TL vs TL Type S at the Dragstrip
#41
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This
#45
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Get that mod done to the car.
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/113-removal-slave-cylinder-check-valve-734300/
Some answers or experiences
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/all-those-whove-done-slave-cylinder-mod-questions-888458/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/113-removal-slave-cylinder-check-valve-734300/
Some answers or experiences
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/all-those-whove-done-slave-cylinder-mod-questions-888458/
#46
Get that mod done to the car.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=734300
Some answers or experiences
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=888458
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=734300
Some answers or experiences
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=888458
If I decide to keep the car I'll definitely do that.
#47
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Atco is only fast because of the available conditions IMO. On a normal day, it's any other track. Most stock 6spd TLs will see 97-98mph. If you're seeing that @3000ft, then maybe your track is fast lol.
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LVD is a terrible track, I regularly trap about 3-4 miles an hour higher at Atco in other cars I've owned. I could easily see 100 in the TL there. The track prep at Atco is phenomenal.
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With all due respect just go do it & post the time slip.
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"14.6@98 was my best tonight in the '08 TLS 6spd, so stock it hurts. Got six runs in tonight at LVD. Beat my buddies Mazdaspeed3 two out of three. Beat a mustang (My first, and def not last), and got beat by a 11.8 turbo integra twice. 2.4 60ft."
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So you think my traps are over-inflated 3-4mph? Because I went 103-104 @ Island drag in 1300ft DA before my 4" CAI...
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Yep, a good bit of ignorance over at focusst.org. The problem is it's a lot of American-make diehards becoming freshly new ricers.
The WRX is great. It's still stock, motor wise. I hope it treats me remotely as good as the G35 did.
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There's no doubt in my mind that 6MT car could go 100-101mph in 40-50 degree air. Heck, it was doing nearly 98mph is crappy air.
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So he must be a magical driver that traps 2-3mph higher than any other 6MT TL? Dave you're surprising me here. All this time you would argue how modded ones go 101-102 yet now a stock one goes 100-101?
I still haven't heard if he is stock weight....a 'bone' stock Base 6spd won't see 100mph unless the DA is negative. It's very simple. The car would need near 240whp.
I still haven't heard if he is stock weight....a 'bone' stock Base 6spd won't see 100mph unless the DA is negative. It's very simple. The car would need near 240whp.
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#66
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Why do you think that? The density of altitude was over 3,000' on the day the car ran. DA has a HUGE impact on the way a car drives especially an NA one. That low-oxygen air was certainly sucking out power as was some of the heat soak. Over my years of racing at the strip, I've swings of .4-.5 seconds and 4-5mph between running during 95+ degree day with a calculated DA of 5,000'+ vs a 45 degree day with a DA of 500'. Same track and no changes to the car, driving style, etc.
There's no doubt in my mind that 6MT car could go 100-101mph in 40-50 degree air. Heck, it was doing nearly 98mph is crappy air.
There's no doubt in my mind that 6MT car could go 100-101mph in 40-50 degree air. Heck, it was doing nearly 98mph is crappy air.
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^ There also hasn't been another J series short of a swap trap 106+ in the 1/4 either. But I totally admit that it was in negative DA, and am not ashamed one bit to say my car isn't a 106 car, because it's not. I ran against "IAmTaiBoogie" a few times that night, and I'm sure he would quote his times that night (pretty impressive). So I'm fine with saying that. But if someone asked me what my car is capable of I'd say my best time of 13.46 @106.6, but note that was in (-) DA, and that it's more of a 104mph car. I just beat or hang with cars on the street I shouldn't because not everyone can drive....
My point is, I'm sure a bone stock Base TL 6MT could see 100mph in negative DA conditions, but at sea level, it's not happening unless there is some weight reduction. And I think the OPs best 60' was a 2.27...hardly a great 60', yet his corrected time is 13.9? So are we to believe with a 2.1 he would've went 13.6 at sea level in a stock TL? Lol-batross.....
My point is, I'm sure a bone stock Base TL 6MT could see 100mph in negative DA conditions, but at sea level, it's not happening unless there is some weight reduction. And I think the OPs best 60' was a 2.27...hardly a great 60', yet his corrected time is 13.9? So are we to believe with a 2.1 he would've went 13.6 at sea level in a stock TL? Lol-batross.....
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You're focused on the wrong variables and not seeing the big picture.
The car went 98 in awful air on a snow tire.
I could easily see 100 at sea level on a better tire, especially at a track like Atco where the prep is second to none.
I highly doubt no one has ever gone 100mph in a stock TL at the track... even the crappy magazine drivers were doing 14.1 @ 99.
The car went 98 in awful air on a snow tire.
I could easily see 100 at sea level on a better tire, especially at a track like Atco where the prep is second to none.
I highly doubt no one has ever gone 100mph in a stock TL at the track... even the crappy magazine drivers were doing 14.1 @ 99.
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They were trapping 98. Who knows what the conditions were though.
Not one person has gone 100. You still haven't answered the question if you are stock weight.
Not one person has gone 100. You still haven't answered the question if you are stock weight.
