Originally Posted by jimmyshoes

Great to hear now i would like to hear about a good price on a 07 s manual in toronto. I wonder if they really want to sell that car and will make a deal similar to U.S. prices

Originally Posted by ADabsolutNDN

Today I went to my local Acura dealership to possibly by an 04 TL w/Navi (~45000 km)if the negotiations went well. The asking price was 28,900 (cdn). I asked what they could throw into the deal (eg., nav disc, new front brakes, and a "b" service), but this seemed to really confuse the sales rep for some reason.

The first offer was 28900 w/ all taxes, registration, safety, e test etc etc. The rep took it to his manager and said this wasn't a realistic price. I asked him what his best line was and he came back with 32,200 (taxes in). I told him I wasn't going to pay a penny more than 30,000 and we finally settled in at a deal at 29,800 (taxes in). This whole process took about 2 hours

Heres where the story gets interesting. First of all he only has one key (with fob) for the car and the valet key. He says he doesn't know where the other key + fob went, but that he could include one in the deal. I said okay thats good and put down a $2000 deposit (the max they took on credit). I'm now waiting to talk to the big boss there and he seems to be busy "on the phone." This was kind of disappointing as it had been some time and there was no other customers in the dealership and I thought it was somewhat rude. Finally he finishes on the phone and motions for me to come into his office (to sign the final contract, discuss warranties etc etc)

NOW after all this (2.5 hours-ish) the original sales rep comes up to me and states "I just found out that this TL had been in an accident prior to the dealership receiving it as a trade-in. Now he says its just "minor" so I ask to see the file and on that it states "Front end collision. Estimated repair $15,000". Now this was obviously a big accident and the rep is going on about how it must have been something small like a bumper replacement etc etc.

So now the deal falls apart and I'm pretty steamed at them not informing me when I had first come to see the car and then claiming they "just found out" . Anyways they refunded the $2000 deposit, but I'm still very disappointed.

Sorry for the long post, but I had to tell someone. I guess my question to you guys is what should be my next move? Is it still smart to consider a accident-repaired car or even this dealership for another car?

Thanks for reading boys and hopefully you can provide me with some good comments. Looks like my joining of the acura family will have to be put on hold

Originally Posted by NVMYT

Why go elsewhere? The dealer did EXACTLY what they were suppose to do. They informed you of the accident and even showed you the repair paperwork. Most dealers would not have showed you that until after you signed the contract. They even promptly refunded your deposit...sounds like an OK dealer to me. If they were really trying to deceive you, then they wouldn't have told you about the accident. As for an accident car...I'll bet there are A LOT more out there than you think. About 78% of all used vehicles for sale in the US have been in some kind of fender bender or has had some paint work and unless it's reported to the Insurance company or repaired at the dealership, carfax will NEVER show the accident. In most states, the law says that if no more than 3 panels were painted, then you don't even have to reveal the work. The best way to tell if it were a very serious accident is to look under the hood at the fender bolts. If they have been taken off, then the entire fender was replaced. You can do this around the doors, truck lip and so on. Remember, most insurance claims are VERY inflated, so $15,000CDN may not be a bad accident at all

Originally Posted by ADabsolutNDN

Hey that's an interesting POV you take, but I don't really buy the fact that because they did tell me it makes them a good or "okay" dealer. Considering the fact that they took the car as a trade in after the accident and suppose they did indeed not know -> This suggests the idea that the dealership doesn't check/research the the cars they recieve in trade-ins. Would you buy something from a vendor who doesn't know what they are selling?

Sounds questionable to me. Anyways its all good I got a brand new TL instead so I'm more than happy