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Old 08-03-2009, 02:04 PM
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Tsx v-6

Anyone willing to trade their TLS in for one? 280bhp @ 6200rpm / 254 lb-ft @5000 rpm. 0-60 6.1 sec 1/4 mile 14.7 @ 97mph - cost? $38,760.00 I'm getting this out of C&D for what it's worth. I think I will keep my TLS since its paid for.
Old 08-03-2009, 02:18 PM
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why would you? you trade in for a lesser car while losing money.
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I personally think it is crazy it will be 38K
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I wouldn't even trade my TL for one.
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Plus it's slower that the '04 A-Spec manual that Car and Driver tested in May 2004. With that one, they managed a 0-60 run in 5.6 seconds with a quarter mile of 14.3 seconds at 99 MPH.
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2010 TSX V-6 - Base Price $35,500, only available with 5-speed flappy-paddle automatic gearbox.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
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In the high $30's I don't think a TSX is competitive, in the high $20's to low $30's I think it's in the ball game. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think a V6 was a mistake for the TSX, I think the K23 turbo used in the RDX is the more likely engine choice for a faster TSX, but apparently the engineers(or bean counters) at Acura did not agree.
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Originally Posted by iTimmy
In the high $30's I don't think a TSX is competitive, in the high $20's to low $30's I think it's in the ball game. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think a V6 was a mistake for the TSX, I think the K23 turbo used in the RDX is the more likely engine choice for a faster TSX, but apparently the engineers(or bean counters) at Acura did not agree.
turbo 4 would have been better, plus at 38k its a no go for me
Old 08-03-2009, 04:32 PM
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no f'king way. fail acura.
Old 08-03-2009, 05:11 PM
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I wouldn't even trade my TL for one.
I might consider trading for a TSX if it is a decently exciting car that doesn't weigh more than 3800 lbs.

I actually went to look at the TSX V6 on Friday afternoon, but didn't drive it as there was only a black one which I wouldn't buy. The TSX V6 offers additional HP compared to my '05 TL, and is slightly shorter. However, the TSX is a smidgen heavier than the 3G TL, and the interior does not seem as nice. The TSX Navi and controls are decent looking, compared to the 4G TL controls.

The 6M G37 sedan and 335i (6M and auto) didn't thrill me at their $40K-$44K price points (boy, those interiors seem boring, even w/Nav, compared to the 3G TL).
The TSX V6 w/Tech @ $38K isn't bad seen in that light, assuming it drives decently-- it seems positioned to be the 3G TL replacement.
I wouldn't consider a 4G TL due to its bloated move up-market.

I dunno-- I'll need to drive the TSX V6 first.
Old 08-03-2009, 05:27 PM
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for 38k I'll keep my type-s!! I thought about it for a split second then came back to reality!!
Old 08-03-2009, 05:40 PM
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I on the same page with most of you guys. 38K is no go for a V6 TSX. Acura really failed this one
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I'll test drive just for laughs. I would never trade my car for that when my car is paid off and is in wonderful condition. That price is way too high. Also wheres the 6 speed. I think it's a good car. Looks better than the new TL to me, but its just not exciting enough. However I do believe that car will hurt sales of the 4G TL.
Old 08-03-2009, 06:02 PM
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i definitely would not. slower, heavier, auto, ugly interior - did they do the suspension? probably not. unfortunately i think acura is losing their way a bit, especially with the new sedan styling...hopefully they'll come to their senses by the time i want to trade in for the V8 TSX full-size sedan...
Old 08-03-2009, 06:06 PM
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the orriginal plan last year was a tsx type-s with the rdx engine and drivetrain. AWD turbo 4cylinder would have been alot better than the v6. I work for acura and dont see us selling to many of these cars
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I would never trade my car for the V6 TSX. It's heavier, slower, and not as sporty looking. Only plus; it looks better than the 4G, nice navi, and has 3.5L block. Other than that, never.
Old 08-03-2009, 06:15 PM
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No go for me, there are other cars I'd rather have at that price point, unless they offer some kind of incentives to bring that price down. Also the fact that there is no manual is another reason I probably wouldn't consider it.