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That means full weight.
I haven't even had the TL 2 weeks yet. I bought it from an older guy who kept it in the garage and drove his kids to soccer practice in it.
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Sonnick some peeps have magical cars LOL...
apparently I am one of them....my car goes from 40-80 in under 4 seconds
I need to get some other tool to make sure its right and my phone is not lagging/etc LOL...
apparently I am one of them....my car goes from 40-80 in under 4 seconds
I need to get some other tool to make sure its right and my phone is not lagging/etc LOL...
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Lol yea but dude, you said you ran a FBO Type S and were pretty even. They aren't doing 40-80 in under 4 seconds, I think that device is off. I'm not trying to hate friend, just being honest, because 40-80 in under 4 seconds is modded 5.0 Coyote territory....
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^^^ I totally understand...I will have the wifey tape a run and I will be able to see if it is under 4 seconds or more like 5 seconds....
it was a fully bolted on Type S with Hondata FPO....i had the AC blasting and the wifey with me....not sure how much he was putting down
the only problem with that run is we started at 50-55 if am not mistaken....for a 40-80 run, I usually start at 20-30 mph and go through the gears...not sure if that makes a difference....
it was a fully bolted on Type S with Hondata FPO....i had the AC blasting and the wifey with me....not sure how much he was putting down
the only problem with that run is we started at 50-55 if am not mistaken....for a 40-80 run, I usually start at 20-30 mph and go through the gears...not sure if that makes a difference....
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^ I have no doubts your car is fast my dude! Hopefully you can get on the dyno some day soon. But again, numbers are just numbers unless you have before/after. But it would be nice to know how much you are putting down.
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^^^ true....
funny enough, the local dyno day is on the weekend that am away (talk about timing)....hoping they will push it back by 1 week so I will be able to get a dyno done before 1st week of August....
funny enough, the local dyno day is on the weekend that am away (talk about timing)....hoping they will push it back by 1 week so I will be able to get a dyno done before 1st week of August....
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^^^ I totally understand...I will have the wifey tape a run and I will be able to see if it is under 4 seconds or more like 5 seconds....
it was a fully bolted on Type S with Hondata FPO....i had the AC blasting and the wifey with me....not sure how much he was putting down
the only problem with that run is we started at 50-55 if am not mistaken....for a 40-80 run, I usually start at 20-30 mph and go through the gears...not sure if that makes a difference....
it was a fully bolted on Type S with Hondata FPO....i had the AC blasting and the wifey with me....not sure how much he was putting down
the only problem with that run is we started at 50-55 if am not mistaken....for a 40-80 run, I usually start at 20-30 mph and go through the gears...not sure if that makes a difference....
What is you best et/trap so far?
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I have a fully bolted on, fully gutted 5AT TL....and i got the numbers from Torque PRO....here are some screen shots....yes i was surprised too....
On a FLAT ROAD:
40-60 multiple times 1.8s
60-80 multiple times 1.9s
Total 40-80 3.7s
GOING DOWNHILL....on the highway
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Hi my name is Jordan and I would just like to say that I enjoy long walks on the beach. I also enjoy auto-x tracks where holistic skill with run-of-the-mill, 13.5 - 15 second 1/4 mile cars can be proven, and people don't have time to debate irrelevant drag strip differences because we're all too busy flagging corners and racing our moderately quick, perhaps borderline slow, but never-truly-fast cars.
Get yourself a 10 second RWD car and keep it straight going down the drag strip. Then I will acknowledge skill at driving in a straight line.
Get yourself a 10 second RWD car and keep it straight going down the drag strip. Then I will acknowledge skill at driving in a straight line.
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So he must be a magical driver that traps 2-3mph higher than any other 6MT TL? Dave you're surprising me here. All this time you would argue how modded ones go 101-102 yet now a stock one goes 100-101?
I still haven't heard if he is stock weight....a 'bone' stock Base 6spd won't see 100mph unless the DA is negative. It's very simple. The car would need near 240whp.
I still haven't heard if he is stock weight....a 'bone' stock Base 6spd won't see 100mph unless the DA is negative. It's very simple. The car would need near 240whp.
The norm? No way, but certainly possible.
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Over my years, I've seen at least a bump in 2mph with better 60ft times and getting better 1/4 mile time. That is a near perfect run without slicks. But again, track varies elsewhere in the states so I can't speak to your .5 secs and 4-5 mph. Must means you had a crappy launch and perfected it after many tries to get it down to that time. I like to keep it to that day and not couple months out and say you had a .4 sec off the last run. We all love DA's and night runs with cool air, Fall, and Spring runs are one of the best for track days. Yet, I haven't seen a base 6spd hit that trap yet... bone stock after many years of this car's 3rd Generation.
I'm starting to doubt that many in this thread don't understand what DA means. It has a huge impact on the way a car runs, especially an NA one. Period. Yes, my cars saw swings of up to .5 seconds and 5mph between running on a 90 degree+ humid day and a cool crisp 45 degree day. Same 60 foots, same driving style, track, etc.