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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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When VTEC engages is there an in car indication? It would be cool if the car would say "Warning, VTEC engaged, hold on to your asses"!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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you can hear and feel it, but no there is no warning... besides by the time it said all that more then likely the car will no longer be in vtec. speed limit comes up quick you know...
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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there are some people that install a small LED that connects to the vtec solenoid and the light comes on when vtec engages...some people think its rice, some people dont
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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wow, first time hearing about the LED vtec indicator.

that's just idiotic... they probably got a shift light and "custom installed" it.

it's a lil redundant to have a vtec indicator on the dash... the sound itself lets you and everyone around you know that it's hauling ass.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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but that would be Very TEChnical.... the engineers would rather put silly additives in your motor.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Why would anyone want or need that? It's like advertising it with a sticker. A "VTEC" sticker (or in this case light) might have been cool a decade ago. In the days of VVT-i and VANOS and tons of other variable valve timing acronyms, VTEC isn't anything special. I'm glad it's there, but my engine says "3.2 VTEC" and that's good enough for me.

Rice, anyone?
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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yeah... even GM's got variable valve timing... that's proof enough that it's old news.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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Yah, but I think it would be cool to half a Vtec light go on, not neccasarily any other bells and whistles. One can obviously tell, but being the driver I would want to know exactly what was going on with my engine. If the car doesnt have it, I am not putting one in, but I would have liked to see a light in the Tack that went on when Vteck was engaged, or at least a color change at the point where the Tach gauge is at an RPM in Vtec.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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i think it would be nice if it was just an LED that blended into the tach. (below the L a blu light maybe)
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Sensational...

Try to test drive Honda Prelude first, then come back to drive 3GTL... you will feel the huge difference...
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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I think you feel it a little more on the dohc 4's that have vtec on intake and exhaust.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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dohc vtec > sohc vtec
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 01:19 AM
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Yea totally Argree with Mr1, I usa to have a 2000 Prelude, After i had the intake and exhaust installed. DAMN that thing screams and pulls!
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Yea totally Argree with Mr1, I usa to have a 2000 Prelude, After i had the intake and exhaust installed. DAMN that thing screams and pulls!
My 2004 TL screams and pulls with intake and exhaust but TheMainEvents 2004 TL not only screams and pulls, but puts my TL in her rearview mirror in a blur.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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Perhaps an audible VTEC indicator would work well. Something like this:

VTEC Engaged!

That would remove all doubt, and it's definitely not 'ricey'.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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Do they make a VTEC controller for the TL so you can adjust what RPM VTEC kicks in? Has anyone done this?
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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Thats a dive alarm. Short, Short, Long. I would rather some british model say " VTEC system engaged" and have some cool warning stuff flash on the navi screen.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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some people install the light for boost and A/F ratio reasons...
but i do think it would be kinda cool if it blended in with the dash, just one small LED....but not a humungus shift light
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by crazymjb
Thats a dive alarm. Short, Short, Long. I would rather some british model say " VTEC system engaged" and have some cool warning stuff flash on the navi screen.

Maybe an audible warning like this one is in order: VTEC alert
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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that would be a little too over the top for me, definitely not something i'd want in my car.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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I'm sorry, but that's just a bit too corny for me
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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haha. It would be nice if there was a factory installed light in the tac section. The type of back lit icon, like for the VSA or low fuel. Nothing to flashy. BTW, it would be pretty simple to record that sound onto a digital audio recorder from radio shack and wire the play button through a relay and off the solenoid, and then have it either play from seperate speakers or the car speaker. I have made these modified recorders for sound effects for halloween setups. My other commonly visited place is halloweenforum. Halloween, girls, cars, and big screen tvs, ahh.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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Err because you spend all of 5 seconds at a time in VTEC? Unless you're well into the triple digit speeds, or holding the RPMs way high, VTEC is only working for seconds until the transmission shifts. Any kind of indicator would be pointless.