P.S. Isn't it retarded that the TSX now weighs even more than the 3G TL?
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I'm not sure what I'd buy if I was getting rid of the Typs S.

The G37 isn't a bad car, but once you add on the options it gets expensive. I got really tired of hearing a G series was "cheaper" than the TL-S I bought. It wasn't. After you added the navi package and other things to a G to bring the equpt level up to the TL-S, it was well over $40k. Infiniti wasn't willing to budge on price either, was close to full sticker. I paid $33,200 for the Type S, sticker was $38,900 I think.

The Lexus IS is to small for me, and the options packages on it aren't cheap either. I really like the Lexus GS series, even though the ride is soft, but when you add some options onto those cars they are over $50k.

Doesn't seem like there is much out there for me as a replacement for the Type S at the moment. The V6 TSX isn't a bad concept, but it's slow and heavy for a car that isn't very large.
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do not want.
Old 08-04-2009, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by chill_dog
I wouldn't even trade my TL for one.
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jack the ex-cynic
i definitely would not. slower, heavier, auto, ugly interior - did they do the suspension? probably not. unfortunately i think acura is losing their way a bit, especially with the new sedan styling...hopefully they'll come to their senses by the time i want to trade in for the V8 TSX full-size sedan...
Losing their way? Yeah pretty much thought so too.
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I wouldn't trade either, but I do agree that the turbo engine would have been a better match for the tsx. Although I hate that so many Acura models come with awd, I don't need that here in Florida and I'd much rather have the higher mpg of a 2wheel drive.
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Why would I trade my 08 TL-S for the 10 TSX V6 when I paid 32K for the TL-S and the TSX is going to be 38K?
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Originally Posted by PhilB81
I wouldn't trade either, but I do agree that the turbo engine would have been a better match for the tsx. Although I hate that so many Acura models come with awd, I don't need that here in Florida and I'd much rather have the higher mpg of a 2wheel drive.
I'm not sure about the turbo engine a better choice. Don't know how much the RDX weight, but the turbo engine would struggle with the extra weight. Unless the turbo is upgraded. If it had a similar output as the 335i, then we can talk.
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Too expensive for what it is, plus it has the same fugly nose as the 4G TL and no manual transmission. No thanks.
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looks better than the 4G TL, but didnt realize how slow they are... dogh..
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i started liking the new tl a lot more i dont think the tsx would hurt it's sales
Old 08-04-2009, 12:15 PM
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3G TL-S forever!

It's not perfect (all the rattles)..., no 7-speed manual, nor 6-speed automatic, no rear drive, neither AWD...

However among cars out there, it has the best design, good interior space, powerful enough...

And most gadgets comes standard...

I wouldn't trade in for current ACURA's designs, which are FUGLY!!!
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The only way I would get rid of my TL is if I was getting another S2000 Honda For Life
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definitely a no go, the bean counters at acura better take their heads out of there ass for this one or go back to their sand boxes and rethink their strategy, at $38k, its very close at getting an IS350 with comparable options.
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prior to the 2010 tsx v6 release, i kept hearing rumors that it was going to be super quick and even faster than 08 TL type s. I guess it was false rumor. Glad i have my 08 TL type s.
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I had a new 2009 TSX loaner (not the V6) the other day when I took my wife's car in for service. The car just felt cheap and I didn't like anything about the interior including the Navigation. I will just have to keep my TL-S for many years and hope that Acura sees the error in their current designs. If not, I will probably be looking at a different brand. The TL-S is my sixth Honda vehicle and could possibly be my last.
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So they slapped on a bigger engine, slightly better brakes and bigger wheels and called it a day. What did I tell ya? With that suspension and steering it's accidents waiting to happen.
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Originally Posted by t0talacuratl
I'm not sure about the turbo engine a better choice. Don't know how much the RDX weight, but the turbo engine would struggle with the extra weight. Unless the turbo is upgraded. If it had a similar output as the 335i, then we can talk.
well, part of the weight, is the heavier V6 engine vs teh 4banger. The reason why i thought a turbo would be cool is for the tuning possibilities, and i personally like the sound of the turbo and i enjoy messing around with the lag. I only drove 4 turbo cars Volvo S70 T5, Audi A6 2.7T, a 335i coupe 6mt and a 1995 eagle talon TSI AWD [which had a turbo upgrade, intercooler, injectors, fuel pump, engine management,etc] and with the Talon specifically, it was pretty fun to cruize on the highway and just get on it, and when that turbo would spool up, man that was fun!
Old 08-04-2009, 01:17 PM
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Losing their way? Yeah pretty much thought so too.
OT but that girl in your avatar is gorgeous. do us all a favor and fix it to be upright
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not to mention a turbo tsx would be right alongside a genesis killer and a 3series competitor
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Originally Posted by PhilB81
well, part of the weight, is the heavier V6 engine vs teh 4banger. The reason why i thought a turbo would be cool is for the tuning possibilities, and i personally like the sound of the turbo and i enjoy messing around with the lag. I only drove 4 turbo cars Volvo S70 T5, Audi A6 2.7T, a 335i coupe 6mt and a 1995 eagle talon TSI AWD [which had a turbo upgrade, intercooler, injectors, fuel pump, engine management,etc] and with the Talon specifically, it was pretty fun to cruize on the highway and just get on it, and when that turbo would spool up, man that was fun!
I'm with you there....I had a 99 eclipse AWD with the same set up. I miss the hell out of it, but the tranny was killing me financially!

