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Old Oct 30, 2016 | 07:03 PM
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Is there a bullet proof TL?

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Had a CL-s MT for years, loved it, sold it, want to replace with a TL. Would love to get a 07/08 Type-S MT, but I know the scarcity issue. So, I'm considering an Auto Type-S. BUT I had the 2001 TL, and know the pain of a F-ed transmission.

What are the better years of this generation?
Known issues with Type-S MT?
Known issues with Type-S AT?
Worth buying a non Type-S MT?

I want a bullet proof TL, which one should I be looking for?

Thank you!
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Old Oct 30, 2016 | 07:18 PM
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Either of those are bullet proof. THey have all the same pros and all the same cons. Maintenance is key with everything and this subforum has all the common problems and their solutions DIY or otherwise. Look at mileage and other condition, also budget constraints, you'll be fine either way.
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Old Oct 30, 2016 | 07:19 PM
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The '07-'08 generation had the better automatic transmissions. However the manual (which is the better choice) only came in '04-'06. As far as I'm aware, there aren't many problems with the 6spd besides third gear sometimes popping out (or something like that).

And I'm certain that the '07-'08 transmissions are the same for base and type-s. I'm currently sitting at 185k on my '08 base with the 5AT. Just do the pressure switches and fluid change and it should be good.
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Old Oct 30, 2016 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bimmitup
The '07-'08 generation had the better automatic transmissions. However the manual (which is the better choice) only came in '04-'06. As far as I'm aware, there aren't many problems with the 6spd besides third gear sometimes popping out (or something like that).

And I'm certain that the '07-'08 transmissions are the same for base and type-s. I'm currently sitting at 185k on my '08 base with the 5AT. Just do the pressure switches and fluid change and it should be good.
Thanks Bimmitup.

whats the deal with dashes cracking and seats ripping? Did they just cheap on this gen TL?
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 12:48 AM
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I'm not sure of a bulletproof TL here on the forums but it'd be pretty expensive to get yours bulletproofed: Armored Cars | Bulletproof Vehicles by International Armoring Corporation
I've read they are upwards of $50k
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Eli J
Hi,

Had a CL-s MT for years, loved it, sold it, want to replace with a TL. Would love to get a 07/08 Type-S MT, but I know the scarcity issue. So, I'm considering an Auto Type-S. BUT I had the 2001 TL, and know the pain of a F-ed transmission.

What are the better years of this generation?
Known issues with Type-S MT?
Known issues with Type-S AT?
Worth buying a non Type-S MT?

I want a bullet proof TL, which one should I be looking for?

Thank you!
Just saw, Saturday, a 1 owner ASM 6sp Type S for sale at Acura dealer approx 94k miles like $15.9k. Theyre out there but rarely at acura dealers. Depending where your at and budget that might be a good look if its still there.

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Wait for a 6MT to become available. They are not that scarce.
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Originally Posted by Eli J
Hi,

Had a CL-s MT for years, loved it, sold it, want to replace with a TL. Would love to get a 07/08 Type-S MT, but I know the scarcity issue. So, I'm considering an Auto Type-S. BUT I had the 2001 TL, and know the pain of a F-ed transmission.

What are the better years of this generation?
Known issues with Type-S MT?
Known issues with Type-S AT?
Worth buying a non Type-S MT?

I want a bullet proof TL, which one should I be looking for?

Thank you!

Known issues with Type-S MT?
will have to wait or possibility paying more than normal TL and you might have to go out state.


Known issues with Type-S AT?
Slow as hell, if you ever thinking any performance gain then its the wrong platform.


Worth buying a non Type-S MT?
affordable price however a lot combo to choose from, no back up cam if that is a must for you.
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bimmitup
The '07-'08 generation had the better automatic transmissions. However the manual (which is the better choice) only came in '04-'06. As far as I'm aware, there aren't many problems with the 6spd besides third gear sometimes popping out (or something like that).

