Originally Posted by I hate cars

Other forums don't mean a thing when it comes to what we use in the TL. I've spent countless hours going over the technical side of this in other threads and I honestly don't feel like doing it all over again. It's out there, just search.

The end result is a non FM fluid cures shudder in the TL, much less create it.
It shows much less wear as is evidenced on the drain plug.
Shift quality is much better than stock.
Shifts are much quicker than stock.
The current turbo TL has never had a trans failure on this fluid while the first turbo TL failed within a day on Z1.

It's all on here and with so many people doing this and all with the same positive results there is no debate. The end results speaks for itself.