I'm currently shopping the 06 TSX and 06 TL and I'm having a hardtime deciding which one to go with. (I have test driven both)
Did most people who bought a TL also shop the TSX? I'm guessing most people here actually have a TL...so why would you rather have your TL over a TSX?
For me, I like the TL because it has much more hp/torque, leg room (im 6'3"), better audio....But the TSX is less expensive, has a folding rear seat, and is a physically smaller car.
I'm shopping the 6MT, with nav for both.
Did most people who bought a TL also shop the TSX? I'm guessing most people here actually have a TL...so why would you rather have your TL over a TSX?
For me, I like the TL because it has much more hp/torque, leg room (im 6'3"), better audio....But the TSX is less expensive, has a folding rear seat, and is a physically smaller car.
I'm shopping the 6MT, with nav for both.
18,000mi. 29000km
TSX nav and TL non-nav came pretty close to price. Looking at that, I went with TL nav in the end.
not vtech... VTEC!!!
I guess the question boils down to size vs. money... Both are great cars so you really can't go wrong w/ either. But coming from someone who's 6'2" I prefer the TL way over TSX.
Yeah... TL also has more power... which never hurts.
Yeah... TL also has more power... which never hurts.

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I'm considering both cars right now as well, but dealers are not giving anything close to a good deal on the TSX, I'm leaning toward the TL more.
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Although I have a TL, I would say TSX has much better tires and better ride, more stable than TL, and feel less rough. TSX will not be too small for you, coz the seats have larger range of adjustment. I am 6'2 and have no problem on a long ride.
One wierd thing is TSX doesn't have the revers-gear tild-down mirror. bothering....
One wierd thing is TSX doesn't have the revers-gear tild-down mirror. bothering....
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I was down sizing my fleet of 3 cars. I'm selling my 2004 Audi 3.0 Ultra Sport, and sold my wifes 2004 Mercedes C230 and got the TL. I didn't even consider the TSX since I was selling $85K worth of car. I couldn't deal with a 4-cyl car. The TSX is a nice ride, but not for me. I'd consider it for my wife, but not me.
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One wierd thing is TSX doesn't have the revers-gear tild-down mirror. bothering....
You also think the 2nd Gen TL is superior to the 3rd and that is far, far from the truth. Originally Posted by gainful
Although I have a TL, I would say TSX has much better tires and better ride, more stable than TL, and feel less rough. TSX will not be too small for you, coz the seats have larger range of adjustment. I am 6'2 and have no problem on a long ride. One wierd thing is TSX doesn't have the revers-gear tild-down mirror. bothering....
The TSX ride is actually MORE harsh than the TL's.
The TL's tires are 20mm wider than the TSX's. All new TL's have Michelins and TSXs also have Michelins. So how can you say the TSX has better tires?
The seats in the TL and TSX adjust in virtually the same exact way, with the advantage going to the TL for its power lumbar. Otherwise, it's standard 8 way power - and the TL is the larger car, albeit not by as much as you might think.
That being said, the TSX is small but it isn't cramped. It's a four-cylinder, but it's ultra-refined. The gas mileage difference isn't huge, though, and the TL has much more power.
I spent a week with a new TL and a month with a TSX and I will tell you this... From my experience, the TL is a superior car in every way to the TSX. It accelerates faster, has more powerful brakes, has a better sound system and better seats, has more features, and contrary to popular belief handles just as good if not better than the TSX.
Edit: and don't let anyone here try to fool you. The TSX's Japan origin is absolutely meaningless. For a month I had an 05 TSX loaner (with 400 miles) in the garage with my 05 Accord V6 loaner (3000 miles) and the TSX was just as good, but it was absolutely NO better in fit/finish, rattles, paint, etc. than my Ohio-built Accord.
I didn't shop for a TSX because my father has one and I had driven it a few times. I like it, but the reason I was in the market for a new car was that I had just been rear-ended and my car was totaled, so I decided that I wanted something a little bigger than my previous car. The TSX was about the same size. It's quite the nice vehicle in my opinion and it was fun to drive, but the TL is just a nicer car and more of a step up IMO.
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As was I about two years ago. I thought that I would prefer the smaller TSX. After driving them, I ended up with the TL. I prefered the shifter feel, the power, and the interior layout. At the time, the TSX had 205/50 tires that did not afford any plus sizing. Originally Posted by huberc
I'm currently shopping the 06 TSX and 06 TL and I'm having a hardtime deciding which one to go with. (I have test driven both)
I later added the A-Spec suspension and wheel package and am glad I made the TL choice.
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can't agree.
TSX seats have a higher base height than TL's, and are different in design.
you were right Nav TLs have Mich but mine has the BreachStone Crapporenza.
TSX may be stiffer on large bumps, but its suspension filters out the samll road imperfection quite well. In contrary, TL lets you feel every gravel on the pavement.
