Ol Blue Eyes

List if you have an 04 or 05. Only list complaints on parts/pieces that were factory or dealer installed on the 04 or 05. List things that pertain only to your car.

These are mine:
1. Tires(EL42)
2. Butt prints on seats
3. The Guillotine doors


Otherwise, I am pretty happy with my 04 TL.

ndx2

1. tires.
2. body roll.
3. brake dust (6mt)
4. torque steer/understeer

i'm quite content with my car.

aznkikaz

iTrader: (2)

1. tires

t-dogg

1. Rattle on Driver's Door
2. Crappy Ass Stock Tires
3. Not enough aftermarket parts as of current

vp911

1. a-spec kit not fitting correctly
2. navi screen and radio problems
3. slight vibration in steering wheel
4. car is too good looking - wait thats not a problem

abirvalg

1. poor craftsmanship all around!

love the looks and the spirit
hate the way they built it
i wish Lexus was building TLs
what a perfect car would that be!

elsensei

1. Somtimes wish it was rear drive
2. rattle in driver's door
3. Check engine light just turned on at 4k miles (and yes I checked the gas cap

Fast Lavey

1. Dealer would not/could not give me the caps for the front license plate holes.
2. Everything else is way too perfect!

Repecat

OEM Tires

xlilbluux

i wish i had a TL to complain about :P

PPLAPW

04'
1. MP3 CD Player/Aux Input
2. Side skirts scuff easily
3. Hmmmmm Still thinking

Overall I'm glad the way my TL is....

havokgroup

I'm very happy with mines.

goalie99

'05 TL

1- No MP3
2- No mute button on the steering wheel (last car had one, it was nice. I will most likely forget about this once I get a BT phone)
3- Center console storage (under the armrest) is pretty hard for me to reach.

other that that, I'm quite happy.

Wildcat Jon

One problem - vibration - but it happens thousands of times every day.

rochesterTL

Rattles god damn rattles

Acuracy

Extremely happy wih mine except the god damn butt prints. Thats it for me...i love the car

BooyanTL

'04 TL 5AT Navi

1. Tires
2. Rattles - luckily everyone on this site has pin pointed the source...easy fix.

My TL has lived up to all my expectations and the short comings do not effect my driving enjoyment.

Prolanman

Thin Paint.

Otherwise very happy with my TL.

srhewes

1. Butt prints (which I'll get replaced by the dealer just before the base warranty expires).
2. Trying to make the dash above glove box look nice (I use Aerospace 303 upon the
advice of several and have had minimal success).
3. EL42's -- very hard ride with some flatspotting and you don't get the warmest feeling
that you have control on water/rain or snow.
4. Making good use of the large cargo net -- seems too floppy (I'll have to check a thread to
see how otheres have attached it).

Jss1

None in 18 months. One visit to dealer for transmission fix but I don't consider that a problem.

chill_dog

Only problems were heat shield and rattles, which, at least at the moment, have been fixed. Tires are starting to wear a bit (EL42's)...rotating this weekend. Overall, love the car.

srhewes - I attempted to put in the cargo net...never figured it out, got fed up, and stuffed it back into the spare tire compartment...don't feel much loss over this, either...

ncatbagan

1. gluteus maximus prints
2. cargo net, WTF kind of net is that?!? i miss my celica's cargo net
3. NBP has swirl marks easily seen
4. expensive @$$ upgrades!!!!!!!!
5. DEFINITELY the >>>%&^*(#^@&*!$ ing<<< brake dust on 6MT!!!!!

EpiK

No Complaints at all, thankfully. (Knock on wood)

And remember to take this survey with a grain of salt. There are two things to keep in mind here:

#1 - The 3GL TL was third highest rated car for owner satisfaction in the latest Consumer Reports, behind only the Lexus LS400 and the Toyota Prius. We got beat only by one high end luxury car, and one gimmicky hybrid energy box. That's something to be very proud of and definitely played a part in my decision to get a TL. So, while some of you may be thinking the "grass is greener" - there are obviously a lot more people with other cars, including all of the "Luxury" cars thinking "maybe I should have gotten a TL".

#2 - How many of you initially found Acurazine because you had a problem with your car you were looking for a solution for? Possibly a rattle, or butt prints. Whatever your problem, it doesn't matter. If you hadn't had the problem, would you ever have found this place? What I mean is that I am willing to bet a lot of money there is a higher percentage of people on these forums that have problems than there really are as percentage of TL owners as a whole. People with problems look for a place to vent or search for solutions. People without them aren't as likely. So while we definitely appreciate all the people here describing their problems and possible solutions, we do need to realize that they are a very small minority of dissatisfied TL owners as a whole. (And hopefully they can either find a solution here, or get their service departments to correct these issues so they can be as satisfied as the rest of us...)

Rant over I guess. Interesting discussion though, thanks for posting.

PeterUbers

iTrader: (1)

I love this car ... yeah, it's underpowered for MY tastes... yeah, RWD would have been nice, yeah .. rattles rattles rattles... but wow -- when I put in a DVD-A disc .. or when I use Bluetooth w/ my cell, or when I surf through XM ...

