Saintor

We all know about past Honda Acura being tough.

Now let's be specific about this car, a TL '05-06. Now that we know more about its first 3-4 years, is it looking good for 8-9 yrs / 150000 miles. I know it can do it, but with how much hassles is the real question.

First deception, timing belt and brakes. Some transmissions issues but relatively rare. Weak paint and leather quality.

Will it carry Honda's reputation well?

... for a friend of mine.

LyfeIs

I cant answer that cause I'm the type of guy that cant keep a car for more then 3 years.

03aspec

who even keeps a car for that long?

ChicoOG

I'm at almost 75K w/ 05...runs and looks great. No issues...don't see why she can't make 150k

Kennedy

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Mechanically it'll be fine with proper maintenence... I figure we'll all see issues around the 7 year point with some of the crazy systems. DVD drive, VSA/ABS, etc. PS pumps are known to be weak, and alternators will probably go around the 100K mark...

My 2 cents.

ChucksCL-S

IMO, very little hassle. Keep the fluids clean and do the timing belt at 105K. 300K is not uncommon on lots of Honda Acura products.

blazinginder

my 94 camry = 218k miles / 98 ML320 = 160k miles....the camry's are very solid...but if a first year, first generation mercedes ML can make it....a TL definitely can...just a question of how much it'll cost in repairs ...the ML has been expensive in that sense but the camry not that bad

BLACKURA_NY

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my 92 explorer XLT = 270,000 miles... she was a champ on her original drivetrain

im with kennedy... surely the alternator, maybe a starter, i wouldnt doubt these cars start burning/leaking oil around 150k.... and i also think smaller common things are likely like P.S/ water pump, a/c compressor

PeterUbers

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are you talking about JUST the engine?? or the entire vehicle?

I'm sure the engine block itself would go 200,000 miles .. but all the other things definitely couldn't go 80,000 without certain things starting to fail ...

Saintor

Please...

I mentionned the TL as the car, NOT specifically the engine!

Again, I don't care about older / other products going high mileage. It is jsut that I am interested how well the TL sustained 70-80K miles and if it looks good for the future.

ggesq

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A couple of guys have over 65k in this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ighest+mileage

KaMLuNg

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i vote ...

i have alot of confidence in Honda... my 1st gen is up to 130k miles and still is very strong... just regular maintenance for me...

and i have a 92 prelude daily driver that just rolled 220k miles last week... the only thing in addition to maintenance that has been replaced is the axles...

even tho those two cars were built in Japan i have confidence in Ohio...

MarbleGT

<-----------2001 CL Type S. 157,000 miles.

1st Owner
1 Warrantied Transmission
I change the oil, personally, every 7500 miles.
I have done 0 maintenance. No timing belt, no water pump...no nothing. I've been meaning to, but.......eh, havent.


Car performs as if it was brand new.

Trackruner228

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It can do it. The 04s had a few problems but the 05s seem good to go and sure you might have a few rattles that need to be fixed but under the hood should go to 150k with the proper maintance.

T Ho

157k and no timing belt change? You're playing with fire, bro!

I intend to have my '06 for at least 10 years, so I'll keep you updated. Only at 10500 right now, though, in 14 months.

NE14RoxCJ

150 shouldn't be a problem. I bought mine this year with 75K and it is still in great shape. Dealer serviced (before I bought it). The drivers seat is showing some wear and the paint has some chips (getting buffer and paint this week). It's got 86K today. It replaced my 1988 Acura Legend with 216K miles. That one was getting tired, but I can't say much for its care and maintenance before I got it.
I think that with the proper care and maintenance, the car "as a whole" will last a long time. Look at that thread that shows the 93 Legend with 300K miles. You can expect some things to fail and have to be rebuilt or replaced. But I would expect the electronics side of it to be very reliable. Anyway, looking at mine with 86k on it, I don't think 150K should be any problem.

jeowen

I have all the confidence my 07 will go at least 150K ( of course the proper maint.) my 97 Accord EX got about 175 on it...still strong..

