jungy4

How safe is our OEM spare jack and how many use it for maintenance? I usually use it for doing the brakes and put a jackstand underneath just in case since I am not shaking the car.

TLtrigirl

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i wouldn't. just go buy yourself a floor jack.

guitarplayer16

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+1

potmilkz

you can if you want to end up 6 feet under.

CesarRod

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pro-Lift-F...-Jack/16539088

only 43 dollars can't beat that

spaceboy

http://www.harborfreight.com/rapid-p...html-7814.html

super light

CesarRod

sorry about that i actually did a quick seach and didn't give you the correct info:

for a 3rd generation curb weight would be 3480.

both my link and spaceboy link won't work

ez12a

as long as you plan on not getting under your car.

some guy on my old teg forum had someone die when the scissor jack collapsed/fell over. Even if you're not under it you risk damaging your car.

the TL's scissor jack barely gives you any height anyway. Just get a good floor jack.

avs007

The caliper bolts will be pretty damn tight, so when you torque those loose, your car will shake. Plus, there isn't room to put a jackstand next to the OEM jack... Get a floor jack, and use it on the front/center jack point, and put stands on the front/side jack points.

UA6~RBP

No, I'd say the OEM jack should only be used for road-side emergencies. This is the jack that my dad bought for general garage use:

splew

While you physically can use the spare scissor jack for maintenance, just go out to Sears and get yourself a Craftsman 3-ton floor jack and a set of jack stands. It's $150 or less for tools that will make your car work experience much easier and much safer and should last for decades.

ez12a

If you can spare the money, I would get at least a decent jack that can lift over 15". The higher the car is the more leverage you can get when working on things under the car. Jacks with light duty should last years. My dad has one from 1989 and it still works fine. It just doesnt lift very high so I cant even use the front jack point to lift the car high enough to fit stands on the sides.

Something like this:http://www.harborfreight.com/25-ton-...ump-68049.html

or their 2 Ton version that lifts to 23" ($129)

Healingduck

Can you use it for doing maintenance? Sure....

Would I trust it? Hell no. It's not that much to just go buy one for when you're doing maintenance.

The only time I would use it is in an emergency.

dschaos

Do yourself a favor and just get a floor jack, its not worth risking getting hurt using the spare jack.

splew

Yeah, floor jacks are not something to cheap out on. Spend the money on a good one has a high lifting height, reasonably high capacity and is built to last.

Also, don't buy a 2-ton jack. The TL weighs around 3500lbs with a tank of gas, so you would be pushing that 2-ton jack (which are typically cheaply made) close to its rated limit.

Get a 3-ton jack. They are typically better made, and you wouldn't be pushing it anywhere near it's weight limit with the TL. Plus you could use it to lift virtually any vehicle up to a half ton pickup.

lusid

Are you guys lifting the ENTIRE car at once? Probably not. I think 2ton jacks are completely fine.

Just a IMO.

94eg!

lol. You don't lift the entire car off the floor with the jack alone. That's just silly. No need to break the 2-ton barrier (4000lbs).

It doesn't matter what you lift the car with. The important part is jack stands. Don't work on your car without them. Even with a floor-jack, you still run the risk of injury or death without jack-stands.

NavS

or under 2000lbs

CesarRod

^lmao

vietxquangstah

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DON'T TRUST THE SPARE TIRE JACK... HAD MY CAR SLIDE OFF OF IT WHILE I WAS TRYING TO ADJUST MY COILOVERS HEIGHT...

I was finishing up and right when I lifted the tire up to mount it to the wheel hub, my TL slid off the spare tire jack and slammed on the passenger side rotor (I took the front passenger side tire off to adjust coilover height)... Coincidentally my front passenger side CV axle boot is torn and was leaking grease and my upper ball joint boot cover also was torn. I did not find that out until about 3 months AFTER the incident of my car sliding off the spare tire jack.... I don't know if that was the cause, but I have a very strong feeling that was the reason...

I will never ever ever ever ever work on a car without jackstands, wheel chocks, and a proper hydraulic floor jack now. F spare-tire jacks.

I warned you....

splew

I realize that, but the higher the weight rating, the better. Personally I would want a jack that is rated to easily handle the weight of the whole car, and then some. For something I trust to lift and hold my car (until I get jack stands under it) safely, I would much rather spend $60 extra to have the confidence that it can easily handle the weight.

Plus, tools are an investment, and like I said before, with a 3-ton jack you can lift virtually any normal vehicle including most pickup trucks. With a 2-ton jack you're a lot more limited.


