MilanoRedDashR

Just curious what you guys think might happen to the value of our cars in the next 10-15 years?

I know it’s not comparable to the integra type R or anything, but 5 years ago when I sold my 2 owner 180k Integra GSR in excellent condition for 4K, I thought not nothing of it. Now, you can’t find a nice one, and when you do, they go for WAY more than 4K.... wondering if it’s possible the TL type S (mainly with the 6 speed) will follow suit? Seems like the manual trans is getting more snd more rare every day... this car is pretty darn rare as it is. What do y’all think? Should I sell it now while I could probably get 10k for it? Or do you think it’ll at least hold its value going forward?

horseshoez

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Quite honestly I don't think anybody can predict the value, but I think all 3G 6MT models will hold their values pretty well over the next ten years, and yeah, there is a pretty good chance they will appreciate.

04WDPSeDaN

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This is my personal opinion from what I've noticed.

The 3rd gen TL is still on of the most sought after vehicles, especially the 6MT.
The 6MT always demands a higher cost
Specific options & colors will always demand more (Example: A-spec KBP Type-s 6MT)
The market has shown many low mileage Type-s sell for an absurd amount, including any of them with a 6MT.
Over time I am certain they will appreciate in value. I just don't see them becoming 30K+ vehicles but it's possible. (Not all 3rd gen's but certain ones)
Everything has a price and as the market has shown, there is a demand for specific models across the board.

BillMFD3

Value is directly related to mileage. As the TL is a 4 door sporty sedan most are not in that category. If you do have a low mileage example it would need to be not driven that much. So it would have to be a second car. That said low mile anything over 25 years brings money. Sometimes big money on BAT. I checked my 05 MT with 230000 miles - about 4k. Don’t see it moving up as it’s my daily til it craps out.

Japanese cars are starting to get some love. Datsun Z especially. Always a fan growing up...I have a low mileage 94 RX7 that has doubled in price since I got it. It’s a summer day only use.

horseshoez

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Agreed; hence the fact I'm actually considering pulling the trigger on a low mileage Type-S 6MT if/when the right one comes along, and only driving it sparingly; my 2006 6MT will easily serve as my daily driver.

Legend2TL

I donated my wife's '86 Integra with 240k miles but in 9/10 condition, probably also should have kept it as well.

One appreciating Honda that I noticed recently are Honda CRX Si's, on BaT a few 1G's have brought $16k-$18k, some 2G's are ~$20k in nice OEM condition.

As for the 3G TL, IMO definitely the 6MT Type-S is the sought out model for most but time will tell what happens. Couple Type-S 6MT's in great condition brought $15k-16k prices last year.

https://bringatrailer.com/search/acura+tl+type-s/

Also a big fan of 240Z's. Always wanted one as I helped a neighbor work on his '73, those Hitachi/SU carbs would only stay in sync for maybe a week or two. The owner let me drive it a couple times once I got my license, it was a blast despite only having a 4MT it was light and responsive. Few years ago at Amelia Concurs there was a unicorn JDM RHD Z432 up for auction, which are six-figure cars now.

horseshoez

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My former business partner had a 260Z but so hated the carburetors he retrofitted dual side-draft Weber carbs to the engine (I don't remember if it required a custom intake manifold or not); driving that car was a blast, errr, until the rust got so bad the driver's seat started ripping through the floor.

BillMFD3

This is the s$@t!

Jackass

Don't forget that even if the price goes up, that will take a few more years before it really has much chance of going up much....you shouldn't really drive it...but yet you still have to pay taxes, insurance, and maintenance on it. Are you really making any money here? Car ownership rarely works out in the owners favor financially. It isn't generally a good investment platform.

If you want the car, appreciate it, then keep it. If you are done with it, and want the most money out of it, sell it now before it continues to age itself out and develops more age related issues. Thinking you can hold onto it for 5 more years to make more money is highly unlikely. Holding onto it for another 10-15 years...maybe...but again, how much money did you spend to keep it for those 10-15 years.

horseshoez

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LOL, yeah, well said. If I buy one it won't be because of the investment value, more because, well, "I freakin' want one!"

