emilio320

Okay so i have decided that i am completely bored with the fact that my car is automatic, my previous car was stick and i REALLY need to go back. I am weighing the options between doing a trade-in or buying the parts and doing the swap myself. I looked at kbb and my Trade-in Value is about $23,590 is Excellent condition, which amazes me since i bought the car for $22,999 when it has 29k mi on it (it has 32k now i think) so i go to autotrader and look up the whole instant trade-in offer deal and the "TRUE" or "More Realistic" trade in value according to them is freaking $14,500 wtf?!!?

If i stay optomistic and someone really is willing to give me $23 trade in for my automatic and i put that towards the closest option if found on Autotrader, ( a 2008 TL-S 6speed black/black with 27k miles @ $27,000 i am looking at a loss of about 3 grand or more, given the taxes tag and title, but since the car is in california and i am in florida do i save on taxes? I know i am rambling a bit, but i am trying to see what you guys believe is the most cost effective do-able option for attaining a 6-speed versus the automatic i currently have. The 6-speed tranny in our Type-S's are NOT the same as the base model 6-speed and i can not find tranny or part number to do more research anywhere. Can you guys help me out?

Hi speed

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I think the 6 speed is the same for both the type-s and base MT, except for the bell housing. I doubt they would change too much when the type-s makes only 25 hp more than the base except a way to make it work with the 3.5 liter.

As far as the swap, I think you will be way better off both financialy and time wise to do the trade in. The only downside I see to the trade in is wear and tear, because those who buy performance model cars are many times much harder on the car. The 6 speed is very much worth it for feel and performance, but doing the swap is going to cost a lot of time and money.

CubanLynx84

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I think libert69 is doing the swap himself. Check his threads he was making a checklist for all the parts that are needed to do. It didn't seem like a lot last time I saw the thread. I was interested in going back into manual too or finding a 6spd tls. The only the reason I got the 5at was because my last job I was constantly running in and out manhattan and it got tiring in my integra shifting light to light. Now with my new job I hop on the train so that's what's making me want a manual again. Plus I know my wife won't try to drive it as well hehe! But dollars to cents it might be cheaper actually doing the swap the trading cars because you also have to factor in the change in insurance as well, if there is any at that. I know the gauges can be reprogrammed with you current mileage to the 6spd cluster too that's a plus rather then trying to figure the differences back in the day.

emilio320

Yes his thread is precisely why i was even considering the swap, since it did not seem too hard to do. I think the hardest part is gonna be finding the actualy type-s 6-speed tranny. i doubt i will ever find one, especially since i dont know the damn part # . I guess i will just have to wait and see because the only way to not lose a ton of money trading my car in is by finding a 6-speed tl-s that is around 80k miles and that HARD to do knowing my baby only has 32k miles

CubanLynx84

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Check eBay and Craigslist constantly. The biggest score is the tranny itself. Also check every junkyard possible. If I every come up on one I'd probably take the plunge and do it.

TmaX

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I would opt for trade in for the tax savings on the Type-S purchase.
The Type-S is definitely the setup with performance in mind.

I felt a big difference right away with the beefed up sway bars and firmer suspension it has over a base one.

Having traded up now I would advise anyone who has any inclination to mod the car get the Type-S.
I find that is responds better than the base to mods and overall has a more balanced feel right away.

k1x

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^+1...i went from a base to a type-s wish i found a 6mt though...

CubanLynx84

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what tax savings would be saved? and even if he did save on taxes he's still losing 3k+/- on trading up to a type s plus not to mention the fact that his insurance would go up a bit since he would be getting into a performance minded car now.

emilio320

what do you guys mean trading UP to a type-s? lol i ALREADY HAVE Type-S BUT its an Auto type-s and i want a 6mt type s, so its a choice between trading an auto type s for a manual type s or doing the tranny swap myself

cokorote

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Hey OP, I'm also located in Miami and I'm in the exactly the same situation as you. Its very hard to search the perfect 6mt TL in Miami.

I love my TL which is the original Aspec and black on black with Navi and my TL is in excellent condition and I would lose 4k in trading up my 5at for 6mt version. This is huge loss for me and that why I'm leaning to do the swap but I think I would wait until my at transmission died on me so I can do the swap.

emilio320

yea its looking like that's the most sensible thing to do right now, pay the car off a bit more and wait for the tranny to die

paperboy42190

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nope, you pay the taxes at wherever your address is located at.

CubanLynx84

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I know that, he brought up the subject of trading. I forgot to add to that post afterwards that the thread was mainly about doing the swap

vp55

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Has anyone swapped out an auto TL-S to a 6MT?

JD TL-S

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Trade it in. DONT modify it.

TmaX

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Sales tax on a new car purchase...
When you trade the cost of the trade is subtracted and tax is only calculated on the difference.
The difference in premiums between the vehicles is probably negligible to say the least.
Unless of course you are already considered a risk due to tickets etc...


Just trade up for the 6MT I doubt anyone who has ever done so regretted.
I can thoroughly say I enjoy my car much more in its 6MT form.

Life is about finances and managing your money but at the same time you should enjoy it.
For some people they would prefer to keep the extra couple grand in a bank account.
Other's will trade in their car and see the value in gained utility of driving a 6MT vs a 5AT.

CubanLynx84

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He already has a type s as he stated before. He also noted a loss of 3k+/- the swap in trannys would probably be more cost sufficient. Just wait another year or do I bet those trannys will be popping up. But again keep checking libert69's thread to see how much it cost him too to get a better idea.

TmaX

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My bad I re-read my original post and totally goofed by writing Type S instead of Type S 6MT.

I would still say better to trade up than do the swap but I'm biased
Even if he doesn't go with this particular 6MT but another one down the line.

OP if you haven't already done so take the Type S 6MT for a test drive and get back to us

CubanLynx84

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The type s 6mt he found is in Cali. He's in Florida. I think he said he couldn't find any in Fl at the moment.

JD TL-S

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2007 NBP Type-S manual with 63,000 miles for $26,900 in Florida, on Cars.com. Saw it yesterday.