ZKW-R question
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ZKW-R question
Just have some questions for people with the zkw-r lens swap. i put the zkw-r lens on my TL and i really like the output, however the only thing is, when it gets past like 50 feet, the cutoff is pretty blurry. right around ~25 feet its sharp like a knife and color is great. Basically when I was pushing the cutoff shield back and forth, my wall was about 25 feet away so I did it so the cutoff is really good at 25 feet. should i have done it with a farther distance? or are the lenses just inherently like that?
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however i do like the 25' sharpness for one reason. since 25' is still close enough for your eyes to see clearly, when i pull up to a wall to park, the cutoff looks amazing. however if the sharpness was only good at 100', people cant see clearly at that distance anyways.
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True, but the only thing I'd worry about is does the color loose it's intensity at the further distances? I like the bling factor of having a nice thick colorful cutoff for oncoming drivers to see, not just the color of my HID bulbs.
For example (not my car)
Are you taking the projector out of the holder or just leaving them inside the headlight when you do your testing?
For example (not my car)
Are you taking the projector out of the holder or just leaving them inside the headlight when you do your testing?
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#5
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I have done a ZKW-R swap on two previous TL's of mine. A 07 base and a 07 Type S. I found that with the ZKW-R you actually have to fine tune them. With that I mean they have to be rotated and spaced!! Some people out there say you do not have to do this with the replicas but I am saying for 100% sure that I certainly did and I have experience with multiple sets on multiple cars. It took a lot of time to get perfect but what you have to do is rotate the lens until you get a consistant cutoff between the two sides (if simply put in place I found the left and right side were different in output). Then the spacer is what made the output sharper I used a cereal box ring that I cutout and it gave me a very nice super sharp cutoff even very far down the road.
So to sum it up simply putting in ZKW-R's without adjsting and fine tuning will yield you minimal improvements over stock. They need to be rotated and spaced to get the best results. This is from my experience atleast.
Hope this helps.
James
So to sum it up simply putting in ZKW-R's without adjsting and fine tuning will yield you minimal improvements over stock. They need to be rotated and spaced to get the best results. This is from my experience atleast.
Hope this helps.
James
#6
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I have done a ZKW-R swap on two previous TL's of mine. A 07 base and a 07 Type S. I found that with the ZKW-R you actually have to fine tune them. With that I mean they have to be rotated and spaced!! Some people out there say you do not have to do this with the replicas but I am saying for 100% sure that I certainly did and I have experience with multiple sets on multiple cars. It took a lot of time to get perfect but what you have to do is rotate the lens until you get a consistant cutoff between the two sides (if simply put in place I found the left and right side were different in output). Then the spacer is what made the output sharper I used a cereal box ring that I cutout and it gave me a very nice super sharp cutoff even very far down the road.
So to sum it up simply putting in ZKW-R's without adjsting and fine tuning will yield you minimal improvements over stock. They need to be rotated and spaced to get the best results. This is from my experience atleast.
Hope this helps.
James
So to sum it up simply putting in ZKW-R's without adjsting and fine tuning will yield you minimal improvements over stock. They need to be rotated and spaced to get the best results. This is from my experience atleast.
Hope this helps.
James
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That may have been an issue. This past weekend I did mess around with the shield of a friends headlights I've done. Just to see if it's a shield issue, what you can do is point the projector at the wall from a good distance, and push the shield foreword a little by pushing wjere the shield comes down by the solenoid. Just do a little at a time just to see if you actually have to bend the shield.
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Well the problem is I think there are variations in the actual lens on these replica ones thats why people are getting different results on each side sometimes. I remember when I did mine I would rotate the lens as it sat on the holder and sure enough the cutoff and light would focus different as you went around. The replicas are obviously cheaper so there is going to be production variations and whatever, but like I said after all the tweaking I was able to get mine consistant between both sides and pretty sharp with nice color. I broke a tab as well though they are VERY tight to get snapped shut once the replicas are in place.
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True, but the only thing I'd worry about is does the color loose it's intensity at the further distances? I like the bling factor of having a nice thick colorful cutoff for oncoming drivers to see, not just the color of my HID bulbs.
For example (not my car)
Are you taking the projector out of the holder or just leaving them inside the headlight when you do your testing?
For example (not my car)
Are you taking the projector out of the holder or just leaving them inside the headlight when you do your testing?
that pic looks great, but hows the cutoff at, say 25'?
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i might take out my headlights this weekend to try to adjust the cutoff shield a bit better. maybe i'll try to find a spot of around 50 feet cuz i think 100 ft might be too much. btw you know you guys dont need to open the headlight to adjust the shield because you can remove the bulb and stick a long screwdriver or something and push on the cutoff shield. some may think it sounds dangerous but as long as you be careful, it will work just fine.
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Yeah I know about the screwdriver through the bulb holder, I'd just be careful because it's going to be trial and error from lens roation, lens spacing, and shield bending. If you bend the shield to much you tend to get the bowing effect of the cutoff shield which means the side will start to slant downwards.
I've used distances from 15' (definitely wouldn't recommend but it's all I had to work with) the norm for me is in my driveway 25'-40'.
I've used distances from 15' (definitely wouldn't recommend but it's all I had to work with) the norm for me is in my driveway 25'-40'.
#13
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I never noticed any differences in distance so I just used something really far away. For example the night I was doing my "fine tuning" of the lenses I used the peoples garage door across the street. Im not sure how far that is but I figured as long as it was focused that far that it would be perfect anywhere inbetween as well....and it was.
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i just played with my cutoff shield last night...omg the difference is amazing....it stays sharp as far as i can see into the distance. from about 0-5 feet its pretty blurry, 5-10 feet its about average cutoff, then from 10 feet and on it just gets better and better. muwahahahahahaha!
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Dman sweet son! Hey just curious can you give us details on exactly what you did to the cutoff to achieve that? Like which way did you push it and how much..I know it would be hard to say that since its trial and error but atleats some description would be nice.
Thanks,
james
Thanks,
james
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it really only is trial and error. push the cutoff shield back and forth with VERY slight increments at a time. when i say slight i really mean it, even 1 mm can affect the cutoff a lot. keep trying until you get desired results.
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