PizzaMan

The 98' camaro/firebirds have the LT1 and starting in 2000 they went to the LS1. I prviously owned a 2000 Trans Am WS6 with some mods and it would blow the doors off my 05' TL. Not even close. The LS1 is one of the best motors ever made.

Monte TLS,MAX

98 and up has LS1 my nephew has a 98 T/A with the LS1 in it.

Scribesoft

Just got the October 2005 issue of Motor Trend... They are wrapping up a "Long Term Test" on the '04 TL 5AT (see page 156)... They list the 0-60 as 6.9!! WTF? I have a 2005 6MT and there is no way it's a 7-second car... I'm assuming there's not that much of a difference between the MT and AT??

I also own a '99 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited w/ 4.7 ..... that SUV has a 0-60 of 7.3

Driving the 2 cars one after another (I switch quite a bit), I can attest that there is a HUGE difference between a 7.3 second car and an 3G TL when flooring it from a stop.. I agree that the Jeep is close to 7.3 - 7.5... but the TL is much quicker than that!

What confuses me is how did they pull a 6.9? It's not like they missed a shift in the MT?

ChicagoSteel

Go do your homework first, YOU'RE WRONG.

The Vette got the ls1 in 97, the Camaro/Trans Am got the ls1 in 1998.

cpurick

I would not expect a TL to beat the current V6 Altima. Maybe if the TL has a stick...

Neon SRT-4. Subaru WRX, esp. STi. Lancer Evo.

VW R32 Golf -- I think he'd win off the line; not sure about 50-70 though.

EZZ

The TL is as fast or faster than a V6 Altima. The altima guys do around 14.2 to 14.5 stock (manual) and I've seen those times with the TL. The VW R32 is quick but not as quick as the TL in the top end. I slowly pulled on a R32 with my G coupe and started pulling harder as we gained speed. I'd put my money on a TL in the 1/4th.

Joe5.0

02+ Altima vs. TL/TL-S is a drivers race. If one is a manual and the other is an automatic, advantage goes to the manual as long as the driver is decent. Stock for stock, VQ35 Maxima's & J32 CL/TL's run nearly identical times. On the highway the Acura has the advantage, but from a stop the VQ is hard to match (great tq for a V6).

Basically this thread can be summed up pretty easily. If you have a stock automatic go hunting for anything that runs slower than high 14's, and if you have a 6 speed first learn to drive it well and then go looking for maybe some stock GT's(pre-05), WRX's, and maybe a 3 series or two.

cpurick

Not seeing it on the Altima. The engine's a VQ, which consistently beats the TL in other applications. The Nissan's got comparable horsepower, more torque, and it's got a nearly 300lb curb weight advantage.

I think your experience with the R32 is pretty much as I predicted it.

ericajackhannahjamie?

sorry guys, I apologize for my stupidity. The 1998 Camaros do have LS1 engines, not LT1, as I double checked it with my friend. LT1 was discountinued after 1997 and started with LS1 in 1998.
I believe my car is quicker than any stock Nissan Altima 3.5 V6 because mine is a pretty quick car

Joe5.0

Yeah, well Altima's make more tq & weigh 300 lbs less.





And no 04+ TL's have ran 13's NA yet, lots of Altimas have.

And dont claim that that graph is wrong because it says Maxima. The 02+ Altima & 02/03 Maxima dyno identical to each other, the Maxima was just overrated by about 10hp, but was underrated in tq. Nissan likes to play with their ratings more than any other mfr I know of.

03CoupeV6

The VQ35DE has so much torque. I test drove an 02 Maxima auto and 6spd before buying my 02 TL. I couldn't get used to the feel of the Maxima when I gunned it from a stop. The tires just felt like they were bouncing trying to get traction, but man would it move!

vupac1

BEWARE the

this is a beast on wheels

Meek32v6

iTrader: (7)

Im driving a 03 max SE right now cause my car and the dealer but i put it up against his 00 TL and it put a hurtin on it. Know it only had 225 and the max 255 i still didn't expect it to pull like it did. Even from bad roll when he jump the max would still pull. I got in his TL and couldn't do any better. I'll never sleep on a max again. I didn't think much on them before because my 04 could run with them but I the new TL should take'm

03CoupeV6

I'm willing to bet that at least off the line, even the 02 Maxima can pull on a Gen3 TL. Where's SteVTEC from v6performance.net when you need him.

kensukikatayo

But there was no Type-S for 00 so you're not really comparing like-powered cars, but do you think the VQ35DE would pull on a J32A2? I'd still say so but not by much. It wouldn't be more than half a car length I'm assuming from a dig to 80 or so.

03CoupeV6

Since there was no 6spd J32A2 TL, I'm willing to bet that a 5AT J32A2 will get by a 6MT Maxima SE.

toulene

Who should I stay away from in an '04 TL/A-Spec. Other than the obvious ones. Anyone tried the"new" 'stangs yet? I know the Gt's are outta my league unless I've got road and I'm not limited to 140 like they are. And what the hell am I limited at? I haven't pushed it over 100 mainly because drivers here suck. That from a friend who had an 8 in his and has hit the limiter btw. Don't wanna blow mine or nitrous it, I like to drive it, not get pinned to the seat, though I'm getting used to FWD. I think I read I'm supposed to get 270 bhp but I could be wrong, and is the A-Spec even worth noting? Thanks

mickey3c

How was it that the 3.2 was putting down about 248 torque... ???

