I was talking to a salesman at my last visit to the dealership and he told me that he took an RL and another salesman took a TL on the highway and of course the TL got out of the hole faster, but he claims once they got over 100 mph he blew past the TL. I guess the 270 horses couldn't hold off the 300 from the RL for long. He didn't tell me what their top speed ended up being but I at least would think that the TL would come back past the RL's 137 top speed. I really don't know why they took the cars out for in the first place. Maybe it was a sales pitch to get me to trade my TL in for an RL.

 

lol crazy salesmen, i wouldn't buy from them b/c that just goes to prove they don't give a shit about the break in periods.

 

This isn't shocking to me. I've had a loaner RL for a week and a half and it takes it a few seconds to get going, but boy does it get going! It pulls insanely hard from 60+

 

So maybe it was true.

 

And WHY are salesmen driving these cars at such speeds?

When I got the '03 TL I made sure it had fewer than 5 miles on the odometer and still had plastic wrapping on it. I didnt want morons such as these salesmen getting their hands on my car.

 

You never know. When I bought my 03 TL Type S I had 42 miles on it. Where did they come from? I don't know. But when I bought my 04 TL it only had 12 miles on it. If they took the route I think they took it's only about a 5-7 mile run. So I guess they could run your car before you buy it and you'll never know it. It will still have low miles but that's bad for the new engine. So I thought about the next Acura dealership which is about 70 miles away in Baton Rouge. But I also remember when the TL Type S came out in 01 as an 02 model I went to the dealership to check it out and a salesperson (lady) took me for a spin. I did not drive. I was about to graduate from college and I was just browsing. Anyway she rung that Type S out and I was like I have to get one of these, but at the time I wasn't thinking hey she's ruining this car. The story doesen't stop there. That dealership is an Acura dealership with an Infiniti dealership right next to it owned by the same person. So we hopped into a brand new Q45 and maaaaaan when I tell you she drove the hell out of that car. And we are talking about $55,000 car. She told me that her dad was a race car driver for years and it rubbed off on her and that she constantly goes to the track. Anyway I guess what I am saying is that it's unfortunate but we never really know where those miles on our new cars came from no matter what they tell us and if they are only 5, 12, 42, ect. Of course the fewer the miles is still better.

 

Some stupid Mazda salesman told me he had to drive the car off the lot (Rx-8), so he started it, then immediately took of, redlining it through 1st and second on a dead cold engine. The poor car had like 50 miles on it...then when we came back, he tried to get me to buy that particular car. No way...loser.

 

BG74 I have a better story. Back when ACURA first came out (86?). I stopped to look at a new Integra. Went for a short ride with the salesman. He said the engine is bullet proof and proceeded to wind 1st and 2nd 1000 PAST redline on a cold engine. I still can not believe he was that stupid.

 

Too funny.........

 

Interesting. Surprising. I'm assuming that TL was a 5AT and not the 6MT.

Even then, I figured that a runoff between both would be pretty even until the RL hits its 134mph governor.


Acura RL - C/D December 2004
ACCELERATION Seconds
Zero to 30 mph 2.4
40 mph: 3.5
50 mph: 5.1
60 mph: 6.7
70 mph: 8.6
80 mph: 11.3
90 mph: 14.1
100 mph: 17.1
110 mph: 21.8
120 mph: 29.3
130 mph: 40.2
Street start, 5-60 mph: 7.8
Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 4.4
50-70 mph: 5.4
Standing 1/4-mile: 15.2 sec @ 94 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 134 mph


I havent seen any published times for the 5AT TL but here's a quote from Car & Driver on the TL-S (which I pressume puts out similar numbers to the 5AT TL):
....the numbers generated by the Type-S: 60 in 6.2 seconds, 100 in 16.0, and the quarter-mile in 14.8 at 96 mph.

 

i was at the nissan dealer last night and he was like so yea the Z can do 187 avg going around a track so it can definately top out above 200. what a dipshit. They dont know anything.

 

Thank you! Now I dont have to do that!

 

saleman lie all the time. I don't blieve their stories.

 

It is extremely unlikely that the RL is faster than the TL at high speeds.