You're absolutely right about the jack stands though. Always use them.

CesarRod

Just wondering does the tls come with a x or sign in the car where the jack suppose to be? Like other cars?

ez12a

iirc there are arrows pointing to pinch welds and also flat spot in the front where it should go. Easy to spot. If you have doubts, read your user manual.

I can fit a stand under the front point if I jack up one of the corners using my dad's jack. I think i'll ask him if we can split the cost of a new one. That extra 5-6" in jack height makes a big difference.

Azndjay

for rear is the tow hooks in the back.. " anything is will cave in !!"

SpiderX1016

If you rest it on jack stands then you'll be fine. It's just more convenient to have a 2+ ton jack. You don't have to go run out and buy a jack.

94eg!

I would only use the spare tire scissor jack to lift at the jacking points right next to the tires. I would not use it to jack under the front subframe or the rear tow-hook jack points. There is nothing at those two points to lock the jack into place. Plus the car has a greater chance of sliding sideways if two wheels are off the ground. Only use the scissor jack to jack one wheel off the ground.

Bearcat94

Bad idea. Get proper tools, including jack and jack stands or ramps.



Uhmmm, no (the 2nd part of your post, I agree with - get a floor jack).

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Hi speed

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I bought a $30 little floor jack from sears years ago and it works perfect for jacking the car up in tight confines like a garage. I bought a nice Jegs aluminum jack but due to the size it's hard to use unless you have a lot of space. I would look at the size of the jack and your needs. Working outside, nice floor jack with big wheels. Working in the garage where spaces are tighter and the suface smoother I would opt for a smaller jack with a shorter handle. Can't go wrong with sears jack stands, no harbor freight, just not worth the risk to cheap out on jack stands when good ones are pretty cheap.

SpiderX1016

and they both didn't have jack stands.
Another safety precaution: When you have the wheels off, throw them under the rocker panels.

Someone sent me this link, Be careful out there.
http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/D...nt-3459409.php

NBP04TL4ME

This is what I did years ago.......

Bearcat94

So did I. I went with the 3-ton, not for the capacity, but because of the higher lift height than the 2 1/4 ton.

Iirc, I got the jack and stands as a set on sale; fairly cheap, but don't recall how much.

borrowman

I went with a lesser 2-ton jack and regret it, as I do not have the height needed to properly lift the rear end. Spend the money on a decent jack and jack stands.

Azndjay

^^^1+...dude i had the same F***en problem , but thats after i found out that yours suppose to jack it from the hook and my car was up on all 4 jack stands already . i jack them under near the spot where u put the stands and cave one of them in. my jacks were too short for the tow hook palce. I was so pissed#$#*&&*

RaviNJCLs

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Get a cheep floor jack to lift the car and then use jack stands. Safest way to work on your car.



I picked up an Arcan XL35R 3.5 Ton Low Profile jack from Costco for $99. I wanted a 3 Ton with a higher max because I also have a Pathfinder. I've used this jack about 8-10 times in the last 6 months for both cars and it's well worth the cash.

http://arcanusa.com/lifting.html

Harbor Freight also has a couple nice ones.

http://www.harborfreight.com/25-ton-...ump-68049.html

Tehvine

I bought a low profile, high lift aluminum jack from sears a couple years ago. It allows me to reach the lift points on both ends of the car to get jack stands under. Works great! I also will re-iterate the importance of jack stands. Don't forget to block the tire(s) opposite from where you are jacking. IE: If jacking the front passenger, block the rear driver... Jacking from front lift point, block both rear tires etc.

I even go the extra step and throw some old wheels/tires under the sides of the car WITH jack stands. Just in case a stand gives out or something, I rather the car land on a spare wheel and tire to fuck up the car instead of my face.

JDM8o9

local man died my area last week from the jack giving out ..so what ever you do use a jack stand

Silver_Surfer

Rav is right. The $99 costco car jack is a monster and it's low profile too. It can handle the TL easily. But don't even trust just a jack though. Always have some stands as well.

Get this:

DC2many

I had a close call on my Previous car integra. I lifted the rear Passengerside for something I do not remember but as I was about to go under it collapsed and fell. Wow could have been my head that collapsed if I went.

I'm using a harborfreight jack for bout 3 years so far and still seem to be good to go. Always use jackstands

cjTL

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If you're going to use it (I've used it to paint my calipers), slide the wheel you have off underneath the frame as an extra security measure.

CLtotheTL32

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I did my whole suspension swap using the scissor jack

I plan on getting a floor jack though. That Costco XL floor jack looks perfect!