VTEC isn't like a turbocharger... it's just all the lag, none of the power.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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That would be so unneccesary. When you're ass is tighter to your seat you know you're in VTEC...
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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Still, it would be cool. If i had the option of a light going on in the Tach, id jump on it. After 150 MPH your navi should display go all black and flash warning on the screen, just for kicks.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ndx2
yeah... even GM's got variable valve timing... that's proof enough that it's old news.
Ah, but Honda was the very first to come up with this technology. At the time of its introduction, it was groundbreaking technology.

It just goes to show that Honda knows engines.

Too bad VTEC in our cars is virtually useless except for the cool sound.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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hmm... adrenaline rush + flashing screens = seizure...
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Ah, but Honda was the very first to come up with this technology. At the time of its introduction, it was groundbreaking technology.

It just goes to show that Honda knows engines.

Too bad VTEC in our cars is virtually useless except for the cool sound.



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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ndx2


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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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what RPM does VTEC kick in anyway? its hard for me to tell because this is the only manual car i ever driven
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Ah, but Honda was the very first to come up with this technology. At the time of its introduction, it was groundbreaking technology.

It just goes to show that Honda knows engines.

Too bad VTEC in our cars is virtually useless except for the cool sound.
It's not. It improves low end torque, high end power, and fuel economy over the non-VTEC version of the same engine. Now the question is why do they not use DOHC VTEC (or the same version of i-VTEC on the 4cyl engine) on the J-series?
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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When VTEC is engaged you are constantly getting more power but less milage then if you werent in Vtec, no matter what the RPM, correct? If this is correct it should engage during hard acceleration too. The Magnum V8 engages at high speeds and high accel, but not when its not needed. But it isnt only after a certain RPM, the Vtec should do this too.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by youngTL
It's not. It improves low end torque, high end power, and fuel economy over the non-VTEC version of the same engine. Now the question is why do they not use DOHC VTEC (or the same version of i-VTEC on the 4cyl engine) on the J-series?
On our cars, the VTEC only optimizes the valve timing on the intake port; the exhaust port operates on the same, constant, valve timing. It's useless, compared to DOHC VTEC.

And fuel economy isn't a primary concern on our VTEC; VTEC-E is the fuel efficient version.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by crazymjb
When VTEC is engaged you are constantly getting more power but less milage then if you werent in Vtec, no matter what the RPM, correct? If this is correct it should engage during hard acceleration too. The Magnum V8 engages at high speeds and high accel, but not when its not needed. But it isnt only after a certain RPM, the Vtec should do this too.
Because VTEC doesn't work based on throttle input; the concept of VTEC is based on the airflow into the engine, RPM-dependent.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Because VTEC doesn't work based on throttle input; the concept of VTEC is based on the airflow into the engine, RPM-dependent.
IVTEC works on throttle response
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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The TLs vtec is nice, and I now understand it wouldnt work on throttle response. In addition, this is SOHC, but it still has 2 cams, one on the left one on the right. What was to gain by using sohc over dohc?
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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You know what would be awesome? If the blue LED's in the car turned red when VTEC engaged. Imagine how bad ass that would look at night!
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
On our cars, the VTEC only optimizes the valve timing on the intake port; the exhaust port operates on the same, constant, valve timing. It's useless, compared to DOHC VTEC.

And fuel economy isn't a primary concern on our VTEC; VTEC-E is the fuel efficient version.

VTEC is by far not useless. Power wise, you are gaining a lot. It is just spread across the board instead of a sudden jump. I think the most they could get out of the J-series 3.2L engine without VTEC was 210hp (in the Legend).

If there are two engines, identical except for VTEC, the VTEC version will get slightly better mileage because less fuel is wasted inside the cylinder on the intake stroke. Take the 2004 3.5RL and the 2005RL for example. Both engines are the J35, but the 2005 has VTEC. In terms of sheer POWER, the second engine has 75hp more (i think 65% of that is due to the separate cam in VTEC), and the 2004 is rated at 18/24, whereas the 2005 is rated at 18/26 mpg.

I agree, DOHC VTEC is far superior. I don't know what their reasoning is for not using it on the V6's is.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 12:27 AM
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You know what would be awesome? If the blue LED's in the car turned red when VTEC engaged. Imagine how bad ass that would look at night!
I can just see it, would feel like a jet fighter
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