I know tl type s are not that special... But can I ask for more if I have a 6 sod type s? I think those are more rare right? Thanks

 

I dont think a 6speed would cost more, msrp was the same for both i believe

but if it was in mint condition, then it would definitely be worth more

 

When you could buy them yes. Type S hasn't been made since 08 and of those the 6 speed were by far fewer.
So to answer the OP's question I would say yes you can ask more. If you search here on AZ, the 6 speed Type S is very desirable.

 

When selling yourself yes the 6spd is more desirable to the right person. As already mentioned its because they are hard to come by. Unlike what you said, then Type S is somewhat of a special vehicle to some people. Not your everyday TL, they are unique, and something you don't see all the time. Infact this summer I have seen more Ferrari's around here in Chicago than I have Type S's. And the ones I did see we're most likely not manuals. So the point is, to the right buyer yes a clean manual Type S is worth a bit of a premium to the right person. I know from experience as I have now bought and sold a couple manual Type S's. Now a rare color manual Type S with extremely low mileage would be the ultimate find, but I already swiped that one up :-)

 

^+1. Agreed.

 

more unique than a ferrari!

 

ummm yes.. When I bought mines I wanted a regular tl and my budget was 15k for a used. after test driving the base and the type s.. there is no comparison. also my budget went up 6k.. It was still worth it due to cpo warranty.

its handle and power is night and day. However I didnt care for a 6 speed, but I only seen a couple. One came in for ppi where I used to work and I test drove it.. It did feel quicker than a auto. Maybe different gearing???

 

Night and day.......... Yeah ok

 

Wow, your pretty sensitive in these Type S threads. Why all the sarcasm and anger? I didn't say anything about being more unique than a Ferrari. I said I have seen more Ferrari's this summer than Type S's. It was just a point I used to validate the fact that a car that's as difficult to find as a manual Type S that to the right buyer yes it will have a slight premium.

 

Anger not! Sarcasm for sure! I see type s all the time. Pretty sure more type s's were made in 07-08 than the entire lifetime production of ferrari. I just found the comment entertaining.

 

Mmmk. Not sure what's so entertaining about it when it's the truth, but ok.

 

I agree to the right private buyer a MT may carry a slight premium. On a trade in it will be worth less. I also agree your observation may have been accurate. I just got a chuckle out of seeing unique vehicle and ferrari and type S together

 

Hmmm. I don't have the actual figures in front of me but don't believe the Ferrari production numbers are that far off the 6 speed Type S numbers. :twocents: could be wrong.

 

mmm.. ok base model tl guy.. lol.. :snoobb

well to me it was worth the extra money.

have you compared before you bought?

 

I might be putting my car up for sale sometime soon... 99% stock 6 spd.

Anyways, realistically speaking, much much below/above kbb value can i ask for??

 

I have not driven an 07-08 base but i understand they softened the suspension on those. The 08 S was virtually the same as my 06. I have upgraded swaybar. No night and day difference. Perhaps that difference is more obvious with the softer 07-08 base.

What you can ask for is completely dependent on mileage and condition.

 

You can ask whatever you want, but like poohjm said above, it depends on condition, how many owners, any accident history, body repairs/repaint work, mileage etc etc. so it's hard for us to say. I would say research other similar mileage TL's throughout the country and start there.

 

One random fact I do know, in 10 years Lamborghini only built 3,000 or so Murcielagos.

 

I'll vouch for JTS97Z28, manual tl-s' are super hard to come by in the chicagoland area.

 

Well To me it was the details in the interior, wheels, suspension, and the obvious 30more hp.

sure I can get a base model and spend another 4k on a supercharger and get the same hp.

I actually bought bought mines at a lower price then a couple base models I test drove. Mines came with less miles and warranty.

If 30more hp is not a night and day difference you got high standards.

The tl is no hotrod but for its price range its one of the top performers.

My second choice was a e46 m3.

 

6MT vs automatic is a huge difference; when it comes to Type-S OR base.

There is no denying it. So don't try to.


Yes you can ask for more. You just may have to wait to find an enthusiast. I certainly wouldn't price it less than an equivalent automatic.

 

6Mt command a premium here in So Cal(hell all over )
Ive been looking for 6 speed but have since given up.Dealer/private owners are Hipped to the shortage and are charging almost $4K over BlueBook
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Here's an example
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ice=23000&mmt=[ACURA[TL[]][]]&listingId=352677011&listingIndex=3&Log=0

BlueBook from a dealer is $14,500 ***smh***

 

^ car sold buddy; so link no workie

 

Ok pre-owned Type S guy.

