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Old 03-24-2012, 02:56 PM
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Why you should not use cheap or anything higher than 4300k bulbs.

A lot of people have been asking, "Is it ok if I use 6000/8000/etc. bulbs in my TL?"

Let's address the temperature, using anything above 4300k will decrease in lumen which means less light output. Now why would anybody want to do that for?

(Because I like the ricer blue look!)

Alright, your ricer blue look will only reflect on the ground however depending on what angle you're looking at your headlights you will see different colors due to the projector color band, so ricer bulbs don't really do too much for you there and it REALLY doesn't do anything for you in the rain.

Next thing, when you buy 6000/8000k bulbs most likely they're not from a reputable name brand, they're probably a cheaply made bulb from China. The problem with that is you're putting cheap bulbs that can produce more heat and what happens when you put in cheap bulbs that produce more heat? You burn the chrome reflectors inside your projector bowl which will produce hotspots (see attached picture, taken from HIDPlanet). If you insist on using higher temperature bulbs, use an oem brand like Philips/Osram.


tl;dr use 4300k bulbs for the best light output and if you still feel the need to go higher, use an oem brand.
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Old 03-24-2012, 05:13 PM
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I like ricer blue bulbs

Really want the Osram CBIs
Old 03-24-2012, 05:27 PM
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yeah i run the cbi's and they're great, a pure white after a few hours of burn in.. i love them thus far.. here are a few crappy cell pics.. no time for a real photoshoot yet



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Originally Posted by guitarplayer16
I like ricer blue bulbs

Really want the Osram CBIs
Who doesn't? ... I just don't want to spend the money.

I literally just bought some Philips 85122+ a couple of hours ago from theretrofitsource ... and got free shipping from a coupon code I searched for on google. $95 total price


Will1688, mind me asking how much you spent on those, including shipping?
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CBI bulbs >4300k bulbs
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^ Well I guess OP is correct, with the exception of the Osram 66240 CBI's
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Originally Posted by imj0257
Will1688, mind me asking how much you spent on those, including shipping?

I bought these few months ago when hidplanet had a groupbuy, 190 shipped, i think TRS has em for a bit cheaper now? and i know that they're starting to package these here in the US in sylvania silverstar boxes.. but well worth the money to me, i love the look and lights up the road much whiter..
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I know the CBI's are 5K, how much of a difference is there from the stock 4300?
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CBIs are the exception, but they're also Osram (OEM brand).
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Would love to get the CBI's, just too much. I got the Morimoto 35W 5000k instead and love them.
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I'd like to see some output pics from the 5k morimotos, I've been contemplating getting them, just like to see what they look like...
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Originally Posted by wilzrsx
Would love to get the CBI's, just too much. I got the Morimoto 35W 5000k instead and love them.
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Originally Posted by mccollins23
I'd like to see some output pics from the 5k morimotos, I've been contemplating getting them, just like to see what they look like...
Originally Posted by imj0257
i'll take some pics when i'm out tonight
Old 03-24-2012, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wilzrsx
Would love to get the CBI's, just too much. I got the Morimoto 35W 5000k instead and love them.
I bought some too, havent installed them yet though. They got really good reviews so I figured what the hell. Got some ZKW-Rs too from TRS, I think I only spent like $90 total
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im rocking the 6000k morimotos but want the cbis also I just ordered the zkws
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Here are some pics of the Morimoto 35W 5000k

The pics were taken with my iPhone 4S





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Originally Posted by wilzrsx
Would love to get the CBI's, just too much. I got the Morimoto 35W 5000k instead and love them.
Same with me, very good color and I'm still burning them in but everyday I see them getting brighter
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For those who have done it or know how it is done, is the ZKW lens swap easy to do?
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Originally Posted by imj0257
For those who have done it or know how it is done, is the ZKW lens swap easy to do?
I would assume fairly easy but it does require you to take apart your headlight,, something I'm not willing to DIY myself
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I'm not willing either.
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Originally Posted by RainSupreme
I would assume fairly easy but it does require you to take apart your headlight,, something I'm not willing to DIY myself
Yes, you have to take the headlights apart to gain access to the projectors.
Old 03-25-2012, 06:18 PM
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I know that my bulbs were changed out how do I know what k they are?
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8000k ftw. No problems for the last 3 years. That hotspot will happen if you put a 55WAT bulb in the housing....won't happen with a 35WAT bulb. And FYI I can see fine in inclement weather with 8000k.

PS

Last I checked 6k/8k is not considered rice. Its 10k+ where it becomes rice.
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Originally Posted by Aretardedorange
8000k ftw. No problems for the last 3 years. That hotspot will happen if you put a 55WAT bulb in the housing....won't happen with a 35WAT bulb. And FYI I can see fine in inclement weather with 8000k.

PS

Last I checked 6k/8k is not considered rice. Its 10k+ where it becomes rice.
Hotspots will happen with a cheap 35w eBay bulb, I've seen it happen in a tsx retrofit. I ran 50w Philip dl50 bulbs with a 55w digital ballast for 3 years without hotspots in my s2000 retrofit. That's probably the best setup for the tl without losing any lumen, in fact you would gain lumen and a blueish tint. Philip dl50 bulbs + 55w ballast.

I bet I could see better with my 4300k bulbs than your 8000k bulb. There is no argument here, 4300>8000 when it comes to visibility.

As for the rice thing, it's personal opinion, 6000k isn't too bad I suppose but 8000k or above is rice in my book.

But hey, it's your car, do as you please.
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I don't mind 8k on car's with projectors as long as you're not blinding me :\

I'm picking up the Morimotos in 6k soon!
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can someone provide websites that sell these oem quality/specs bulbs. ...osram cbi?
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Originally Posted by abyelrubio
can someone provide websites that sell these oem quality/specs bulbs. ...osram cbi?
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php?cPath=27
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thanks.
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