Marsaloni

So I have a 04 6MT TL w/ michelin x-ice 2 tires with decent tread left.

My GF has an 11' hyundai tuscon FWD automatic w/ the factory all season tires.


The TL has LSD in the front, I'm unsure if the tuscon does. Mines manual, hers is automatic. She's higher off the ground, weighs more, and the tires I imagine are slightly skinnier, but I have way better tires. We both have traction control and she has stability control which I don't. However I always turn traction off, I prefer to handle the car myself.

Which do you think would take the snow better? I think the TL will..

EvilVirus

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Question: Whats the point of this question? Is it just curiousity? The one equip properly will surpass the other and from what describle; your TL seems better equip.

GRAF-FITI

might as well make it a bench racing thread

pohljm

Who cares? The snow will melt and no one wants the hyundai

Nick216

Only thing good about Hyundai is the 10 year 100k mile warranty. Unless its a turbo genesis, im completely ok with that.

JTS97Z28

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The SUV will probably be better IMO, but I have never driven a TL with winter tires. I drove my 07 Type S 6mt last night in a good amount of snow and I had much higher hopes for my brand new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3's. Even the slightest tap of throttle regardless of gear the tires just spun. Braking and handling wasn't anything to write home about either.

Marsaloni

I guess the real question would be if all the variables were the same would a fwd suv out perform a fwd compact car in the snow?


I drove the the TL with all season tires in the snow and it was garbage like stated above. I'm a summer tire/winter tire guy. With the snow tires i have no problems.

callahan

I drive my tl year around and I get around just fine in the snow with my dws.

paperboy42190

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wow Im surprised at this review, I thought the A/S 3's are great tires. but then again they arent snow tires so it might be unfair.

i_love_cars

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you lost me at hyundai.

JTS97Z28

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Well im not saying they arent great tires because so far in dry and wet conditions they are great, but my one experience so far in snowy conditions they definetely did not seem to be as good as my wifes DWS's on her Accord. Its really not that big of a deal anyway because here around Chicago we only have a few times a year where the roads are caked in snow and then the roads are usually cleared pretty quickly anyway. And its not like it wasnt driveable, just not as confident feeling as I have felt when the same type of car had DWS's, or even the stock Michelin MXM's. I was a bit surprised though and I did have higher hopes in the snow.

Thorin78

I've not seen the TL last a zombie apocalypse whereas the Hyundai has in the Walking Dead. So I'd go w/ the Hyundai.

nj2pa2nc

knowing how to drive in the snow helps a lot

fsttyms1

Having driven the Hyundai in the snow, i can guarantee that the TL with snows is better. Now if the Hyundai has snows as well it will be a horse a piece.

Alexns05

I'd take the Hyundai Equus over Acura RL any day.

NorCoTL

That is what you could call a win for Hyundai Marketing and product placement...

I see more SUV's and full size trucks in the ditch than I do cars. Often it is the false sense of security that people have in bad weather because they are in those vehicles (especially if they are 4wd). The extra ground clearance of the Hyundai can be a double edged sword, more clearance to get through deeper snow but higher center of gravity which can be harder to control if everything goes pear shaped. Even stock TL's don't have a lot of ground clearance though so deep snow can be an issue, like most passenger vehicles.

Back in the mid 80's when the small Toyota Trucks were all the rage we would see those upside down in ditches with every snowstorm, especially if the storm included high winds.

GKinColo08TL

WhereTF did this come from?

abrieluno

Most of the guys will pick a vehicle that is higher for better visibility but for me thats not the case, having a good set of Winter tires will help alot to get through the snow and always remember that You control the car not the car contolling you

wise_optimist

2WD with winter tires is better than AWD with all season tires.

One of those auto magazines did this not too long ago (C&D or R&T). Tirerack also does this regularly as well.

flyromeo3

well when you have 8 - 9 inches of snow to plow through, your TL with snow tires isn't going to get you through it.
I know, because I just experienced this.


Ended up driving back home and taking the pilot.

coykiam

Winner!


With that said, I just got my DWS installed a couple months ago and my 3G did fine with the recent NY snow/icy conditions. With my last tire (Goodyear Eagle F1 All Season), it was good for the first 2 years then after that I was slipping, sliding and had a hard time during snowy conditions.

Spyro235

I too, as a (relatively) new TL 6mt owner, had much higher hopes for these tires in the snow. They are phenomenal in wet and dry but god damn, I live in Syracuse and the recent storms were the first time I had driven my TL in the snow, and it was disappointing. Being that I spent all my money on a nice car, and top of the line tires, (although I managed to get 4 PS3 A/S's for ~$750) I can't afford snows. Which it seems are in order by next winter, if I can afford them.

Eaglesfan9106

My 08 tl s handled like a champ in about 4-5 inches of snow the other day I have brand new firestone precision sport tires all around fwd ftw when your tires are spinning just turn the way you wanna go and it goes lol

Spyro235

That's exactly what I ended up doing, but it's a big change from the AWD of subaru's in the snow, that I was used to because both of my parents own subarus. Even my previous '05 accord was markedly better in the snow, I account that to the much skinnier tires.

splew

Since they're both FWD, I imagine the Hyundai's only advantage would be ground clearance.

BTW, people who buy crossovers without AWD baffle me. It's like ordering a hamburger with no meat. The whole selling point of crossovers is increased off-road/snow capability, which you really don't get without AWD.

MilanoRedDashR

This is not correct

GRAF-FITI

funny - you make an assertive statement without providing support

MilanoRedDashR

It doesn't need support, lol

GRAF-FITI

if you're not providing support, you're stating an opinion.

so thanks for your .02

MilanoRedDashR

You seem reallllly butt hurt for some reason.


Have you driven both?


You might be able to stop a little better, but you're not going to have more success driving in a few inches of snow.. You're not going to be able to take off at an intersection on snow/ice quicker...


A decent set a all seasons is all you need w FWD...


I've got studded snows on my fwd car and all seasons on my silverado and you better believe I take the truck when it snows, although the car does just fine too, it's spin spin spin even if it does make it. The truck has no issues

YeuEmMaiMai

absolutely....

GRAF-FITI

no butt hurtedness here i wear a chastity belt. i just don't care for simpletons who make blanket generalizations like their an authority on a certain subject matter with no actual insight. fyi we're also not talking about your truck - let's compare apples to apples

your opinion is exactly that: an opinion. yes, i have driven both in multiple combinations: fwd w/ snow, fwd w/ all season, awd w/ all season, awd w/ snow. my opinion is supported by multiple tests performed by third parties.

obviously awd w/ snow is top notch, but I'll take a fwd with snows over awd with all seasons most of the time (tire quality does play a factor, let's be honest).