paperboy42190

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my 07 tl-s 5at vs my friends 07 civic si sedan.

we were on highway doing about 80mph and pull next to each other. after finishing a slight curve on the freeway, an empty straight of about a mile is ahead of us. i put it in manual mode and drop it to 3rd gear. my friend understands what that means and downshifted to get ready. then we take off. i get a slight jump of about half car length, then the civic si just stays with me. up to about 120 hes still about half car length behind me, nothing much has changed. then i get a very slight pull and very soon after i hit the 132 limiter and also my friend's exit was coming up so we both slowed down.

civic si's are pretty quick once they rev it high and with their 6speed the rpm's stays high after each shift. he said once he shifted to 6th his car barely accelerated, which i assume was when i started my slight pull.

we wanna do a race from a dig now. i think i have a lot better chance from a dig because of the extra torque from my car.

princelybug

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Nice kill.

paperboy42190

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not so much of a kill lol, more like a "barely beat" also considering 197hp vs 286hp....

Sonnick

Is he stock? If so,

From a dig he may outlaunch you...your best bet is probably a 2nd gear roll. Go from a dig though, you should pull on him once you catch traction. They really aren't all that quick stock.

TylerT

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^ Agreed.

He'll probably outlaunch you if he's a good driver. His car is a whole lot lighter / manual .. you may be playing catchup from 50-100.

Good luck!

SatinSilverAV6

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Should be a good race from a dig. From 0-95mph(1/4mile) you should win by a car length or so. Stock they are easily in the high 14's where as the TL-S Auto is a mid-high 14 second car.

Dave_B

^This. I have two friends with current gen Si sedans. Both of them have run 14.7-14.8@95mph at the strip with stock cars. I could see an Si doing decent from a roll. The TL-S should have a pretty significant advantage off the line.

Rick_TL-S

Having had both of these cars, the TL will win anyway you put it, unless you're specifically giving the Si an advantage.

I give credit to the Si, though. It's a pretty quick & fun little car for what it is. Part of me still misses it.

Bread-A Spec

don't try to corner with him....just go from a dig at the highway

paperboy42190

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o yea i've been in his car when he took some turns....i KNOW i cant keep up if turns are involved lol, he does have track coilovers though.

his performance mods are only injen short ram intake, catback exhaust, and short shifter adapter.

i only have aem v2 cold air intake.

i was just thinking i'd do better from a dig cuz the tl-s picks up speed pretty quick cuz of the large engine, and the si would need to hit high rpms before going fast.

i'll update the thread when/if we do the race.

paperboy42190

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yea...286hp vs 197hp and hes keeping up with me pretty well. si's are quick at high speeds....at least my friend said once he hit 130 in 6th gear it barely accelerated. i still felt that i had power left but the 132mph speed governor stopped me.

Rockstar21

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shoulda got a 6MT

you would have destroyed him

iforyou

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He's putting down 180whp stock while your TL-S is probably around 240whp stock. His car is around 2900lb, while your car is 3600lb. So Civic's 16whp/lb vs TL's 15whp/lb. It's gonna be close!

paperboy42190

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when i was in the market for a car i also test drove a 2007 civic si coupe my friend was selling. in the end....stick shift just isnt for me. im a noob at driving stick and my parents wouldnt be able to drive it. tl-s gets so much more attention than an si...and gets more chicks too

paperboy42190

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i raced a 2nd gen tl-s on the freeway one time, and i slowly walked him. not bad for a pre-2004 car.

Ruby

Sounds about right to me! Nice kill, K20 cars are no joke, unless were talking about pre 2006 Civic Si's with the a3 motor or base RSX. Put intake, exhast and Kpro and your talking about a 13 second car. Don't under estimate them!

05AcTL

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I think you would of smoked him if you would of just left it in auto rather than manual, i think that slap stick bullshit in our cars suck and are actually slower cuz I've SPANKED a few SI's with mods from a dig n on the highway and I have a 05 base 5AT... not that it makes a diff but mine doesnt cut out at 132 either

paperboy42190

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the only thing about leaving it in auto is that it sucks when racing from a roll. the auto tranny will take time to downshift before accelerating whereas i can downshift myself in manual mode.

from a dig though, i will definitely leave it in auto and turn vsa off. even if i were to put it on manual, its so hard to time the shifts right because of the lag in the shifting. i'll either be bouncing off the rev limiter or upshifting too early.

Tebaz06TL

rip that sucker out speed governor lol I wanna read the outcome hey get him a passenger you'll surely win j/k. dig it.

iforyou

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Yea it's gonna be close also but your car will always walk a 2g TL-S..unless it's modded I'd imagine with headers the 2g TL-S might be able to match your car.

Rockstar21

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i say we let him run reese or phee... some real 2G bruisers

iforyou

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wish i'd 6mt and those mods too.........

Bread-A Spec

i own a 2G TL-S before,and i can feel now my stock 3G Type S is faster than my old 2G TL-S with intake and catback exhaust

Bread-A Spec

um...i will say not,unless 2G TL-S owner put a 3.5L engine on a 2G TL-S

Sonnick

Idk. If he put the 3.5 on it, it might be slower

iforyou

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sonnick don't be a nerd :P lol

Sonnick

Sometimes I can't help myself

Bread-A Spec

hahaha...

Rockstar21

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your butt dyno is fooling you.

a 2G TL-S with a few bolt-ons will be side by side with a 3G type-S (i/h/e)
stock, they put down more power, but are also heavier.

a 2G with some added power would hang with the 3G no problem..

now a 6MT 3G is a different story.

justnspace

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Bread-A Spec

i would say if a 2G TL-S with some bolt-ons as u said,and still not catch a stock 3G Type S,cuz i own a 2G TL-S before with intake and catback exhaust,and i can feel now my 3G Type S (even stock) feel way faster than my old 2G TL-S with intake and catback exhaust....and i know beside that pulley and headers is a good choice for a 2G TL-S to catch 3G Type S,but the main point is have to find everything is the right choice/choose and size for it,otherwises 2G TL-S will lose all the power

Sonnick

While I believe the 3G TL-s is faster than an I/E 2G, I will say not by much. You feel the 3G is faster because it has much more torque, despite being heavier. Torque feels faster.

SatinSilverAV6

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I have seen mid 14's from a 2nd gen type-s with just I/E. That would be a good run with a stock 3rd gen auto Type-S. Add headers to the 2nd gen and the 3rd gen would be seeing taillights!

Rockstar21

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yea, i agree... and that makes 3 silver 7th gen accords... and our word is the law.

RUF87

Oh I'm sure there are a few modded 2nd gen Type S could beat a 3rd gen Type S . .

Ruf

justnspace

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:hinthint:

RUF87

Agreed . . guys that have riden in my car don't think it's that fast . . . until they run me or look at the speed. But I do wish I had more torque . .

Ruf

SatinSilverAV6

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haha damn right!

paperboy42190

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so im gonna run the SI again soon...what do you think my best chance is? from a 25 roll? 40? 50?

remember i have the 5AT, and he has the 6MT. his 6speed allows him to be in the powerband at almost any speed, so what can i do?

SatinSilverAV6

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Your best chance is from a dig. Stock vs stock you have the faster vehicle. His short ram and exhaust do not add much for the SI. At best his car is in the mid 14's if he knows how to drive well. The TL-S Auto is a mid 14 second car stock. I could see 14.3-14.4 with just CAI for you. The race header does quite a bit from what I have heard but he doesn't have that. It should be quite close from any speed from a roll. You will probably pull no more than 1 car length.