VSA & TCS Explained - Schematic 3G Garage #L136

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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VSA & TCS Explained - Schematic 3G Garage #L136

Here is a quick one explaining Vehicle Stability Assist and Traction Control Systems....

Taken from Acura Service Consultant Illustrated Technical Guide, copyright 2005 American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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This is an excerpt about the VSA to go with the illustration Michael provided. The entire article and technical overview can be found at Acura News

Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA)
The TL is equipped with 4-channel VSA that helps the driver retain control of the car in the event the vehicle reaches its dynamic traction limits, for example through aggressive cornering, encountering ice or dirt on the road, or entering a decreasing-radius corner too fast.

In the event of understeer (where the front tires lose grip), the system applies the inside front and rear brakes to increase yaw (vehicle "rotation"), slowing the vehicle and enabling it to complete the turn. Engine torque may also be reduced by coordination of the Drive-by-Wire Throttle System and Engine Controller.

The 4-channel system controls all four brakes independently. In the event of oversteer (where the rear tires lose grip), the system applies the outside front and rear brakes to decrease yaw, slowing the vehicle and enabling it to stay on its intended path.

An indicator light on the instrument panel alerts the driver whenever the VSA system is actively enhancing the vehicle's stability.

The traction control component of VSA uses sensors that monitor each of the wheels and a computer-controlled modulation of engine power and front brakes to help prevent wheel spin when starting out or accelerating. If the sensors detect wheel spin, traction control reduces engine power and applies brake force to the affected wheels. This helps the TL maintain traction during acceleration and helps the driver retain steering control, even when accelerating on slippery surfaces.

A cockpit switch is provided to disable the vehicle stability and traction control aspects of the system while leaving the ABS system fully functional.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawhyen51
This is an excerpt about the VSA to go with the illustration Michael provided. The entire article and technical overview can be found at Acura News
Hey....great addition! Should be really helpful to people....and that really rounds this thread out well! See how things work out when us AZ members work together! A+ man!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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Just tryin to help out. These informational threads will help everyone....... Thanks for starting them.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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another one damn good lookin!!!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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I still have never seen my VSA light come on. I'm not sure why -- and I know there's been a few times when I accelerated in wet conditions and the front tires spun a little.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lore
I still have never seen my VSA light come on. I'm not sure why -- and I know there's been a few times when I accelerated in wet conditions and the front tires spun a little.
Keyword is little. Mine only goes off if I'm doing something stupid.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Keyword is little. Mine only goes off if I'm doing something stupid.
Same here. I have only gotten the TCS light blinking a few times accelerating in snow or in the rain. I've had the rear loose a few times and VSC never kicked in. I saved it every single time. It was just a natural reaction. I didn't want to wait for it to kick in as I think I would be in some serious do do once I got to that point.

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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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I've seen the VSA come on a few times. Get a little wild on a wet road and it will go off. However, it only comes on for the exact seconds it's being used, it doesn't stay on for any buffered time or anything... it might flash for 1/8 sec here and there and you would never notice.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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pics fixed and resized.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MichaelBenz
pics fixed and resized.
i was wondering that too... thanks!
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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I know my VSA came on few times... does TL have TCS? I believe there is no indicator like VSA for TCS if we do. Am I wrong?
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Keyword is little. Mine only goes off if I'm doing something stupid.

I'm Curious....what constitutes "stupid?"
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by yohan81718
I know my VSA came on few times... does TL have TCS? I believe there is no indicator like VSA for TCS if we do. Am I wrong?
Yes TCS is on the TL, it works in combination with VSA.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by junyoure
I'm Curious....what constitutes "stupid?"
Driving too fast on slippery surfaces. I dont do it on the roads, but I've tested VSA on a wet parking lot with permission. It really works well.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 02:24 AM
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very good info.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Driving too fast on slippery surfaces. I dont do it on the roads, but I've tested VSA on a wet parking lot with permission. It really works well.

Good idea. I may try that around here.

This has bee some damn good info. Thanks everybody for taking the sime to share.

-Jr.
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