly works properly. I wasn't able to remove the initial flash. I also haven't messed with it in about 6 months because my TL is in storage.
Sooo i got them wired and ive notice that they do flash once key is turned to ACC then once car is fully turned on then 30 seconds pass then they turn on
Originally Posted by wusty23jd
There should be a little dial on the device that you can turn easily with a flat head screwdriver. Once wired up, please let me know your results to see if the pulse timer truly works properly. I wasn't able to remove the initial flash. I also haven't messed with it in about 6 months because my TL is in storage.
Dude, isn't it weird that there is an immediate flash once the key is turned? I'm glad to har that it's not just me. What ACC wire did you tap into? Did you also use the windshield wiper wire?
Yes it very weird alittle concerning though lol but any way instead of tapping in the windshield wiper wire i ran a wire through the firewall and then used a 12v add a fuse and connected it to the fusebox Fuse(32) by the hood latch. I didnt know how to use quick connects
Originally Posted by wusty23jd
Dude, isn't it weird that there is an immediate flash once the key is turned? I'm glad to har that it's not just me. What ACC wire did you tap into? Did you also use the windshield wiper wire?
I think I wrote that before, but that's just how this timer works and you won't be able to do anything to fix it without modifying the timer.
Simply, you wire the halos to "normally closed" output. The power up sequence looks like:
1. Power received, timer is turning ON, halos are turned on (because of normally closed relay)
2. Timer is turned ON, it energizes the relay's coil, relay turns OFF power to the halos
3. Some time later, timer expires, and turns relay OFF again, giving power to the halos.
That flash is the time required for the timer IC to power on, and relay to switch the state.