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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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TL-S 1, Impala SS-0

So I passed a impala ss on the highway minding my own business just driving normally he quickly pulls behind me. So I'm obviously thinking he wants to test me. So I give in lol I pul In the right lane he comes up beside me gets a half car length in front of me and off we go. I closed the gap quick and never looked back by the time I was maxing out 4th I had 2 car lengths on him. Moral of the story vtec FTW lol
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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Hahaha it was fun just felt like sharing
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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sounds like you practice good defencive driving.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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We were the only people on the road as far as I could see
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:38 PM
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What year was it cuz if it had the 5.3 v8 no way
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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Not sure but I know it wasn't new I would say early 2000s maybe
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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What year was it cuz if it had the 5.3 v8 no way
I'll serve it on a silver plater.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Lol no way I have it in my grand prix gxp that gets to a 100 by time my tl gets to 65
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:54 PM
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:54 PM
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What year was it cuz if it had the 5.3 v8 no way
Lol, ok.

The 5.3 SS is no faster than a TL-S 6MT. They're both low 14 second cars stock. I have no idea what transmission OP has, but my money would be on a TL-S 6MT from 80 on. The 4AT in the Impala SS/Grand Prix GXP was/is horrible.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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5at I pulled on him rather easily
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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The gxp is low 13 sec car stock but we also have tap shift that the ss does not have
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by purplehaze9414
Lol no way I have it in my grand prix gxp that gets to a 100 by time my tl gets to 65


you do know that we're pushing about the same amount of hp?
with the grand prix gxp being the heavier of the two at 5600lbs vs the 5400lb TL.

the grand prix might feel faster because of the torque but the TL will be quicker from 0-60 and 60 and beyond.
unless you have an automatic TL which 4th gear will present a challenge.


my 6mt will go to 150mph and take the 5.3 v8 no problem
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by purplehaze9414
The gxp is low 13 sec car stock but we also have tap shift that the ss does not have
You've lost all credibility in this thread. Stop talking.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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I always felt my 5 at tl was slow once it got past 70... I can't really judge my gxp from it in a stock perspective bc my gxp is not stock... I've beat imp ss in the gxp by 4 car lengths bc of tapshift though
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:06 PM
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Anx u don't know shit http://m.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1410565
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by purplehaze9414
i though you said LOW 13's.....

all I see is HIGH 13's, which is where the TL 6MT is
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:10 PM
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ohhh it's a FACT cause someone on interwebz says so
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:13 PM
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Lol that was a quick search 3 years ago I ran 13.47 and I had exhaust using tap shift. I just don't like his response i own one of these and a tl n tell me idk what I'm talking about gtfo
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:16 PM
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You have a tl-S?
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:17 PM
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That's my eaglesfan has a auto like mine... And I'm saying there not the same nothing against the tl I love my tl but no way would it get beat stock... And that noob on the site I posted isnt a noon he eventually built a 550 hp turbo 5.3
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Lol, ok.

The 5.3 SS is no faster than a TL-S 6MT. They're both low 14 second cars stock. I have no idea what transmission OP has, but my money would be on a TL-S 6MT from 80 on. The 4AT in the Impala SS/Grand Prix GXP was/is horrible.
exactly what he said considering that the impala SS is mid 90's car and 4K+ in weight that 275hp V8 is not going to destroy a TL-S that is easily 500lbs lighter an more HP

The newer ones 2000 eara have 5.3L v8 and are prety much an even match with the chevy giving up about 200 lbs

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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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we're about even!
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 09:34 PM
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It didn't really look like a old car by the body style but I walked him easily
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 10:15 PM
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Honestly all this is bench racing, anything can happen on the streets. It's very dependent on driver and road conditions
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 11:08 PM
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I'm pretty sure a TLS would end up beating a older stock LT1 Impala. As for the newer ones and the GXP, I would say it would be pretty equal to a TLS. My dad has an 08 GXP and it feels the same just like any other high 13/low 14 second car. I sure wish my TLS sounded like the GXP tho. Love that exhaust note! Lots of torque steer with 303hp V8 and FWD lol.

To purplehaze. No way they are low 13 second cars. And tap shift doesn't do shit. You act like it activates nitrous or some shit. Paddle shifters on automatics are junk.

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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by purplehaze9414
Lol that was a quick search 3 years ago I ran 13.47 and I had exhaust using tap shift. I just don't like his response i own one of these and a tl n tell me idk what I'm talking about gtfo
It's pretty hard to take you seriously when you talk about your GXP getting to 100 in the same amount of time your TL gets to 65.