And I'm certain that the '07-'08 transmissions are the same for base and type-s. I'm currently sitting at 185k on my '08 base with the 5AT. Just do the pressure switches and fluid change and it should be good.
07-08 Type S was available in 6M/T
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 05:13 PM
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Thanks guys. Found a 1 owner with 120k for 10k. No accidents, but I think he didnt do routine maintenance. Based on what you've seen/heard, how bad is it to skip routine M, assuming oil was always changed. Was any major service skipped if this is the case, excluding the 105k?
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 05:20 PM
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105K is the biggest one. That's a great deal! Just make sure the major service was done. if not, you can still do it and be well under the price of one that has it done already. I'd buy it and then redo ALLL the fluids (brake, transmission, coolant, etc.)
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bimmitup
The '07-'08 generation had the better automatic transmissions. However the manual (which is the better choice) only came in '04-'06. As far as I'm aware, there aren't many problems with the 6spd besides third gear sometimes popping out (or something like that).

And I'm certain that the '07-'08 transmissions are the same for base and type-s. I'm currently sitting at 185k on my '08 base with the 5AT. Just do the pressure switches and fluid change and it should be good.
It came in the 07-08 TL-S....
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 06:30 PM
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It came in the 07-08 TL-S....
Hope it wasn't the one I get
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 06:42 PM
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6MT or bust
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 06:53 PM
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how do these tings do after 100k? I know, i know its how you drive it and maintenance, but are we seeing people at 200k?
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Eli J
how do these tings do after 100k? I know, i know its how you drive it and maintenance, but are we seeing people at 200k?
Yes
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 07:04 PM
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6MT or bust
I certainly couldn't find one in Atlantic Canada when I was looking. And your RL is auto
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 07:24 PM
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RL doesn't have a 6MT option & I despise it more and more every day..


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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:25 AM
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RL doesn't have a 6MT option & I despise it more and more every day..


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4G 6MT SWAP
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 09:20 AM
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Flipster23
It came in the 07-08 TL-S....
I was referring to the base. Probably should've pointed that out.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 12:58 PM
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6MT or bust
I'd prefer the bust
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 05:48 PM
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how do these tings do after 100k? I know, i know its how you drive it and maintenance, but are we seeing people at 200k?
224k and climbing on my J30 Accord. As others have mentioned the earlier automatics have been problematic, mine was rebuilt at 157k miles, then again at 219k because the original rebuilder left some sort of packing material in the lines for the after market cooler. The 2nd rebuilder (who found the issue) said it wouldn't have failed if they had checked the lines first. Other than that, the engine uses no oil in between 7500 mile synthetic oil changes. I could get it in right now, drive 1000 miles and not think twice about it. The '07/08 auto transmissions are more reliable but hold out for a 6 speed, Honda makes some of the best/most durable manual transmissions around.
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I'd prefer the bust
I prefer some bust myself too
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I'd prefer to bust


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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 05:48 PM
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Saw a 2008 TLs MT, with codes P0171 and P0174. I know its a lean fuel issue, but how big of a deal is this?
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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 04:53 PM
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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 09:22 PM
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the engines in these cars are pretty much bullet proof as long as you take care of them and know when something is wrong and dont let it go. the 04-06 auto trans is just as bad as the one in the 2G TL/CL, the 07-08 auto in both the base and type S is redesigned and far more reliable. the manuals are of course the best option for longevity, but then again those cars have a higher potential of having been driven hard, and if you are looking at a high mileage one thats never had the clutch replaced, that is a very expensive job. biggest thing you want to have done once u get over 100k is the timing belt and water pump, if you can DIY you can get the full Gates kit with water pump and tensioners for like $150. If you pay a shop, expect $500-$1000 for the job
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Old Nov 9, 2016 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JDM96specCTR
the engines in these cars are pretty much bullet proof as long as you take care of them and know when something is wrong and dont let it go. the 04-06 auto trans is just as bad as the one in the 2G TL/CL, the 07-08 auto in both the base and type S is redesigned and far more reliable. the manuals are of course the best option for longevity, but then again those cars have a higher potential of having been driven hard, and if you are looking at a high mileage one thats never had the clutch replaced, that is a very expensive job. biggest thing you want to have done once u get over 100k is the timing belt and water pump, if you can DIY you can get the full Gates kit with water pump and tensioners for like $150. If you pay a shop, expect $500-$1000 for the job
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