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Old 09-19-2010, 10:14 AM
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Hey guys, I've got an idiot of a friend who will find anything to be my TL. He thinks that a Mini Clubman S, 6 spd. 07 328i coupe, and auto 04 330i can all beat me. Talks trash all day about it. I don't know how my car would fair with any of these to be honest, so what do you guys think? No racing will go on...I just want to know how I compare.
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The Clubman S 6MT does low 15s
The 07 328 6MT does 14.6ish
The 04 330i 5AT does 14.8s.

I'd have to say the Clubman will be close and the others will probably walk away from you.
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what does he drive?
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He himself drives an old Tacoma...he just finds random cars and tries to be "that guy who will find something wrong with your things" Tonight he threw in a 08 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro.
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you should race his tacoma to shut him up
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Sounds like your idiot drank a bottle of Haterade. Just flash him a 'whatever' hand gesture and don't pay Tacoma-man any more mind.

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Old 09-20-2010, 06:34 AM
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ignore him or tell him to get a better car then talk.
Old 09-20-2010, 12:31 PM
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Dude, get a new friend.
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Lol...I do all the time. He is the biggest idiot ever. He calls his Tacoma a "sport truck" and claims the Clubman S is a German sports car. Also, I don't really care about racing, but I just wanted to know. Keep in mind these are all driven by people my age as well. I think I'd keep up with all of these, especially after I get my j-pipe...
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Dude, get a new friend.
He is more of a friend of a good friend of mine. He is just mad cuz he wants the v6 stang and my car will walk that.
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not the new v6 stang....
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Lol I defanetly disagree! You would walk all of them without any problems. Thats comming from expearience not 1/4 mile mag. racing.
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The Clubman S 6MT does low 15s
The 07 328 6MT does 14.6ish
The 04 330i 5AT does 14.8s.

I'd have to say the Clubman will be close and the others will probably walk away from you.
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IMO you should take the Clubman down no problem, 330i will probably walk away from you. Same power, but it's RWD so it will get quite a better launch. I think the 328 should be a close race, but you might edge out with your mods.

I see some people on here that are much more experienced with this stuff, so I'll shut up now
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
not the new v6 stang....
Not the new ones...the ugly 07 body style...
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
The Clubman S 6MT does low 15s
The 07 328 6MT does 14.6ish
The 04 330i 5AT does 14.8s.

I'd have to say the Clubman will be close and the others will probably walk away from you.
No way. I have an 02 TLS and ran a 14.7 at 3700+#.
Mini-you win hands down.
330-close, but your bolt ons should help if he is stock
328 he likely wins with the MT.

Hell, Mark has a bolted 2nd gen and is in the low 14's. Take em down to Motorplex and run them.
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I think I will Peter. I think I would be able to take the 328i only because he is just learning manual, and won't have good shifts down. Although, as I said, all the kids in my school with these cars don't want to race, and I don't want to race. He is just some instigator. I'll get him to drive his dad's Clubman S and show him up...
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Tell him to race you in his Tacoma. Then as you're pulling, let off, then get back on it. Do this until about 70mph then just keep it punched and pull 'til 85 ish or so. Then when he says "Dude I almost had you....." Smoke 'em
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I wouldn't waste my time racing them. They can say all they want, but it doesn't change anything
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I agree with not racing them, but at the same time...showing him off would be badass.
Old 09-20-2010, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Aman
I wouldn't waste my time racing them. They can say all they want, but it doesn't change anything
You would race your time racing if you had 6 gears and 6 cylinders
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the 328i and 330i will walk away from the TL

tell your friend to even have a car as nice as the TL. Thats it..lmao
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Originally Posted by TylerT
You would race your time racing if you had 6 gears and 6 cylinders
Stop rubbing it in
Old 09-21-2010, 12:45 PM
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Standing behind your friends' cars is as gay as it gets in racing. I could have 2 Shelbys out there walk anything & everything in your school's lot if I instigated enough, but they're not my cars & I don't drink from the Haterhade bottle.

Tell him it's "Run what you brung" or shut up.
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Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
Standing behind your friends' cars is as gay as it gets in racing. I could have 2 Shelbys out there walk anything & everything in your school's lot if I instigated enough, but they're not my cars & I don't drink from the Haterhade bottle.