DOn't be blinded, the fact we bought TL doesn't mean it has to be perfect to justfy ourselves!
TSX seats have a higher base height than TL's, and are different in design.
you were right Nav TLs have Mich but mine has the BreachStone Crapporenza.
TSX may be stiffer on large bumps, but its suspension filters out the samll road imperfection quite well. In contrary, TL lets you feel every gravel on the pavement.
DOn't be blinded, the fact we bought TL doesn't mean it has to be perfect to justfy ourselves!
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Get both I have a tl for the fun car and planning to buy a tsx for a daily car. TL built in Ohio.
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TSX seats have a higher base height than TL's, and are different in design.
you were right Nav TLs have Mich but mine has the BreachStone Crapporenza.
TSX may be stiffer on large bumps, but its suspension filters out the samll road imperfection quite well. In contrary, TL lets you feel every gravel on the pavement.
DOn't be blinded, the fact we bought TL doesn't mean it has to be perfect to justfy ourselves!
If you wanted a pillowy ride, you should have stopped in for an ES330. The ride you describe would have been noticed on a test drive.Originally Posted by gainful
can't agree.TSX seats have a higher base height than TL's, and are different in design.
you were right Nav TLs have Mich but mine has the BreachStone Crapporenza.
TSX may be stiffer on large bumps, but its suspension filters out the samll road imperfection quite well. In contrary, TL lets you feel every gravel on the pavement.
DOn't be blinded, the fact we bought TL doesn't mean it has to be perfect to justfy ourselves!
And ALL 2006 TLs have Michelins, not just Navi models anymore.
And who is "we"? I have a 2nd gen TL, I didn't buy a 3rd gen. But I have driven it and the TSX and the TL is a much better experience.
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One strange thing is I seldom see TL in Ohio's cities: CIncy, Cleveland,...
But New Jersey seem to be Acura State, TLs everywhere.
But New Jersey seem to be Acura State, TLs everywhere.
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Marysville, Ohio - TLOriginally Posted by HiTEC
Curious... where is the TL built?
Canada - MDX (correct me if I'm wrong here)
Japan - RSX (correct me if I'm wrong here...)
Japan - TSX
Japan - RL
Japan - NSX
I think I will probably end up going with the TL over the TSX based on the extra leg room and extra power of the V6 over the I4. My biggest complaint of my current car is how uncomfortable it can get during extended driving sessions.
not vtech... VTEC!!!
With the discount they are giving to the TL (I got invoice for my TL) and the lack of it for the TSX, they're pretty close in price.

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03coupe, are you sure about this? Where did you get the info? Do you happen to know what michelin they will be using on TL's with the HP tire option?Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
And ALL 2006 TLs have Michelins, not just Navi models anymore.
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The high performance tires on the TL are not Michelin... they are Bridgestone Potenzas.
However, yes, all new TLs (both navi and non-navi) have Michelin tires.
However, yes, all new TLs (both navi and non-navi) have Michelin tires.
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Tl for the power and the sound of the V6. I have a 4 cyl Honda before and although not so bad it didn't give the pleasure that a V6 provides you.
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The answer is 'Yes'. These are completely different cars. To me, the TL is butter smooth and has uncomparable power. The TSX has its benefits. But, it is absolutely no TL.
If the differences aren't apparent to you, then by all means get a TSX. If you like the TSX's road characteristics and handling better, get a TSX. In my opinion, there is a clear separation between the TSX and the TL. If you don't see the separation, get a TSX.
If the differences aren't apparent to you, then by all means get a TSX. If you like the TSX's road characteristics and handling better, get a TSX. In my opinion, there is a clear separation between the TSX and the TL. If you don't see the separation, get a TSX.
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Sit in the back seat, if you are 6"+ and plan to have passengers it does make a difference. TL beats it in rear leg room and rear comfort without doubt. I entertain clients routinely, so it matter to me.
The TSX is certainly more spirited and fun to drive, but only with the manual trans. That 4cyl engine doesn't feel good with the auto........
Good luck with the purchase either way.
The TSX is certainly more spirited and fun to drive, but only with the manual trans. That 4cyl engine doesn't feel good with the auto........
Good luck with the purchase either way.
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The TSX feels more connected to the road in relaxed driving, but the 6MT TL really handles well when driven hard and has scored autocross trophies among AZ members. The 4 cylinder drone sounds cheap next to the TSX's near $30K price, whereas the TL engine drives & sounds awesome, and the fuel economy is very good. The TSX engine is not bad with the 6MT, but the TSX VTEC kicks in for only the last few hundred RPM - a bit late to enjoy the VTEC sound and power bump. The TL's VTEC kicks in at 4500 RPM, well shy of the 6800 RPM redline. Also, I thought the TSX's stereo sounded good until I got in one after awhile (a loaner) - It sucks compared to the TL in my opinion. My two cents...
