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Accounting
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3.94%
Banking & Finance
30
5.92%
BioTech/Medical Research
3
0.59%
Contract/Freelance/Entreprenurial
2
0.39%
Customer Service
6
1.18%
Education/Teaching/Training
11
2.17%
Engineering
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13.61%
Executive
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2.76%
Government
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3.94%
Healthcare
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7.50%
Hospitality/Food Industry
2
0.39%
Human Resources
5
0.99%
Information Technology
138
27.22%
Internet or New Media
8
1.58%
Manufacturing
7
1.38%
Management
25
4.93%
Military
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1.38%
Nonprofit
3
0.59%
Retail
2
0.39%
Sales & Marketing
32
6.31%
Science
8
1.58%
Student
17
3.35%
Writer
1
0.20%
Homeless
6
1.18%
Criminal Career
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0.99%
Other (List below)
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5.52%
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Old 10-24-2004, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by aloedesign
You need an Arts/Media category. The term new media is a silly meaningless phrase. (where's the line between old and new media?)
Ok, maybe i'll just give in and put IT.
I did miss the Arts Media category, my apologies, I didnt really make these up but got them from career sites i've seen on the internet.

The question about internet or new media is really about web arts and digital design

So i guess the line could be drawn new media being on the internet? I dunno, not my category.

In either case...sorry I didn't represent your profession
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Debate...please help (Kind of Long!)

Hi guys,


I really hope I am not opening up pandora's box here. I noticed the major are in the IT field, as am I.

My question to you all is how many of you have pursued onto a master's degree in IS/IT? How many for MBAs? I guess I want to know is it a MUST? Is it certain with MS & MBA you are going to be financially well off.

I am being pressured to purse a MS and/or MBA, but I know myself, and I would not fit in that environment. I never really liked school, but I did like to learn a lot. I just can't see myself going on to MS or MBA. However, a lot of people even professional magazines (and other media) all seem to say get MS/MBA or be left in the dust.....

I understand that if you wanted a real high level position like CEO, CIO, even at Director level, a MS or MBA might work. However I am not looking to purse that kind of lifestyle. Don't get me wrong, but I would like to make 110K+, and still have a life, and have lots of time with my family instead of working all the time. Also, I am not looking for examples like Dell, Gates, the Google guys....those are one of a kind folk...I am looking for more info as it pertains to an average guy like myself.

What do you guys think?



Oh, Mods...I hope this is the right place to post this. I wasn't sure where to put this....
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I'm in a similar situation. From the people I have spoken with, it's not absolutely necessary to have a MS/MBA in this field. It really is more dependent on who you know, I'm sure everyone will tell you that. If you're good at what you do, you can generate demand.. go from job to job and you'll probably be able to increase your income. IT consultants make about 100k+ in my area, and most of the people that I know in the field don't have MBAs, they just joined right after they finished their undergrad work.
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Originally Posted by Shinj1EVA
I'm in a similar situation. From the people I have spoken with, it's not absolutely necessary to have a MS/MBA in this field. It really is more dependent on who you know, I'm sure everyone will tell you that. If you're good at what you do, you can generate demand.. go from job to job and you'll probably be able to increase your income. IT consultants make about 100k+ in my area, and most of the people that I know in the field don't have MBAs, they just joined right after they finished their undergrad work.

Thanks Shinj1EVA. Yeah I have had some people say "it depends"...but then again every where else they say it is a must. Knowing myself, I can probably do better in a work environment vs. school. I am just not the academia type. My parents, and uncles, and some cousin want me to do it becusae they believe that I will make it to the top with lots of $$$ if I do a MS/MBA.....Although this can be true, I think there are other ways to make it...I just I could pinpoint that! haha....Again I would be must happy making lots of $$$ AND having time to have a life for myself and with my family... I am sure there are quite of few experience folks have or had been in the same situation as I am...I would love to hear your stories, experiences, input...
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Originally Posted by A-TL

I understand that if you wanted a real high level position like CEO, CIO, even at Director level, a MS or MBA might work. However I am not looking to purse that kind of lifestyle. Don't get me wrong, but I would like to make 110K+, and still have a life, and have lots of


FYI a CEO or CIO usually makes in excess of 200-300k a year...

110 is very attainable for someone without a degree...
Old 11-07-2004, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerky
FYI a CEO or CIO usually makes in excess of 200-300k a year...

110 is very attainable for someone without a degree...
Sorry....I should have been a bit more clear....I meant to say I am not shooting for a CEO or CIO lifestyle, nor their salary.... I think 110 - 180K is good enough for me...

Still I am suprised people without mba's or ms still do that well...Maybe i just can't see it, or I don't know many people like that...Not to mention that fact these people might have gone to a top notch school.....I didn't graduate from a top notch scool....
Old 11-07-2004, 03:16 PM
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No one else in Real Estate like me? I'm an appraiser and a Broker.

A-TL and others. Generally more formal education is better IMHO. Better to have and not need than to need and not have. Get your MS or MBA while you are easily able to, just my $.02. Never can tell what opportunities the future will bring.

Mike
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Originally Posted by MR1


No one else in Real Estate like me? I'm an appraiser and a Broker.

A-TL and others. Generally more formal education is better IMHO. Better to have and not need than to need and not have. Get your MS or MBA while you are easily able to, just my $.02. Never can tell what opportunities the future will bring.

Mike

Thanks Mike...