It all makes it worth it:

*no complaints here*

bar2v

05 TL w/ NAV (2200 miles)

1. XM sound glitches (otherwise the sound system is phenomenal)
2. Auto Shift from 1->2 on sport shift (automatics only)
3. Randomn Rattles (Passenger Side Door and Overhead Console)

TerminaderTL

It's such a great car and there are so many good features that it's hard to find much to complain about. After 2 months and 1700 miles:

Fixes needed
1 - minor moonroof rattle
2 - minor passenger door panel rattle
3 - re-affix some small portions of the A-Spec front underbody to the bumper

Nice to have
1 - MP3 playback
2 - better paint match between hood, bumper and A-spec front underbody

I still smirk when I see BMWs and Mercedes since I know how much of a better deal I got than they did!!!

mkarg

Hate the EL42 tires although the replacement tires are a bit better than the originals.

Lack of MP3 player

Butt prints

The above notwithstanding, I love my car.

narnia

Not a single complaint and it's over a year old now. I almost feel guilty having a perfect car. I wish everyone with a TL was enjoying theirs as much as I love mine.

Brewmaster

'04 TL .. 10K miles.

Absolutely love this car. My only complaints:

thin paint (too many rock chips, too easy to make swirl marks)
minor tire vibration

PiP

'05 - about 6K miles.

I love the car, and not much to complain about...
1- rattle on left side of dash which doesn't bother me much.
2- i think i've started hearing a rattle from my driver door.

Other than that, good times!

rets

'04 (early build) - 20k

In its 1st yr,

• Paint
• Tires
• Dozens of rattles
• Drivetrain vibration

In its 2nd yr,

• Paint
• Drivetrain vibration
• 4 occasional rattles

Spingrinder

05 - 3k miles

1) Electrical glitch losing XM, BT icon, etc.
2) Rattle Driver's Door
3) Rattle Center Console
4) Rattle Center shift column plastic
5) Rattle Rear Right Console
6) Rattle Passenger front door
7) Rattle sunroof
8) Rattle rear passenger door
9) Glove box often won't stay shut

Wishes:
MP3 direct connection
Sunglasses holder replacement for driver's side "Oh S#!t" handle

Given the reported problems with the current TL I don't think it will stay on the Consumer Report recommended list for long. Glad I didnt' buy mine and can simply turn the rattletrap back in at the end of 3 years.

StuartHDuzan

I have had my Anthracite/Quartz, 2005 Automatic w/NAV since January 28, 2005 with almost 4200 miles. It has been on two long distance trips including a 1600 miles trip from Arizona to California. AZ city mileage (consistently), 22 mpg (lowest city mileage was Fresno,CA @ 19mpg); freeway (CA trip) 30mpg. Trip to Grand Canyon was 29mpg going up and 34mpg comming back to Scottsdale. After car is broken in, hope that the Red Line 5-30wt synthetic will assist in moving my consistent city mileage at least 1 mpg more; as well as the freeway mileage to 32mpg. No rattles or vibrations. Michelin's doing fine job.

The only defect was a loose cargo net anchor located on passenger side, under rear window sill. I fixed it myself. Acura should use threaded sleeves instead of sheet metal screws.

Desired Improvements: Center glove box should allow a full useage of DVD-A's storeage and still be able to plug in cell phone charger cord. Turning radius to too wide for a car this size; cornering at high speed could be improved by lightening up the suspension and improving weight distribution. Would like Direct Fuel Injection to improve mileage by 15%.

Truly THE BEST CAR THAT I HAVE EVER OWNED!! Also the most amount of technology and luxury for today's inflated cost. Keep Up The Outstanding Work, Honda/Acura!

TBone2004

19K miles - 399 Days old


1.) Paint
2.) Dashboard different color than rest of dash and door panels (despite day one 303 and always using a sunshade and garage kept)

Other than that occassional rattle or squeak - but nothing major - except the one coming from driver side window - goes away when window is very slightly lowered - been too lazy to try some silicon spray in there or something.

I Love this car no matter though. Its all good.

Twenties

10,000 miles so far on 05 TL Navi. Zero (0) complaints. Absolutely exceeds expectations.

MR1

Strange, I live in Fresno and also get about 19mpg or less on a regular basis. I wonder if it's the traffic, the gas or just us?

After six months and 7k trouble free miles, my car is in the shop today.
My temp gauge flatlined last week and my HFL phone icon disappeared but HFL still works. Service writer suspected Navi control unit and says he has seen the problem 2-3 times in past month. I don't expect a long term fix at this point.

They offered, and I accepted an 05 non-navi TL for a loaner. It even has a few less miles than mine.

abiller

TL O4 owner, complaints are:
butt prints - is this really covered by warranty?
Knicks in the silver trim by console
tires need to be replaced
lots of rattling in the compartments under stereo
otherwise happy with car

1995hoo

I love the car and have only two minor nits:

1) HFL's speech recognition can be spotty, even when stopped at a light with the climate control shut off. I do not understand why the Navi's speech recognition can be so good (I almost never have a problem with it) and the HFL's can be so inconsistent.

2) Hard to fit the owner's manual in the glove compartment, especially if you also want to stick a couple of DVD-A cases in there.


BTW, does anyone know if you can use a voice command to pause the CD? I know you can hit the button for the disc that is playing, but fumbling around to do that can sometimes be a nuisance (or, like I did this morning, sometimes you hit the button for the wrong disc).

Legend2TL

Suggested improvements

1) Better clutch feel
2) More front seat side bolster support
3) DRL

Other than those I'm very happy with my 2005 6MT Non-Nav

SBTL

Reasonable:
dash and B pillar rattles
a-spec body kit gaps (should be whole new front and rear bumpers rather than skirt add-ons for the price)


Probably Unreasonable:
lack of RWD or AWD
lack of 30 more HP and 50 more torque
lack of mp3 player