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TL no questions asked, but then again I test drove a TSX and hated it. Spend a little extra cash and get the TL. I picked up an 06 NBP with Nav for 33,900.
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TL no questions asked, but then again I test drove a TSX and hated it. Spend a little extra cash and get the TL. I picked up an 06 NBP with Nav for 33,900.
Did you trade in your 2G TL?
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I went with the TL because of the backseat. Its more practical for adults back there. The additional power with only a minor fuel economy penalty settled it.
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The fuel economy difference is almost negligible. The loaner TSX I had for a month got worse gas mileage than my 05 Accord V6 and was about on par with my 02 TL. Definitely no advantage over either, especially considering both 02 TL and 05 AV6 totally left it in the dust.
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The fuel economy difference is almost negligible. The loaner TSX I had for a month got worse gas mileage than my 05 Accord V6 and was about on par with my 02 TL. Definitely no advantage over either, especially considering both 02 TL and 05 AV6 totally left it in the dust.
Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6

The fuel economy difference is almost negligible. The loaner TSX I had for a month got worse gas mileage than my 05 Accord V6 and was about on par with my 02 TL. Definitely no advantage over either, especially considering both 02 TL and 05 AV6 totally left it in the dust.

My TSX loaner sucked I couldn't wait to get my 02 TL-S back. I thought the TSX felt cheap also maybe thats just me.
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The TSX has a kind of very stable and composed feel, similar to the feel of 02 TL.
It is a kind of composure, no matter it is a firmer suspension like TSX, or softer like the 02 TL.
The 3rd Gen TL kinds lost that composure and feels busy and less stable. SOme enthusiastic people here call that "desire for driver's attention",
It is a kind of composure, no matter it is a firmer suspension like TSX, or softer like the 02 TL.
The 3rd Gen TL kinds lost that composure and feels busy and less stable. SOme enthusiastic people here call that "desire for driver's attention",

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However, yes, all new TLs (both navi and non-navi) have Michelin tires.
Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
The high performance tires on the TL are not Michelin... they are Bridgestone Potenzas.However, yes, all new TLs (both navi and non-navi) have Michelin tires.
Yeah, LOW rated Michelins!
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The TSX has a kind of very stable and composed feel, similar to the feel of 02 TL.

Those two cars feel absolutely NOTHING alike. Assuming you did mean TL-P, the TL feels cushy and refined. The TSX feels agile, light on its feet, and razor sharp. They feel like opposites.
The TL and TSX do feel alike, actually - although the TL feels much more powerful.
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I own an 04 TSX and an 05 TL so I think I can speak from experience. Personally, I prefer the driving experience in the TSX, although the TL is a fine car as well. The TL certainly has more power but the TSX feels more responsive.
My biggest complaints about the TL are the mileage and the trip computer. I am only getting 19 MPG on the TL while I get 24 on the TSX (all in-town driving for both). The TL is only a few months old so I am hoping it is a break-in thing. The trip compuuter design is a pain to use on the TL. Much simpler on the TSX and integrated into the Navi.
Of course some of the features in the TL are simply not available on the TSX and they are nice value added features. The overall feel of the TL interior is more luxurious than the TSX. The backseet of the TL is roomier than the TSX and better for adults or large teenagers.
If I was starting over and money was no object I would get a TL. For the best price/performer I would get a TSX. For driving mostly alone get a TSX. For driving with others, get a TL. When both cars are sitting in the garage, I usually jump in the TL. This is mostly because it is newer and my wife usually drives it to work so I want my turn too. If that were not a factor I would probably alternate. Bottom line is that they are both great cars! You can't go wrong.
My biggest complaints about the TL are the mileage and the trip computer. I am only getting 19 MPG on the TL while I get 24 on the TSX (all in-town driving for both). The TL is only a few months old so I am hoping it is a break-in thing. The trip compuuter design is a pain to use on the TL. Much simpler on the TSX and integrated into the Navi.
Of course some of the features in the TL are simply not available on the TSX and they are nice value added features. The overall feel of the TL interior is more luxurious than the TSX. The backseet of the TL is roomier than the TSX and better for adults or large teenagers.
If I was starting over and money was no object I would get a TL. For the best price/performer I would get a TSX. For driving mostly alone get a TSX. For driving with others, get a TL. When both cars are sitting in the garage, I usually jump in the TL. This is mostly because it is newer and my wife usually drives it to work so I want my turn too. If that were not a factor I would probably alternate. Bottom line is that they are both great cars! You can't go wrong.
