So today at work this guys came up to me and say he can spank tl`s all day and he can do circles a round my TL. So i couldn't handle it no more and tell hem put ur money where ur mouth at so we bet for $100 so now im just thinking did i made a mistake or i got the race tomorrow. It`s 04 awd G35 sedan stock vs my 05 TL with just fujita CAI.

 

i dont think theres is such thing as AWD g35 sedan. those things are rwd. and yea those are faster than TL, not sure bout the Type S though.

 

there are awd g35`s and tl-s would definitely walk them but i got 5A/T base TL

 

tomorrow you will be $100 more broke

 

Well i own both '03 g35 6spd sedan and '04 TL 6spd (recent). I just feel a ton of power driving my G and feel it launches way better. RWD go figure huh. I havent go redline with TL but i think G should beat you initially.

But then again, did they say G and TL have same 0-60?

 

They are the g35x and are a sedan, not a coupe. Looking online both cars put down almost identical times so it could be a drivers race. I think if it is not an awd car then you would lose for sure.

 

I had two G35 6MT sedans (an '03.5 and an '04) and they definitely felt quicker than my TL 5AT. I never did any timed runs but the VQ35 engine is very torquey and pulls strongly (it does get rough in the upper revs). I always had problems with hard launches though -- wheelspin through 1st gear (followed by chirps in 2nd and 3rd). Both cars came with all-season tires from the factory and I didn't keep the cars long enough to warrant changing them.

However, an AWD G35 5AT carries a bit more weight and the engine output is less (it was commonly known that the 6MT sedan was tuned similarly to the coupe).

I personally think it would be a close race but would probably bet on the G35 because of the potential for a better launch.

 

I would've bet no more than $5.

 

Hurry up and find a local to swap a J-pipe and some PCD and you'll beat him

 

i know by experience that a 6sp TL will beat the G35x in a heart beat but the AT not sure!!

 

Make sure that G35 is really stock. I say this because I've only had my 07 G35 Sport sedan RWD for 3 weeks and have already discovered a world of things I can do to make my car faster, but with 306 HP stock, I'm leaving mine alone for now. 04 G35 stock vs your 05 tl will be a close race, but make sure like I said that the G is really stock.

 

Infiniti is known to have mOre horses than acura especially stock and if you add performance mods to your Acura u will still be under the horses an Infiniti holds and If they add performance parts u might as well give up............. not to sure of the older model g series I know the newer ones have 330 horse power on the 37 ... All I can say is good luck would love to know if you whoop him or not.........:. I'm a firm believer in it's the driver though ..........tl comes with enough horses and has amazing handling pretty much a good enough balance where if you know your car you could run with he best of em..............keep us posted

 

i have an 05 AT TL and I've beat a few g35's on the highway n on the streets including a MT coupe with exhaust n cai from a red light n i had 2 people in the car with me n a HEAVY ASS system in the trunk n all i had at the time was a CAI n UR pulley so like other people said its prob gna be a drivers race

 

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz1H3hvsguK

According to wiki the g35 sedan weighs in at 3,472 lb (1,575 kg) so adding another 308lbs to account for awd should put the weight at 3,780 lbs compared to the tl's 3,480 lb (1,579 kg) and 258hp, which gives:


I would take out your spare, tools, jack etc and anything else that you can to shed some more weight. It will be a close race but def win-able. Try for a rolling start to remove the awd advantage. Good luck!

 

Well, technically you should compare the TL's pre-'06 power ratings of 270 hp/238 tq, since you're doing it with the G. If Nissan hadn't switched to the rev-up engine in '05, that 261/258 rating would have dropped into the 240's for a horsepower rating, although I suppose it's a moot point since the 03-04' vq35 in the sedan was notoriously underrated anyway.

 

^good point, I didnt catch that.

 

This a topic that's been beaten to death within Acurazine over the years. Granted, these discussions were prevalent when both the 1G G35 and 3G TL were new vehicles....not the used (dubiously maintained) cars most see today.

A G35X should beat an 05 TL 5AT, particularly as the auto tranny in the TL kills much of the TL's performance....which is not as much the case with the AT/AWD setup in the G35X. (Driving the TL 5AT back to back with a TL 6MT reveals a night and day difference.)

 

Didn't know that. I figured the power ratings would've been the same. I have heard that the power rating on the sedan was supposedly tested to be about the same as the coupe.