Tell him it's "Run what you brung" or shut up.
that is why open night at motorplex is a great way to shut them up legally.
Old 09-22-2010, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Blazing GT
the 328i and 330i will walk away from the TL

tell your friend to even have a car as nice as the TL. Thats it..lmao
I've beat both of those in my stock 5at TL. Surprising, but it did happen a while back.
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Originally Posted by Blazing GT
the 328i and 330i will walk away from the TL

tell your friend to even have a car as nice as the TL. Thats it..lmao
My buddy has a 09 328i.. albeit an auto.. but I walked it easily. We did a couple of rolls and it wasn't even close.
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Majofo don't you have a type-S? correct me if I am wrong
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Nope.. measly 04 slushbox.
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havent come across a mini but i beat 328i auto coupe and a 330ci manual before.
the 328i was easy and i only had just a intake and exhaust at that time.
the 330 was a lil harder because he was manual but i pulled on him slowly. when i raced that i had all the mods in my sig plus a passenger.

overall i think ud beat all those cars seeing that your car isnt stock either.
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I think I would have a fair change against all of them. What do you think about the Audi 2.0T Quattro in 6MT? I have a friend who just got one, of course of I would beat him now, since he hasn't mastered it....but what if an average stick driver had it?

Also, he is trying to tell me that he is getting an air intake for it that gives it 73HP...I don't know why he would embarrass himself like that....
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I have a friend with a 04 TSX and an Short Air Intake. Never race with me but he said that he can walk my 5AT 07. I agree that talking mean nothing.
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^thats pretty funny.
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Originally Posted by d-townhakuzo
I think I would have a fair change against all of them. What do you think about the Audi 2.0T Quattro in 6MT? I have a friend who just got one, of course of I would beat him now, since he hasn't mastered it....but what if an average stick driver had it?

Also, he is trying to tell me that he is getting an air intake for it that gives it 73HP...I don't know why he would embarrass himself like that....
Uh, no, not gonna happen. The best air intakes on the market will only offer 20Hp on average, & these are intakes built for Z06s, Dinan M3s, etc.

Anything offering more is going to be built as high priced part intended for race cars.
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Originally Posted by boyhamdzui
I have a friend with a 04 TSX and an Short Air Intake. Never race with me but he said that he can walk my 5AT 07. I agree that talking mean nothing.
damn i hate shit talkers i have a buddy at my work that thinks all these VW cars can beat me even instock form like the golf gti and r32. and some other 2.0T dont remember which one. thinks just because it has stock turbo itll eat my car

anyways the tsx should be a piece of cake
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OP have you considered that your freind "trash talks" your TL just to bug the shit out of you? And if it does, I guess he "wins".


When you're 16. I guess that kind of thing matters. When you grow up, not so much. Let him be the little kid and you can be mature.
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Originally Posted by d-townhakuzo
I think I would have a fair change against all of them. What do you think about the Audi 2.0T Quattro in 6MT? I have a friend who just got one, of course of I would beat him now, since he hasn't mastered it....but what if an average stick driver had it?

Also, he is trying to tell me that he is getting an air intake for it that gives it 73HP...I don't know why he would embarrass himself like that....
Only thing that will give hime that much horsepower is an APR chip, but thats running 93 octane, and even then, thats crank hp. The intakes for those cars, even the Corbonio, dont dont do shit but make the turbo a little louder.

A stock 2.0T you can beat, especially if its quattro.
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Originally Posted by AtlM5
Lol I defanetly disagree! You would walk all of them without any problems. Thats comming from expearience not 1/4 mile mag. racing.
Amen, I'm stock with the exception of;
- intake resonator delete
- mid muffler delete
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I've walked away from a 328i.
Pulled a car on a 330ci.
The Mini honestly should not be a problem.
I've never played with an A4, but I've beat a stock '09 GTI. They're similar as far the motor goes, right?
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Those 2.0Ts can be torque beasts with a proper flash. An intake IMO won't change much as far as results
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Fail. This kid is 16 years old. Get some seat time, my friend! Then the #'s dont exactly mean as much as before...lol. There is no substitution for experience and seat time. Trust me....you at 16...and me at 43 with the seat time I have....I could likely take you on course in a Miata...lol.

And take some advise from an old man....YOUR CAR IS ALWAYS SLOW! Keep repeating that to yourself till it becomes a pat response. (I will explain further)

The whole jist is to get under your skin...as already mentioned by somebody on here. Tell em its slow as balls and there isnt much more to say, is there? Oddly enough....then they will likely take the opposite tact and begin to try to tell you that your car is worthy. You dont assign worthiness to yourself or your car.....others do. When you do....they tend to want to debate that fact with you. Just tell em its slow as all get out....yep! Then when the time comes...lay the smack down.

No kidding...if you ever ask me if my car is fast....I would tell you nope....its slower than all get out! Wanna race? Do you see the preceived hint of confidence there? Thats about 90% of the brain game racers will try to hit you with....dont admit JACK. Car's slow...yep! You are young....but its all about what makes YOU happy...not some other kid that is just smack talking with a Tacoma trying to rain on your parade. The faster you take that tact....the faster you are likely to gain the respect you seek! Dont uptalk your ride....let others do that for you. It means 500% more than you assigning that to yourself and trying to sell them on that fact.
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^^^ Very well said Michael

Although, the newer Taco's are pretty torquey


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