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Old 01-29-2008, 08:41 AM
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jeowen, I understand you're "done on this topic" but I was compelled to search C&D archives for an Ocober article comparing the TL-S Automatic to other similar cars. I did find one where the ranking was (as you stated):

1. BMW 330i
2. Audi
3. Acura TL-S
4. G35

That article was a 2nd Gen TL-S from October 2002. Is that the article? Because there is something VERY wrong with the 0-60 and 1/4 mile numbers you are quoting UNLESS they are old model specs.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...-bmw-330i.html

The CURRENT TL-S 5AT does 0-60 in the nieghborhood of 6.2 seconds.

I assume it was just an innocent mistake on your part, not a malicious act of intellectual dishonesty.

It's not about "should the TL-S have quads". The real question is how much would if cost to MODIFY a Base 5 AT (or 6MT) TL Navi to have equal performance to the Stock 5AT (or 6MT) TL-S? If the cost is approx the same as buying the TL-S, then what's the difference?

Some of chose to save on the front end and mod up and some chose to spend on the front end and get the mods "built in". Why is that a problem for you?
Old 01-29-2008, 08:45 AM
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Bearcat94, thank you!

I was scratching my head, and trying to uderstand those numbers of how they are possible!?

Now it makes sense, 2G TL-P stock was not fast at all, with some mods, it can be.

Man oh man, C&D just saved itself from a nasty email, lol.
Old 01-29-2008, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jeowen
Disregard...fellas, i'm done on this topic..to each their own we are supposed to be on the same team be safe
we are on the same team brother...but your comments always come off as being disrespectful....

ie: mighty weak for massive quad exhaust, but you keep enjoying your rides...pick your races wisely...what the f is that...
Old 01-29-2008, 09:58 AM
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ya I don't know what you are talking about with this 0-60 being in the high 7's nonsense. My '07 5AT TLS did 0-60 in 5.9 secs stock w/ 19s on (that was with me timing on a stop watch). You've really got to stop hating in the TLS. You'd be surprised how fast it is. Also, you can mod the regular TL all you want to make it like the TLS. Truth is that it still doesnt come close b/c u can do the same for the TLS and it would still be faster w/ the 3.5.
Old 01-29-2008, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jeowen
Oh believe me..i did. I test drove one and like I said in my previous post.. I chose the TL-P w/ Nav..the waffle rims are horrible, and Quad exhaust??? u gotta have more than 300 to be boastin that on a 4 door FWD car. the only thing i do really like is the Brembos.. but hey..to each their own..got nothin but love for u fellas...just did not experience that much of a difference...
According to you...lol...
Old 01-29-2008, 08:51 PM
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well im sure if you check car and driver on a 07 TL-S you'll see a 14.1 @ 101mph and 0-60 was just shy of the 5 second ticker i believe...then again u did say auto TL-S...but still those things are quick too....all i know is the 6spd is stupid fast....and yes...i said...STUPID FAST
Old 01-29-2008, 09:48 PM
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I CANT FIGHT IT ANYMORE!!!! I JUST TRADED MY 07 TL IN AND BOUGHT AN 08 TYPE S !!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOT OUT OF THE DEALERSHIP AT 10:30 GREAT DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!

I TRIED TO CONVINCE MYSELF BUT NOW.... I AM NOW SO SATISFIED THE TYPE S !!!!!!! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
Old 01-29-2008, 10:51 PM
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ok, so im an IDIOT...after driving the 07 TLP for 7 months , to the TYPE S tonight - the power difference TO ME is NIGHT & DAY...all i can say about my previous threads is..um...i am an idiot
Old 01-29-2008, 11:04 PM
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But we already knew that. You didn't have to build negative equity to prove it to us.
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Originally Posted by jeowen
ok, so im an IDIOT...after driving the 07 TLP for 7 months , to the TYPE S tonight - the power difference TO ME is NIGHT & DAY...all i can say about my previous threads is..um...i am an idiot



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You traded one great car for another.
Old 01-29-2008, 11:10 PM
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come on guys its all gravy baby....to me the TL is a badass car hands down. whether a tls or not!
Old 01-29-2008, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris 07 Type S
But we already knew that. You didn't have to build negative equity to prove it to us.
LOL.....now u really cant say that can u? without knowing the numbers...its all good and yes one great car for another
Old 01-29-2008, 11:26 PM
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ok so i guess im still somewhat of a noob..

whats the p in TL-P supposed to stand for?
Old 01-29-2008, 11:33 PM
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Premium there champ
Old 01-29-2008, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TLType-s12
MOFO didnt let me finish lol

-NAVIGATION
-carbon fiber interior
-double dual exhaust
-Type S rear brake lights, spoiler, body kit,
-Type S racing suspension
-Type S Rims
-Bigger engine and/or more hosepower
-Not to mention some colors come in only for the Type S( ex. KBP which is what i got)

im sure theres a few things i missed but dat about rounds it up

I have TLS, but i feel the interior is more like plastic instead of Carbon Fiber.
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Originally Posted by jeowen
Premium there champ
wth..premium meaning it has a navi?
Old 01-29-2008, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by playa4real
wth..premium meaning it has a navi?
TL-P does not come standard with a Navi.
TL-S navi standard
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Originally Posted by Silver_Surfer
TL-P does not come standard with a Navi.
TL-S navi standard
yeah i know that, but then what does "premium" add to the tl?

or is premium just referring to the base model?
Old 01-30-2008, 12:13 AM
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correct, just referring to the base model
Old 01-30-2008, 09:10 AM
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Can't we all just get along! Some of us have a TL and others a TL-S. So what. I love my TL and yes if I had the green backs I would have a TL-S. I bout my TL used and I think it is so much nicer then the BMW's that are out there like my x's BMW 325xi. I didn't start this thread to start a pissing mach. I just wanted to know the power advantage that the TL-S had over my TL. I got my answer and then some. So let's just put this one to sleep shall we.
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