Hey, everyone,

New user here and about to buy a manual six speed, 2006 TL. The 17" wheels are badly curbed and stained and need to be refinished if I'm going to keep them. I'm a big fan of BBS style mesh wheels, so Enkei's 18" Raijin rims caught my eye. However, I'd prefer to minimize torque steer, of course, and am not sure how wider tires and wheels will impact torque steer.

My apologies if this has been endlessly discussed, but I have been researching the hell out of this and have read different opinions here and on other forums.

Lastly, how much do the stock, 17" five spoke wheels weigh? The Raijins in an 8.5" width are 21 lbs.; not bad.

Thanks for any help!

 

I believe the stock wheel weighs like 25-30lbs..
a wider stickier tire will help mitigate torque steer, along with a thicker rear sway bar.

 

Thanks for the quick reply! How does a stiffer/bigger rear bar help with torque steer? I can see how a stiffer spring or shock would help with squat, thereby mitigating any unloading of the front suspension, but I can't figure out how the sway bar would help.

 

you're right, I was just spewing off the top of my head the mods that I did that I thought helped torque steer.
I did lower it.

 

Cool, thanks.

I haven't owned a FWD car in almost thirty years and am driving either RWD or AWD cars now. The torque steer in the car is not ideal, but I can live with it. I'll say that it sure makes driving the car not boring. My GF has a 2013 six speed Honda Accord, and I can't detect any torque steer, possibly because of the lesser power.

What suspension mods did you do to your car? This is supposed to be my winter/rain car so I can keep the other cars off the road; trying to minimize the amount of modding I do to this vehicle. However, I love to drive, so good driving dynamics are important.

 

Was just perusing some threads and saw that it appears that the stock honeycomb wheels are 22 lbs. Not sure about the five spokes I have.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-t.../#post13950203

 

I feel like my 245/45r17 mitigate torque steer, but not by much. It all comes down to your forearms. Surprisingly, torque steer is minimal on the TL vs a lighter car so I barely notice it and I'm always VTECin

 

I don't even notice torque steer in my '05 at all...I may just be used to it, but also the fact that there is so little compared to previous cars. Your GF Accord is a 4 or 6 cylinder? Pretty sure if it is a V6, it has more power than your '06. No matter, if you feel you have excessive torque steer, confirm your alignment and your compliance bushings are all good. Only time mine has ever had issues, my alignment was off.

 

Thanks, all.

GF has a 4 cylinder, not the V6. I should clarify my statement and say that, if there is any torque steer with her car, I don't notice it. Definite power difference.

 

So, here's the thing about torque steer and wider tires; depending upon the road conditions, wider tires will minimize the torque steer on dry warm pavement, however, once things get slippery, especially if the conditions are not consistent from one side of the car to the other, wider tires can actually make torque steer worse. I'm in the same camp as @Jackass , I rarely notice torque steer on my car, however, I have a 6MT model with LSD so that may well mitigate any torque steer noticed in the automatic models.

 

Thanks, horseshoez. Since I have a 6MT, I assume I have the LSD, right? If so, it's a helical model and not one with wearable friction plates, correct?

 

Hey Mark, I haven't looked at an exploded view of our LSD units so I cannot say which implementation, however, I do believe I've seen it described as a "mechanical LSD" so it might be safe to assume it is the helical model.

Regarding torque steer on the 6MT models, the only time I've noticed it is during aggressive acceleration on roads with indented lane ruts (i.e. a slight depression in the lanes where the vehicle tires typically roll), and of course during inclement weather. Once day last winter we were right at freezing and had a lot of rain and sleet; just climbing the hill in front of our farm was pretty sketchy.

 

 

Ossman, thanks. I noticed it on my first drive of an auto TL. I'm fairly cognizant of what a car I'm driving is doing, so I expect I'm always going to be aware of it.