ACCURATEin

If properly maintained, the motor should last for a long time. I've managed to put 105,000 on mine with a lot of hard miles and she's still churning.

mmade22

It all depends on how and where you drive it. I drive 65-70k a year. I just traded my 2005 scion TC with a 147000 miles on it. Never changed anything, not even the brakes!!!! I just needed a bigger car. I bought an 05 TL with the 6 speed
with 33k on it in July. I now have 57k on it. I do 1200-1500 in a work week (5 days). I will be hitting 150k in about a year and a half. I plan to keep the car for 300k since there are no better cars out there for the money. I will let everyone know. Do every maintenance by the book and do it with oem parts. I change my oil once a month (5000 miles) and the car doesn't burn a drop. I didn't burn a drop with the TC when I traded it in. I will let you all know but I would have never bought this car if the reliability wasn't top notch!

I hate cars

I think one important point is to ignore the factory recommendations on servicing the trans, coolant, and powersteering if you plan on keeping it for a while. The long intervals are an advertising point.

KevinDGP

I'm at 87,000 and no problems so far (knock on wood). I haven't even had to change the brake pads yet.

S PAW 1

Cost of ownership is high on an Acura, no doubt about it. But 150,000 miles? It's just getting broken it! I had an '01 CL-S with 144,000,. Except for normal maint., and a failed tranny (when I traded it ..heh!, heh!), I had ZERO problems. Friend of mine just gave his Honda to his son with 235,000. ZERO problems.
How will an '05 TL fare at 150,000 miles??? Better than just about anything else out there IMO

calgary2800

I would be embarrased with my Honda if it didnt make it to 150k. It is the main reason I dont mind driving it without pretty much no regards to racking up the miles. If its a gm, ford, or usa product I would worry.

stillhere153

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dayum 150k miles... at the rate I am going I will never get there
10 months - 6k

DetroitAcura

I have a 2003 Honda Accord that I have driven insanely hard . It is the 4 cylinder and has 108,000 miles.

It has been in 3 accidents including one where a load of lumber came busting through my windshield on the freeway and tore up the interior ripped the roof back and almost took my head off.

The thing has been through a whole lot and the only item I have EVER had fixed (of course other than the accidents) is:

Seat heater button light went out

Sooooo, hell yeah it will go. If the 4 cylinder Accord is still going strong after all that happened and some hardcore way fast highway driving and a lot of stop and go, then the TL will be fine.

Ilya

1992 Subaru Legacy AWD 2.5GT = 240k
1997 Nissan Maxima = 200k
1999 Nissan Maxima = 52k currently but would expect AT LEAST 200k as well. It is for sale, as I am getting a 08 TL-S soon.

Bottom line: Japanese cars, if maintained correctly, run for a LONG time. The worst things on Japanese cars seem to be the trannies (Subaru, some Acuras) and rust problems.

That's my opinion on this matter.

jeff442

Well I just bought my 05' TL (NBP 6MT) with 68,000 miles on it about a month ago and already have 72,000 miles. I have a 130 mile commute round trip and anticipate having the car for at least 3 years, running 40k miles per year. I guess I could be a case study!

Ilya

All highway? If so, then I'd anticipate as long as you do the maintenance properly and don't slack, your car will be just fine. I think that's why Maxima's have ran so well. I do alot of traveling to western NY, PA, and MA for various Youth Conferences and other church camps, etc.

bmaczo6

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The reality is that any properly maintained vehicle available today that is not abused should easily last 150k. Honda/Acura tend to be much better than average so I would not expect any real problems to occur until well north of 200k.

I remember the words of one auto industry expert on Autoline Detroit "The quality of cars has improved so much that the worst car available today is better than the best car was just 10 years ago".

DetroitAcura

I live in Detroit and a lot of my friends buy American brands. They are all trash after one year. Every other car I get is American and ends up a piece of junk. I just dumped a 2006 Pontiac G6 GT because the tie rod ends kept going bad at 22,000 miles. The panoramic roof would get stuck open so my head would get snowed on.