So either A: your TL is severely broken and is taking around 14 seconds to hit 65 or B: your GXP hits 100 mph in 6-7 seconds (a C6 ZR-1 and new Viper both take 7.3 seconds to hit 100). So which scenario is it?

And then you say the GXP is a low 13 second car, stock, and link a slip of someone going 13.88. Are we missing something here?

BTW, a co-worker used to have a GXP with a cat back and we ran 65-130. He jumped out a fender. By the end of third we were dead even, 4th gear I started a slow walk to put a car length on him. My car was trapping only 100.xx at the time. I'm trapping 102 now, so if we did it again, he'd get walked harder.

Don't get me wrong, the LSx is an awesome engine, one of the best engines of all time actually. I have great respect for it, and I'm sure with the same amount of money I have in bolt ons, the GXP/SS would be faster than me, but stock, close to stock, they're barely a 100 mph car.
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Originally Posted by justnspace

with the grand prix gxp being the heavier of the two at 5600lbs vs the 5400lb TL.
damn justin, how much do you weigh to make your TL 5400 lb?!
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Old Nov 9, 2013 | 07:40 AM
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damn justin, how much do you weigh to make your TL 5400 lb?!
Haha yeah no kidding. Since when did the TL weigh as much as a Chevy suburban? Lol
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Old Nov 9, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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lol was i drunk last night?

I dont remember talking in this thread...
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Old Nov 9, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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My tl is fine but I keep forgetting ur racing a stock ss my gxp has alot of mods done to it. N it is all the driver... But a good driver with tapshift in the gxp can get low 13s but most people aren't good drivers... And I thought easgles was a base tl not tls...
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Originally Posted by purplehaze9414
My tl is fine but I keep forgetting ur racing a stock ss my gxp has alot of mods done to it. N it is all the driver... But a good driver with tapshift in the gxp can get low 13s but most people aren't good drivers... And I thought easgles was a base tl not tls...
What are you talking about a good driver? The damn thing is automatic. Tap shift my ass....when I drive my dads GXP it does nothing differently than when you let it shift on its own. I like the GXP, but you can keep saying low 13's this and tap shift that, but that is not a low 13 second car. Maaaaybe that could happen in perfect conditions at sea level with drag radials, but other than that no way.
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Old Nov 9, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Ofcourse drag radials on... You don't think the auto tl won't come closer to the mt tl using paddle shift as opposed to just running it straight auto
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Originally Posted by purplehaze9414
Ofcourse drag radials on... You don't think the auto tl won't come closer to the mt tl using paddle shift as opposed to just running it straight auto
No I do not. Using the paddles did not make the transmission shift any faster than just leaving it in auto. I think the GXP even still has a 4spd auto. Lastly, I know rear world numbers can vary, but car and driver have the GXP a 1/4 time of 14.3 @ 98mph. I would imagine that's on par with auto TL's and would probably get beat decently by a 6mt TL-S that's driven well.
Again, I like the GXP and I always thought it would be bad ass to drop that LS4 into a Type S and mod it. Plus they sound bad ass even stock. I'm just making a point that I don't see it possible that they can run low 13's especially with a sub 100mph trap speed.

Oh, and for what it's worth I do not consider running drag radials stock. Those can increase your times more than any bolt on and by a lot.

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IIRC, auto TLs don't run low 14s; 6spd can.
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Old Nov 9, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by purplehaze9414
Ofcourse drag radials on... You don't think the auto tl won't come closer to the mt tl using paddle shift as opposed to just running it straight auto
Same exact result! What do you think is happening in that slushbox?
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Originally Posted by purplehaze9414
My tl is fine but I keep forgetting ur racing a stock ss my gxp has alot of mods done to it. N it is all the driver... But a good driver with tapshift in the gxp can get low 13s but most people aren't good drivers... And I thought easgles was a base tl not tls...
It's in the name of the thread....
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Monte Carlo SS, GXP, Impalla SS, it doesn't matter, none of them are running low 13's stock. Period. 303HP is great, but why GM decided to use the 4AT just mind boggles me. Anyway it is a high 13's -low 14's car with traps in the very low 100's. FWD with a 5.3L V8......why GM
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Originally Posted by JTS97Z28
Using the paddles did not make the transmission shift any faster than just leaving it in auto.
the only advantage to manual mode is it revs slightly higher. how much that helps in terms of 1/4 mile...hard to say
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