I bought mine brand new. I probably would have gotten the S if it were out at the time. I'm not going to debate if it's worth the premium or not, that has been exhausted and it's personal preference. What I will debate is the performance. I test drove a Type S when they were new to see if I wanted to "upgrade", both the manual and auto. Auto to auto there was almost zero percievable difference. I burned a quarter tank of gas trying to convince myself there was a performance increase. I drove a manual S and yes, there was a difference. I then drove a manual base because I handn't driven one since I was looking at new cars and again, I just couldn't feel a difference. A couple times I thought maybe I felt a difference but if you have to pay attention and try to feel it, is it really worth it?

There are other things that make the Type S desirable but I would put straight line acceleration at the end of the list. The manual base is quicker than the auto Type S.

You call 30hp a night and day difference in a 3,600lb car??? I think you have low standards. 30hp is the minimum hp to where you can begin to feel a seat of the pants improvement. I know I couldn't feel a difference but some can apparently. It's subtle at best. Night and day, no way.

A supercharger puts a base far above a Type S so let's not twist the truth. The supercharged base models put down the same or more hp at the wheels as the S does at the crank. The supercharger IMO is not worth it but that's for another thread.

 

Well sadly its a low produced car so any driving enthusiast who wants a type-s 6MT will get charged more for it.

Check this one out:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb...084131518.html

 

WTH are you talking about? No one is debating the difference between MT and A?

 

I was talking about price. To an enthusiast, typically, MT is worth more whether you're talking about Type-S or 04-06 Base (in terms of Auto vs. 6MT). Not discussing Base 07-08.

You may occasionally find a 6MT priced less than an equivalent auto, but its rare...and I would jump on it. The price difference is the main reason why I bought an automatic base 04 to begin with.


For example my (current) 6MT 08 TLS was listed for $16.5k with 100k miles (not what I paid though). You can find auto TLS's with less miles for less money. There's one with 100k and asking price of 14k right now in my area.

 

Touchy subject, lol, anyway my opinion is yeah you can ask for more, but I wouldn't get crazy. As said, it is only worth what someone is willing to pay...personally I wouldn't pay more for a manual. It may turn out to be a matter of money vs time. Someone who is in love with the manual might be willing to pay a premium if he can't find any others, although you might be waiting a while for said person to come along.

If nothing else, start high and be willing to come down to what others are going for in your area.

 

Since it seems like you guys know your shit, I'm gonna ask a some-what unrelated question:

Is $19,500 a good price for a CBP 08 TL-S with 56,000 miles and clean everything (inside, outside, carfax, wheels, etc.)?

 

thats about what they go for, low miles though

 

There are two types of people that buy a TL, those that want to get from point a to point b and enthusiasts. An enthusiast is more likely to go for the S in the first place so it would probably be easier to get more money for a manual S than a manual base. To the vast majority of TL owners a manual is a negative and there's no way they would get one much less pay more for it. However, an enthusiast probably will and with its rarity if it were me I would charge more for a manual. Not a lot more but more. Since you're now trying to appeal to a much smaller demographic you're probably not going to sell as fast.

 

Maybe my standards of hp is low compared to everyone else. But 30hp is 30hp. I also did not buy this car for general power. I have other high powered toys for that. Personally it suits the bill for me. My daily fun commuter. I don't know why people are arguing about base and type s model. I made my personal comparison in regards to OPs question. OP. you should test drive both and make a decision. Which one Will it put a bigger smile on your face? Them ask is a 6speed worth more?

Back to the op question since this thread is really getting off topic. People pay 1k more for body kits and or wheels they like on the car. Its a preference of what you want and are willing to buy. I don't base vehicles on kbb. I base them on real market value from research in my area. From my research the type s 6mt does fetch for more.

 

No one is arguing here! And thats a good thing you were not interested in power because we are talking about a heavy honda grocery getter. Bottom line is if you have the time to wait for the miniscule % of people looking for a manual TL you may get a few dollars more. But realistically the are very similar in value.

 

Yeah. It is my daily grocery getter. Mostly from the liquor store. :p I know when buying this car I'd leave it stock. No bolt ons. Etc. so its enough power for me to be happy with as a daily driver. However if its a car or a manual 6speed I trully want i wouldn't let a couple thousand deter me. Especially if its hiked up by the market. It does not make it right but it is what it is.

Back then cars were a bit more expensive if it were a automatic. It still is on certain vehicles It depends on the appeal to the masses.

 

RIP just killed it. LOL

Agree 100%.

 

I sold two manual Type S's to the first person that came to see them within one week of listing them online. Both sold for above KBB value. If you live in or around a large city a clean manual Type S will sell very quickly and for a good amount.

 

Thanks man!
I'm going to go check out on weds

 

Don't know where the OP lives, but it sounds like he will have one for sale soon too.