Real Estate is something that is really catching my interest....I am just starting off and learning the bare basic....so overwhelming and confusing at times.

Anway, your $.02 was the other side of my debate. Simply that is best to get a formal education becusae it easier to get now.....

I have also had people say you don't need the formal degree but you can and should always keep up with the latest..take one or two night class every so often to keep learning....


Since I wanted to get into project mangement I was going to look into getting my PM certificate that is widely credited....however, I have a doubt that, the certificate would just not cut it....
Old 11-07-2004, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sukinsyn
I'm a Desperate Housewife...I went to college, got a BS, went to law school...got a paralegal certificate. Now I do laundry, housework and other Marthaesque endeavors. When I have time. ;-)

Interesting
Old 11-07-2004, 04:11 PM
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I'm just a pilot, but my Daddy ownes the airline.
Woah you're a regular comedian.
Old 11-07-2004, 10:40 PM
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Woah you're a regular comedian.

IM not laffin..
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So, any other inputs and advice ..maybe I will check back tomorrow.hhmm
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Old 11-08-2004, 09:21 AM
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could that be

Hospitatlity or Sales and marketing?
Old 11-08-2004, 11:56 AM
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did you vote for "engineering"?
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I am an underpaid Professional Locksmith.. Not that anyone really cares.
So what did you vote? customer service or criminal career?
just kidding...
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i am an account exec....so i guess, customer service?
An accout exec? You mean... A salesperson?
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You don't NEED any of those degrees for this but you do need an aptitude for the business. I have no college degree at all and passed your mark about 10 years ago. I did attend college but did not graduate.

Originally Posted by A-TL
Hi guys,


I really hope I am not opening up pandora's box here. I noticed the major are in the IT field, as am I.

My question to you all is how many of you have pursued onto a master's degree in IS/IT? How many for MBAs? I guess I want to know is it a MUST? Is it certain with MS & MBA you are going to be financially well off.

I am being pressured to purse a MS and/or MBA, but I know myself, and I would not fit in that environment. I never really liked school, but I did like to learn a lot. I just can't see myself going on to MS or MBA. However, a lot of people even professional magazines (and other media) all seem to say get MS/MBA or be left in the dust.....

I understand that if you wanted a real high level position like CEO, CIO, even at Director level, a MS or MBA might work. However I am not looking to purse that kind of lifestyle. Don't get me wrong, but I would like to make 110K+, and still have a life, and have lots of time with my family instead of working all the time. Also, I am not looking for examples like Dell, Gates, the Google guys....those are one of a kind folk...I am looking for more info as it pertains to an average guy like myself.

What do you guys think?



Oh, Mods...I hope this is the right place to post this. I wasn't sure where to put this....
Old 11-08-2004, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ndabunka
You don't NEED any of those degrees for this but you do need an aptitude for the business. I have no college degree at all and passed your mark about 10 years ago. I did attend college but did not graduate.

Really?? Whao....is that a special case or common. I just got done talking to a new employee that joined our group. She was saying the first two maybe three years it is fine without a MS or MBA...however once you start moving up you , the faster you hit the cieling and no room to go anywhere. She said that is becuase once at the level, one get selected becuase one has a masters degree and 2 year expereience vs. 2 year experience and no master degree. ....Therefore with a master degree you have more ability to move up and not remain stuck at a certain level past 2-3 years.......just a thought...

Thanks.
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Yeah I voted Engineering.. My degree is in Electrical Engineering actually..
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Another homemaker here! A lot of volunteering goes on too. No degree, no formal college education. But, raising 2 teenagers is giving me quite an education! Had to get the TL to get me out of Mommy Mode. It worked!
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that's cool! GOOD FOR YOU!!!
Old 11-08-2004, 07:19 PM
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I came from IT background w/ an Electrical Engineering degree, but nowdays I have two real estate companies that I ran w/ my business partners.
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I'm in IT too. I'm a gadget geek, and I think the voice-recog NAVI for TL with the bluetooth technology is just about every geek's fantasy car. Those features were what made us choose the TL over the A4 or the BMW 3 series
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Old 11-09-2004, 11:23 AM
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With the Geek catergories winning, it makes me wonder what the spread would be on a 3 series or G forum. As in, do "Geeks Prefer the TL!" ??
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Originally Posted by Casper42
With the Geek catergories winning, it makes me wonder what the spread would be on a 3 series or G forum. As in, do "Geeks Prefer the TL!" ??

1 Yes, I would think that geeks would prefer the TL.

2 Acura doesn't carry the same brand image as BMW for coolness. Perhaps there would be more respondents that would answer "business or sales" and people more concerned with their outward image?

3 Also, there are a lot of geeks on the bulletin boards, its unlikely the non geeks would be using these forums (haahha i called you a geek)

4 therefore the primary user segment of the forum are geeks in the first place... if we polled a wider TL audience, we would likely get a broader spectrum of career professions.

we wont really know unless we do a wider market research however.

(dont flame me for segmenting...I get paid to do this in my day job, im in marketing)
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(dont flame me for segmenting...I get paid to do this in my day job, im in marketing)
hehe .. so are you doing some kind of TL Ad or something?
Old 11-09-2004, 02:18 PM
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No...im not advertising, I dont work for acura or honda or anyone in the auto industry...

I dont think the TL needs much advertising anyways (which they dont anways)...the car sells itself.
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Hey, not for Me! I live 2000 miles away!
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