Meek32v6

iTrader: (7)

My bad. I meant to say my 04 Accord EXV6 (240hp). I wasn't talkin about my 04 TL

EZZ

This is rediculous. The 04 TL and the G35, Maxima, Altima, BMW 3 series, and any other car in the 6 second race are so close in performance, its whomever drives better that will win. Don't avoid any of these cars...just drive better than them and you will win.

MattB

The Infiniti I35 will be close too....an '04 or newer TL will probably beat it but with 255hp the I35 is close to the TLS.

Joe5.0

Mine put down 206wtq, which if you assume 17% driveline losses than thats 241 crank tq. If it only made the advertised 232 lbft, then the 6 speed CL-S6 would put down like 197wtq, and it consistently puts close to 205wtq stock.

sdaeb02

what about an A4 2.0 turbo? My friend just bought one and swears it could. I looked at the specs and beg to differ....

cpurick

Might do it with a tuner chip. Takes it to about 240hp, but the torque's the killer: 290+ lb-ft. 0-60's been measured under 6 on chipped Quattro cars. (The FWD version's a bit lighter, but the wheels just spin in first gear if the motor's chipped.)

Wid-TL

Watch out for the new Jeep Cherokee with the Hemi...

Anyone from NJ - I take Rt. 33 through Manalapan everyday.

Was sitting at a light next to this thing - my "race picking" days (in cars anyway) are gone, so I wasn't expecting what happened.

He gunned it from the light, I heard the engine and exhaust whaling. After a modest clutch release - then realizing the race was on - I couldn't catch up to him up to 80mph. We played a few more times - and mind you I'm not powershifting or really abusing the car - but he got me by several car lengths every time - increasing the gap as we accelerated.

I used to drive 5.0's (some heavily modded) back in my early 20's, and was confident those cars would take a beating. Maybe I'm subconsciously afraid the TL's stick will break off in my hand when powershifting!!! Took a while to get used to the quick revving VTEC engine too - used to bounce off the rev limiter all the time!

becker800

If your talking about the new Jeep SRT8, it SHOULD beat us. It's like 0-60 in 4.8 or something like that. May be heavier then ours but 420 HP is sufficient enough

That's really a nice vehicle, saw the first one on the road down near Atlantic City this weekend.

blktl1

Yeah unless you are super charged it will be near impossible to take the SRT8. I think it runs a 13.5 1/4 stock. My brother has a 2001 Grand cherokee with the HO and he has intake and exhaust and he runs a 14.1. He used to beat me when we were stock. i could beat him until I had better tires an intake and exhaust.

ohiosux

I wasn't really trying that hard, but some Hyundai Tiburon caught me off guard the other day. After I pulled away from him I backed off, but I was surprised. Someone in a POS or an inferior car could probably smoke you if you don't know how to drive or aren't paying attention. BTW, did anyone speak about the GLI or GTI? I would spec them myself, but I am too lazy...hehe.

FightingTL

He isnt running 14.1 with just intake and exhaust in a HO.

You dont take a 15.3 Jeep down to 14.1 with a last on intake and exhaust.

(Trust me I had a modified GC 5.9 that ran 14.3)

AcurasGhost

I've kept infront of a new G35 coupe with a crucial hottie in it. Man was that a good time ... it was on the freeway (George Washington Parkway around DC to be exact). He drove up next to me and said that I had more balls then him because I was going crazy in and out of traffic.

I also rocked (beat) a 1st gen Lexus IS300. He was no where to be found.

This was all with a stock '06 TL automatic in sport shift mode. But now I'm getting mods shipped in ... so we'll see what else I can mess with ...

We have to remember tho ... our TL's are a luxury car with a sporty feel or touches. So we aren't supposed to be completly tearing the streets up with fast 0-60's and neck breaking quarter miles.

italian_spak

what about altima se-R

limited

All these stories about this beating that on the streets mean nothing. On the track it's a different story, you know on the track both parties are going to actually try and they have the same goal in mind and that is to get to the end of the track as fast as possible. On the streets you dont know what the other person is going to do or if they're even going to give it 100%.

Think about this, I raced my friends 04 325i with my 93 accord lx. I got him by 4 car lengths easily. You know what though, I knew he didn't know how to launch and he wasn't going to floor it. But hey, how many of you guys actually stop and ask the guy you just "smoked" if he tried, if he knows how to launch or where he began to shut it down?

So does that mean any 93 accord can smoke a 325 anyday? No. If we were on a track, then of course he would actually give it his all, because that's why your there.

b827

Have any of you got into it with the new 2.0 GTI? I am planning on getting my 06 6MT this week if they can locate the one I want, and my buddy just got the new GTI...
Just wondered how I would hold up against him?

fan_888

How about 350 Z???
I know C230 K nothing compare to our TL I own 1 and I KNOW...

Agent_911

ya, my cuzin owned a 03 350z, which i believe is like 270hp. Were both AT's and it's mostly bought who's quicker off the start. But he'll usually get 1 car length early on and i'll catch up.

papa_giorgio

Stay away from the WRX. I have a WRX and my wife has the TL, the TL will not come close to the 0-60, and most WRX owners has something done to it. my car looks 100% stock, but under the hood is a electronic boost controller and a catless uppipe.