 

I've gotten the priviledge of driving a pretty well broken in 05 RL. Comparing it to my TL-S, I know i'd definitely beat it til 70. But like some previous poster said, that RL changes face completely past 70. Its as if the added weight no longer becomes a factor and those 300 horses and 260lbft of torque really help it pull HARD from that speed. My TL pulls from 70, but the RL pulls HARD from that speed. Thats the difference. Can't speak on the new 6MT TL though. My guess is that 0-140 the 6MT would win, because it would have such a lead by 70 and the rl wouldnt make it up in time (it would be close). But from a roll, I wouldnt suggest testing one of those RLs, she is FAST. Wish I could have one..., that SH-AWD eats exit ramps like Pac-Man eats dots.

 

yeap, these salesmen are crazy. We bought a 2004 grand cherokee limited V8 from nelson autogroup. They had to deliver the car about 30 miles becuase it was at a different dealership and told us to pick it up the following day. They said the odometer had about 50 miles on it. When we got it, it has 300 some miles. It was pretty obvious they took it around and did burnouts and stuff in it.

 

It pulls like mad from those speeds. I was passing a car doing about 50, and I gave it WOT...

<- My face.

 

...i've seen it done -_-

 

WOW!! This is a massive thread resurrection.

 

Wait so a RL > TL from a roll?

 

I don't think that's the case, the RL traps at 95mph, which is slightly slower than a 2nd gen TL-S/3rd gen TL AT.

 

TL from roll. But then when RL passes it it will slow down to 130 while tl is still climbing to 150.

 

Exactly. Someone with some sense. If the RL was truely a topend monster above 60mph, it's 1/4 trap speeds would be high compared to it's ET (ie it gets off the line slow then comes alive). The RL is a 93-94mph in the 1/4 mile. There is absolutely no indication that the car has wild topend acceleration. Now if it showed 15.2@100mph, then yes, I'd believe it. Otherwise, no. It performs no better than a 5MT 95-99 Maxima

 

The RL might have more hp, but it's also much heavier than a TL, its power to weight ratio is worse than my car. And the AWD system further robs away power. With all that said, the RL remains one of my dream cars, besides the NSX-R for its understated luxury appearance (with the A-spec kit it's stunning IMO), features, handling, and rarity.

 

 

actually, i think it depends on the driver. i took a fellow ziner from a dig...he had me by 1/4 of a car lengths, then i managed to pull...

 

yea, they are pretty much identical.

 

i would not buy an RL to race anyway

 

Did buy an RL....and let me tell you it hauls more ass than the TL any day!

RL FTMFW

 

Sure it does because it's bigger.....lol.

It might keep up with a TL 5AT, but at 300hp and 4000+lbs/AWD/automatic, it'll get left far behind by a TL6MT or either transmissioned Type-S.

 

The power to weight ratios of both cars are very close - obviously the more powerful RL has more weight. But keep in mind that the perception of acceleration has nothing to do with how fast it is actually accelerating. Case in point is comparing a manual Corvette to an automatic - they will run the same in a 1/4 mile (auto may be faster actually), but the manual feels so much faster. Same goes for loud cars vs. quiet ones.

One more thing that would have a big impact on acceleration is gearing - the RL may be geared lower (4.75:1) than a TL (4.4:1) with the extra TQ of the 3.5L may in fact feel faster.

 

The power to weight ratio may be close if you're using crank numbers, but not so close using WHP numbers. The RL's AWD eats up ridiculous amounts of power.

 

I can vouch, my mother used to have an 05 RL. The RL was a dog from 0-60 even from a 60 punch, it just didn't have the kick like the TL, one reason was the tranny does pick the best gear. It will use 4th instead of 3rd.

But back to my story, I was behind a new Maxima we both hit it, he took off leaving the RL behind but as soon we hit 80+ the RL becomes a pretty strong car. I ended making up the ground the Maxima had and putting 2 lenghts on him. It was so bad I thought the driver in the Maxima shut down early so we did he 3 or 4 more times and same outcome. Even with the Maxima having a 2 car lenght lead, the RL yanks him right back in.

I ran the same generation Maxima in my TL and whoever got the initial jump won the race even past 100. So RL is faster.