thevnct

i was wonderin who would win in a race if it was a 05 tl auto vs an s2k wit intake and xhaust, cuz i hav a friend that thinks he can beat everyone but he never tries to race unless its an is300 or a car he thinks he will beat forsure.

BustedJack

your friend needs to race my friends IS300

and stock for stock you can pull him easily.... you have more TQ but assuming yours is a 6MT too.

Hockeyman

depends what year s2k...

Jrezo

S2ks are fast. Sorry he would beat the 05AT and his got mods.

Good driver could get 14 flat no prob.

05TL would have to have more mods to get close

Eoanou

Yeah the newer S2000 has a 2.2L motor while the older S2000 has a 2.0L motor.

reloaded

how could u tell the difference between the 2.0 and 2.2 S2k by the exterior? i never knew they had diff engines.

thevnct

its a 02 s2k

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

a properly driven stock S2k can beat a properly driven stock 3rd gen TL auto, period. S2k can pull a 14s 1/4mile time. And with his mods...I am sure he will win if he can shift properly.

sbuswell

you WILL lose unless he's a bad driver.

99tlguy

i think the s2k will win due to its weight,i was in my friends 2002 s2k racing against 2005 sc430 and pretty much kept up with it...amazing

johnny--2k

I had an 02 S2000 with intake, heavy 17" wheels, and bald Kumho 720's.

With a 30MPH headwind at the Track, I managed a 14.00 with a 2.0 60 foot. Assuming no wind, I would have been high 13's around 102......

Now, with my 05 TL, 6MT Intake, I have beaten an S2000....the torque is the kicker. If you get a better launch, you can get ahead and stay ahead. The S2000 is a hard car to launch, so he better know how to drive it.

99tlguy

yeah my friend has dual catback exhaust,with some racing chip from japan,and an intake.he lauch it pretty good..

thevnct

i really dont noe cuz i think it might depend on the driver cuz he raced an RX8 and beat it cuz the RX8 did a bad launch, but when we were talkin bout racing an RSX S and the guy wit the s2k said he will lose, and then when the rx8 beats the RS S then he said he can beat an RSX S

johnny--2k

Ok, I did not understand much of that.....

An RX-8 should not even be a challenge for an S2000......it'll get raped. An RSX-S with I/H/E and a Hondata flash will beat an S2000 with light mods (I/E).

S1CK TypeS

i took my buddys 00 S2K he has CAI and headers. i raced him from a 30 roll and from a launch (i dont think he knows how to launch it right). i have a 03 TL-S w/bolt ons

johnny--2k

that sounds right. 30 MPH is a bad place for the S2000. It's too slow for 2nd gear, if you have balls (like me) you could go into first gear.....hehe..... But with the torque you have over him, I am not surprised at that outcome. Now, do a 45MPH roll and see who wins......

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

you will need at least a 6MT TL to hang with a S2k.

S1CK TypeS

i got the balls and thats exactly what i did but mines a 5AT so it wasnt really in my hands

thevnct

wut about if the 05 AT TL do a small roll and the s2k launch, then wut would happen?

DIRTYJOHN

06 will kick ur ass. 00-03 they suck.. since my car has nos.. I can beat 02-03 by 3-5 car depending how much i spray.. on 06 model i know nothing bout 04-05.. I can beat it by 1-3 cars depending how much i spray.. If i spray 100 i can take them by bus.. S2k are fast dont get me wrong but with right mods u can hang with it.

johnny--2k

Haha....yeah, thats just your kickdown in the auto doing its job.......

DIRTYJOHN: 06 is the same as 04-05. 00-03 are actually the better cars IMHO because they are more of the raw sportscar vs the 04 and newer that are softer suspension, VSA on the 06's, yadda yadda yadda....I dont believe any of that should be on a sports car......luxury/sport sedan fine, but not a sports car. You can be faster in your 04-06, but I'll still take an 00-03 any day. Preferably an 02 or 03 because they had the glass rear window......

Besides, N2O puts you in a whole different category......apples and oranges. Race them without the spray and see what happens.....

'03TL-S

iTrader: (10)

what if he don't spray, but does his engine still have some of the N2O in there to make it a little bit faster than a regular engine?

johnny--2k

no, once the spray is off, it's as if he does not have it at all....

O.G.6speed

Yeh, my bro has a 02 s2k with c/a/i. pretty fast. driven properly you can run high 13s. unless ur tl is 6 speeed mt no chance, unless u are highly modded m

O.G.6speed

ur right 00 ton 03 were faster beucase they changed the gear ratio and suspension in the 04 and up

johnny--2k

not to mention the lower redline. Now, the 04 and newer do put down more torque throughout the RPM range, at some points up to 15 ft lbs, but they are rated 8 ft lbs higher than the 00-03.

The 04 is a more civilized car, where as the 00-03 are a bit more raw. Personally, I prefer that and is the only thing I really dont like about my TL. It's too cushy for me. Suspension is next on the list......