If in the end I make some money off of it, so much the better.

Marsalis Simms

I wouldn't be surprised to see an increase in price over the years. I just recently bought mine for 10.5; which to people who don't really know the car well is a lot. It's an excellent car to drive and a perfect daily.

jeffstlnote

My 2008 Type S 6MT has 119,3xx and it is indeed my rarely driven 2nd car. I certainly expect it to at the very least hold some decent value. Simply due to being harder and harder to find. Things like...

Such cars being totaled
Such cars being a daily driver and have twice the miles, maybe 3 times the miles
Colors people just don't want
People who already have one and aren't looking or interested in selling

And at the end of the day, just how many Type S 6MT were made? It's getting harder to find one day by day...

I paid $10,500 and it had 118.6xx miles at purchase. Marsalis Simms I did find one you were right lol

Marsalis Simms

I'm happy you did man! Told you it would only be a matter of time all in all it sounds like you found a slightly better one than mine for the same price! About 20k miles less than what mine sits at currently. That blacked out Type-S badge also looks cool! Is that on your new one or a previous car?

jeffstlnote

It's on my daily 2007 Auto Type S. I like the look however its shifted slightly from being really good looking horizontally..bothers me! The badge is all over ebay for like $10.00 and numerous colors. I did this on my 2008 6MT and like it more...

MilanoRedDashR

Im sitting at 112k miles. Bought it almost 6 years ago at 92k miles.

I still love the car, and I really don’t know what else I would get that would be a significant improvement for under 25 grand?

I was debating whether or not to get rid of my daily and my TL, but I think I might just keep holding on to the TL and upgrade the daily.

I dunno, driving it 3-4K miles a year and having it sit in the garage, I don’t think it’s gonna depreciate much any time soon.

GhostTL09

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Just spend $50 ang get a 3G OEM Type-S Badge. I have the 3G badge and doesn't look aftermarket like that does.

Marsalis Simms

Looks nice! I thought about it for my grille and didn't really see it fitting the look I was going for. I'll look on ebay for the blacked out badge though!

PhilB81

I’m keeping mine, and when I pull up to cars n coffee I expect them to park me between a LaFerrari and a 918.

on a more serious note, I paid 34k new in 2008 for mine, that’s 41k in today’s money, so I’m not going to make money on car. With that said, this car has been really gentle on the wallet, no issues other than HFL / battery drain, and if I one day decide to sell it and I get 15k for it, that’s certainly better than 4K, but I don’t think this is the next BMW e30.
I do regret not getting a late 90s NSX several years ago ( must have pop up lights and the 3.2 w 6spd)... I love the RX7 too but maintenance scares me with those.

08KBP_VA

I like your choices and what if's...Wish I had bought that 993 i was looking at too and that 97 Supra I coulda picked up for a song.

To the OP who would have thought a 2000 Civic Si would bring 50k EVER? So I think theres a future for the manual to maintain a decent price point but there are a lot of conditions that need to be met to hit that sweet spot.

truonghthe

my prediction value of the MT TL-S will stay hover around $10k for a car that has between 100k - 150k miles, depend on maint records and condition. Some rare color combo (KBP, MRP and WDP with two tone seat, MT) along with some factory accessory might go slightly higher but I can't see shoot over $20k for the next 10 years.

This car is very similar to the 2nd Gen Acura Legend MT and if you look at the market for those only a few that sold more than $20k.

DerrickW

Don't know if my current experience is any indication of where values are today let alone tomorrow, but for what its worth: I put my 07 Type-S 6MT - pristine, 2-owner, all maint. done, desirable color, 181,xxx - up for sale in the Marketplace one week ago today at $13.9k and got zero bites. So clearly I was above the market, or at least the Acurazine community's.

horseshoez

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Odds on bet all of your modifications are why you are above market; most of us looking for TL Type-S 6MTs are looking for bone stock cars.