It was junk. GM can keep saying it is getting better, but I am living proof, they have a damn long way to go. To suggest otherwise is laughable. I cannot even talk about Ford and Chrysler. They are just too sloppy to make valid conversation. My family is ALL from the big 3 and relies on them for their income. We all say that their products are inferior. Honda is the way to go.

Ilya

^^ lol. Funny thing about the sunroof.

I will NEVER own an American car. Only time I'll ever own one is if a Corvette, Viper, Lincoln LS, or Chrysler 300 SRT get handed to me and I don't have to pay a dime for the car, ever.

Now, an American TRUCK, is another story. That is one American product I would get over an imported one.

Saintor

BMW typically will do 150K, but not in an economical way. I wouldn't recommend them above 50000 miles. This is the difference.

dt98gsr

As J.P. said in "Angels in the Outfield", "It could happen!" haha

In fact I think if the car is properly maintained and not abused, I would expect to the car to last that long.

bmaczo6

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BMW makes some great engines and with proper maintanance they can be reasonably economical once you get past the initial price. I would not have any fear of running a BMW well past 200k. My sister is running an M3 with about 270,000 miles without any real problems including at least 20,000 miles of track duty. There are plenty of BMW CCA members that get a ton of miles out of them without serious work needed.

Saintor

I love BMW but I disagree. Even my E46 2005 reliability has been going downhill in the last 3 months after 38000 miles of peace.

- Control arms
- Engine stopped running on the road (even lost the actual time setting)
- In another event, engine was running erratically in traffic (I had to quit and restart).
- Lighter stopped running
- Locking's remote stopped working this afternoon.

I wouldn't trust that car long term. Will be returned to BMW in 4 mo.

bmaczo6

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BMW does seem to be having more problems recently especially with the electronics than they should but overall they are still decent cars. They are great driving cars but not worth the entry price IMHO. People tend to take their very personal experiences and assume it is representative of the entire line. This is understandable but not a valid conclusion. I had a new transmission put in my 2006 TL with 3,000 miles. This does not dissuade from concluding that this could still be a very good long term vehicle

1OneLove

What about if it's not all highway?...something like 70% city driving and the remaining on the highway? I too want to keep my Acura beyond 200K miles, but I do worry about all the city driving I do.

Ilya

Well I wouldn't know how city driving effects a car as I live in the rural area outside of Albany, NY. Most of my driving is above 45mph with very little lights. My cars are better for it I think. Not to mention the 2 or so trips each month that I do which are all like 400 miles round trip. I only go through the city on nice summer nights when I want to "cruise" without having to deal with the high amount of wind from the highway lol. In the winter time, I almost never go through the city.

Lenny11

My 05 TL has 120K miles on it so far, and no issues (knock on wood). I got it used at 100K miles last year for a steal. Changed the tranny fluid over to AMSOIL Synthetic, oil over to Mobil-1 Synthethic, and changed air filter to K&N. Timing belt and water pump were already done as well as all oil changes at dealer.

I am fairly confident that this car will do WELL over 150K, and that is why I felt safe buying it with high miles. These cars are very well made!

Johndoyle

... I would say they will easily go 150K plus. There are still tons of old Legends around that are way up in the miles. I also have witnessed Integras effortlessly go to 150 and beyond. But as others have pointed out, maintenance must be performed, and wearing parts have a finite life expectancy. I believe that Honda components are of exceptionally high quality, but things like engine-mounted accessories and body hardware (window motors, pdl actuators, etc.) will eventually wear out. Sadly, transmissions and clutches are also wearing parts and they are costly to replace. Eventually everyone has to make the decision not to sink a couple thousand dollars into an older car that may not be worth much more than that. In that regard, many an older car that theoretically could be repaired is scrapped for economic reasons.

The weakness I wonder about with Honda cars is rust. I'm here in the rust belt (Chicago) and most older Hondas and Acuras have holes in them, particularly the quarter panels. These days those cars are usually more than 10 years old, but rust will definitely end the lives of at least a couple of Civics I know personally. If the move to galvanized steel has solved that problem, these cars could go on and on. It's an interesting question. I guess time will tell.