Yes I'm sure with an efficient turbo/s, support mods, and a good tune; it would be pretty nasty. An LSD would be a must though.
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Originally Posted by dj5
I had a new 2009 TSX loaner (not the V6) the other day when I took my wife's car in for service. The car just felt cheap and I didn't like anything about the interior including the Navigation. I will just have to keep my TL-S for many years and hope that Acura sees the error in their current designs. If not, I will probably be looking at a different brand. The TL-S is my sixth Honda vehicle and could possibly be my last.
I agree with you, my family [including uncle and cousin] has been huge honda fans. Over the years we've owned 9 Hondas, and we still own 6 now [08 TL-typeS, 04 Accord v6 coupe, 04 Accord v6 sedan, 06 s2000, 98 TypeR, 91 integra SCCA ITA club racer] and we've been really happy with all of them. But next year we're going to think about replacing my wife's Accord Coupe, and honestly there isn't one current honda product we like, except the S2k, and the Acura MDX. And neither of those are really what we wanted as her replacement, just because the s2k is too small [want 4 doors], and the MDX is too pricey, bad fuel economy, useless awd in Florida, and we don't need something 'that' big.

Before I had seen the new 09 TSX and heard rumors of a v6 or perhaps the RDX's turbo engine, I was excited, my wife and I thought we found her next car, but then it appeared at the dealerships. Looks wise the TSX isn't too bad in my opinion, although I'm not the biggest fan of the knob controlling the navy [mostly esthetics wise]. But the ride/noise on the highway felt a little sub-par for a 30k+ vehicle.

come on honda, get it together!
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Originally Posted by t0talacuratl
I'm with you there....I had a 99 eclipse AWD with the same set up. I miss the hell out of it, but the tranny was killing me financially!

Yes I'm sure with an efficient turbo/s, support mods, and a good tune; it would be pretty nasty. An LSD would be a must though.
Oh, man, that talon had 0 problems power train wise... the radio didn't really work unless you pressed your knee against it, and you never knew if the windows were going to roll back up. On hot days at Autocrosses the powersteering wouldn't keepup, so it was a pain to turn that wheel, but it ran really well. Also the 95 Talon was built in the 1st half of 95 where they had a VC rear LSD. btw it was a 5spd manual, not sure if they came with autoz.

edit; lol i just get it, you meant LSD for the TSX
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OK, just to clear up some misinformation for the research-challenged here.

The new V-6 TSX is NOT $38,000.

It is $35,660 base (destination included), and only $38,760 (destination included) when ordered with the Technology Package which carries Navigation, GPS linked climate control (?), Realtime Traffic and Weather, Surround sound + 6-CD Changer, and a backup camera.

The TSX base V-6 model weighs 3,680 lbs. vs 3,470 lbs. for the 4-cyl 5AT TSX.

The TSX V-6 DOES get massaged suspension settings, with firmer front springs and revised damper rates. Sway bars appear to be the same as the 4-cyl. version.

Carry on.


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