DerrickW

Agreed. Tho my mods package is pretty light, and easily reversible, no doubt you're probably right.

DerrickW

Since I seemed to be the current benchmark setter for what a 180k Type-S 6MT is worth these days, figured I'd close this loop. I sold my 07 yesterday to a cash buyer for $10,800. Which I think was pretty fair to both of us.

jeffstlnote

Feeling that much better about my purchase.... 2008 Type S 6MT with 118.600 miles for $10,500!

Marsalis Simms

Nice! Was a very clean example so I'm not surprised

Same here! 136,000 for 10,500

jeffstlnote

Absolutely Marsalis! Both great buys!

DerrickW

You both SCORED. Bigly. I'm willing to bet that with some patience you could turn around and sell them both for at least $1,500 or more than you've paid. (assuming timing belts have been done) My ultimate buyer came in off cars.com, and no sooner had a struck a deal with him than a couple other serious, sight-unseen buyers came in who were ready to go at full asking (which was $10,600 on cars) & ignited a bidding war. But I'd already given my word to my buyer and happily accepted his $10.8k.

jeffstlnote

I paid full asking price myself, the seller had someone local to him (Dallas) who had a "deal:" for $10,000 (was asking $10,500.) But the story goes the buyer in line traveled a lot and just wasn't getting back to the seller. This process went on for rough;y 2 weeks. Maybe I hounded the guy lol, but I was like I will overnight you a certified check for $10,500. Done deal. Did cost me $300 to get it up here to Springfield, Missouri. Timing belt was replaced at 100,000 roughly...(seller said he did as close to 100,000 so it was easily remembered) Bought it with 118,600 in October, has 119,300 now (yea it sits lol) It baffles me why guys do that expensive service only to sell the car soon after. My brother had a 2007 silver Type S, paid off of course, did the 105k service at 102,000, and sold the car at 108,000 to LEASE an Audi Q7.

These 6MT's might become a thing, may not. But right now they seem pretty sought after huh...

jeffstlnote

Sad day buddy?

DerrickW

Yes and no. I video'd the guy driving off in it, so I guess there must've been some sentimentalism there. But. I'm so excited over the arrival of its replacement (Corvette) that the anxious anticipation sort of outweighs the 'goodbye.' Unfortunately, you can't upload a video file to azine, but here's what his driving off sounded like.

jeffstlnote

Bittersweet! The Corvette will outweigh that lol...

MilanoRedDashR

Thought I would bump this thread after more than a year to see if anybodys opinions have changed. I just hit 115k miles and am starting to have little issues with the car which are driving me fucking nuts, and I’m thinking about selling. I just don’t want to regret my decision in 10 years.

though I’m thinking of selling it and getting a 100 series Toyota Land Cruiser, so maybe the value of that thing will increase as much as the TL might lol

truonghthe

Welcome back, any issue could be remedied with proper repairs. Some of us rather spend the money and repair our 15 years old car and other just using that as an excuse to get a new car. Its up to you at this point, the used car market are crazy right now tho.

MilanoRedDashR

dont get me wrong, I love this car, and I wanted to keep it for a really long time (and I still might) but the navigation went out, the stupid clock issue a lot of us are dealing with, I just think if I want a Honda to keep around for a long time, I might be better off finding an old GSR or something with less technology, to be honest. I just don’t want to sell it and then see the value of the tls go crazy in 10 years lol

horseshoez

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If your car is bone stock and you decide to part with it; let me know.

MilanoRedDashR

not stock

but tasteful mods imo

PhilB81

I totally agree.

If you have one cars too many and want to make room in the garage/driveway, it’s probably a good time to sell, if you need to replace it, I suspect the math will not be in your favor.

I have to admit the clock issue is such a small thing but man that’s annoying.

horseshoez

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Sorry, but "not stock; tasteful mods" equates to reduced desirability and resale value.

jeffstlnote

Depends on what the buyer is looking for no? I as well have done some mods here and there, because quite frankly have no desire to sell the 6mt. I have however kept every stock part that I may have changed, therefore returning back would take a day.