 

Manufacturers love to play with crank numbers because customers put way too much stock in them actually. GM always did it with the Vettes/Camaros/GN's, as did BMW with the 335i. They can never overshadow their flagship cars. I think the TL-S is a bit underrated as well, considering both the 5AT and 6MT consistently dyno ~30 whp over their base counterparts, yet they're rated at only 28 more crank horsepower.

I think Infiniti figured the coupe buyers were more performance oriented, so they'd mind screw them into thinking they were getting more power than sedan buyers.

 

Too close to call. But you have a chance if you drive competently. I assume this will be in a safe environment and not on city streets.

 

leave VSA on lose everything in your trunk and everything that isnt in the car from the factory.

make sure your oil level is on par and your coolant is on par.

it will be a close race and i wouldnt have bet 100 dollars but it will be a fun challenge. i would do a race from 0-100 and not to 60 because you will be smoked.

the 04g is the pre-HR model and doesnt make as much power as the 06+

 

I have a different opinion about VSA. WHEN wheels start to spin, VSA cuts fuel and applies brake to spinning wheel. It is NOT launch mode in a Porsche.

Be careful what you ask for. Do you want that or would you rather feather the throttle yourself in manual mode?

That's what I mean by driver competence. If I were you, I would practice launches until you see what works best for you.

With VSA off, you will spin the wheels all the way through first and some of second but it is controllable with practice. It's only the first 50 feet or so where it can get dicey with too much spin. After that, just floor it and let it have its head.

All this depends on road/track surface, temperature, elevation, tire pressure. Many variables.

 

Forgot to mention.... losing 120 pounds is like finding 10 more horsepower. Weight is very important to acceleration. Inertia and all. You have a big advantage starting out with about 300 pounds lighter. That's like 20-25 HP. So, empty the car and trunk (as someone already recommended. Remove the spare, jack, tools.)

Now hear this: Sixteen gallons of gas (a full tank) weighs almost 100 pounds. Try to time it so you are almost empty. This will also help keep more weight on the front drive wheels where you need it. Another way of saying this is that the difference between a full tank and empty tank can be half a car length at 60 MPH.

We won't get into YOUR weight or that of your girlfriend. You know where I'm going. Once, I talked an opponent into letting my video guy ride in his back seat to video the race putting 250 pounds into his car. He didn't realize that would make a difference. But ALWAYS be the only one in your car and cut back on the pizza. LOL

 

Agreed Agreed, just like with 02+ 3.5 Maximas......... When that video of that 02 auto stock Max with passenger and recorder pulln on that 04 TL auto from a stop and that Atli SER on that TLS they stopped. Recently it was rash more of them it seems (G series, Maximas, Z's)....ughhh

 

the guy is trying to back up now, i called him up and was like whats good and he was like i need get oil change and blahblahblah..... so I`m like when are we going to race he was like (idk yet ill let u know) and i was like what ever

 

Sounds like he was posting on Infiniti site and they told him he could be in trouble.

 

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I'm coming up to Buffalo Thursday. I'm tempted to cover your $100 bet if you practice with me first.

 

Agreed!

 

Your lucky he pulled out. It is not worth losing 100 bucks over. Bet a beer or something of that nature.

 

only reason i suggested VSA is because he doesnt seem to know much about racing

<--VSA delete

 

Xpditor I think we should try to practice a race lol and ill get some confidants. let me know when u will be around then.

 

If he is the least bit competent, you will lose undoubtedly. While my mom had an 08 with the HR, that thing was FAST. It definitely felt faster than my full bolt on 6MT Accord. Was it? I don't think so, the VQ is just so smooth and has way more torque. Despite the heavier weight, usually a car with more torque will feel faster. I'm sure it would've been a really good race.

With that said, even if you race 0-100 you should lose by over 1 car length. The gap he puts on you from the launch should stay pretty equal throughout the race after 1st gear. You probably won't pull at all.

 

Here's what I found on the Infiniti forums

 

sounds like the op is racing himself

 

 

what a maroon! lol

 

Welllll I say from a 30-40mph roll you'd take him...I'd put money on that race. The Xs are a LOT heavier and with more drivetrain loss the TL should take the cake. Everybody on here acts like there is a 100hp difference between the 6mt and 5at when in reality there is a 15whp difference.

 

In reality, before buying the 6MT I had an '04 5AT...

'04 5AT...15.4@93
vs
'04 6MT...14.3@100

Just not in the same league

 

on 1/8 i did 10.32@74 and definitely im doing a roll race i told him ride a way