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My biggest complaints about the TL are the mileage and the trip computer. I am only getting 19 MPG on the TL while I get 24 on the TSX (all in-town driving for both). The TL is only a few months old so I am hoping it is a break-in thing. The trip compuuter design is a pain to use on the TL. Much simpler on the TSX and integrated into the Navi.
Of course some of the features in the TL are simply not available on the TSX and they are nice value added features. The overall feel of the TL interior is more luxurious than the TSX. The backseet of the TL is roomier than the TSX and better for adults or large teenagers.
If I was starting over and money was no object I would get a TL. For the best price/performer I would get a TSX. For driving mostly alone get a TSX. For driving with others, get a TL. When both cars are sitting in the garage, I usually jump in the TL. This is mostly because it is newer and my wife usually drives it to work so I want my turn too. If that were not a factor I would probably alternate. Bottom line is that they are both great cars! You can't go wrong.
Agree with eel. Originally Posted by eel
I own an 04 TSX and an 05 TL so I think I can speak from experience. Personally, I prefer the driving experience in the TSX, although the TL is a fine car as well. The TL certainly has more power but the TSX feels more responsive. My biggest complaints about the TL are the mileage and the trip computer. I am only getting 19 MPG on the TL while I get 24 on the TSX (all in-town driving for both). The TL is only a few months old so I am hoping it is a break-in thing. The trip compuuter design is a pain to use on the TL. Much simpler on the TSX and integrated into the Navi.
Of course some of the features in the TL are simply not available on the TSX and they are nice value added features. The overall feel of the TL interior is more luxurious than the TSX. The backseet of the TL is roomier than the TSX and better for adults or large teenagers.
If I was starting over and money was no object I would get a TL. For the best price/performer I would get a TSX. For driving mostly alone get a TSX. For driving with others, get a TL. When both cars are sitting in the garage, I usually jump in the TL. This is mostly because it is newer and my wife usually drives it to work so I want my turn too. If that were not a factor I would probably alternate. Bottom line is that they are both great cars! You can't go wrong.
Considered both TSX and TL before buying an '05 TL. Absent input of significant other, I might have happily chosen the TSX 6-speed. The wife really preferred an automatic transmission instead of a manual, so I went with the TL since the auto TSX is pretty slow (like the V-6 Camry commuter car--ugh!). I did love the responsiveness of the manual TSX, but have not missed having a manual at all in the TL auto, which seems pretty responsive.
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GET THE TL. IT'S NICE, I BET THE TSX IS ALSO NICE.Originally Posted by SilverUA5
I'm considering both cars right now as well, but dealers are not giving anything close to a good deal on the TSX, I'm leaning toward the TL more.
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The TL is probably the car for you. The TL is an excellent highway cruiser - I've done multiple 1000+ mile drives, and I can't complain about a single thing. The TSX is far noisier inside the cabin at highway speeds, and bumpier.Originally Posted by huberc
I think I will probably end up going with the TL over the TSX based on the extra leg room and extra power of the V6 over the I4. My biggest complaint of my current car is how uncomfortable it can get during extended driving sessions.
The TSX has bigger turning radius...not that the TL's is small.
TL 6mt > TSX 6mt... no LSD, no brembos.
TL steering response < TSX... TL's feedback can be too light/darty at times.
I was all set on getting a TSX, but got a TL instead. Just saying I really do like the TSX - I'm trying to be as objective as possible.
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It is a kind of composure, no matter it is a firmer suspension like TSX, or softer like the 02 TL.
The 3rd Gen TL kinds lost that composure and feels busy and less stable. SOme enthusiastic people here call that "desire for driver's attention",
If you are talking about the steering feedback/response/feel, then I do agree with you on this point. My bro pointed out that the 05 5at loaner he got took more effort to keep straight than his TL-S and my 6mt. Originally Posted by gainful
The TSX has a kind of very stable and composed feel, similar to the feel of 02 TL.It is a kind of composure, no matter it is a firmer suspension like TSX, or softer like the 02 TL.
The 3rd Gen TL kinds lost that composure and feels busy and less stable. SOme enthusiastic people here call that "desire for driver's attention",
While I never liked the 2g's heavy steering feel, I'm not a huge fan of the 3g's uber light feel either...especially when the tire pressure and/or the alignment is off or the road surface is unusually uneven.
Regarding your other posts/points, they're simply retarded. You're talking out of your ass - just stop it.
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to me when i think of a tsx i think of a person who could not afford a tl, dont mean to make anyone mad with this, but this is how i personally see it
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However, yes, all new TLs (both navi and non-navi) have Michelin tires.
You're contradicting yourself. You say the HPT option gets you Bridgestones, but then you say ALL TL's come with Michelin. Did you mean to say the STANDARD tire for all TL's is Mchelin?Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
The high performance tires on the TL are not Michelin... they are Bridgestone Potenzas.However, yes, all new TLs (both navi and non-navi) have Michelin tires.



