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InFaMouSLink 01-09-2009 06:13 PM

Switchback Side Markers
 
Not for everyone!!!!

DIY to follow Just did one and took some snap shops while working and now ima do the second one. here are some pics

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/IMG_4951.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMG_4956.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMG_4979.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMG_4980.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMG_4981.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMG_4983.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMG_4984.jpg



Going to install relay with 2 diodes from corner light to have the switching effect.

materials so far were PLCC-2 LED's, resistors, PC board. soldering skills, and a relay.

ABP_04TL 01-09-2009 06:14 PM

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn AL u crazy!!! lol i will def c this mod in person asap

phossotronic 01-09-2009 06:21 PM

this is going to be sick.

Trew 01-09-2009 10:19 PM

Holy shit! Now that's creativity. Nice job!!!

acura_dipset_tl 01-09-2009 10:22 PM

nice job. now when you install them you gotta make a vid to let us see what they look like in action. :thumbsup:

subbuzz 01-09-2009 10:45 PM

:ohsnap: This may be the motivation I needed!!! I wanted to do this but chickened out, nice work. Can't wait for the finished product!!!:thumbsup:

Rob RiL 01-09-2009 11:50 PM

Great idea. How many leds did you use in each marker?

BLACKURA_NY 01-09-2009 11:59 PM

that is bad ass!!! good for you bro... fcking sick... always fun to be the first to do a mod

InFaMouSLink 01-10-2009 12:05 AM

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMG_4975.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/IMG_4977.jpg


16 LEDS per light

this is only at 12.4 volts. the car runs at 14.3 so it'll be brighter

Buda 01-10-2009 01:12 AM

NICE!!!! I have the white LED module from oznium in already. I have no problem tearing into the side markers again. You'll have to post up the parts used and where you got them. I'm definitely going to have to do this.

InFaMouSLink 01-10-2009 01:54 AM

Still testing at home
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZBKViFwRVw

EVOLICARUS 01-10-2009 09:00 AM

you should start charging people for this service, i'm sure almost all of us would want this done

playa4real 01-10-2009 09:07 AM

that looks sweet man..i was going to mod my side markers when it got warmer...but if you're going to start doing this..i may have to opt to get it done by you! :thumbsup:

rodneyc77 01-10-2009 09:44 AM

That's dope man... Now you're gonna make me do this too PLAYA...

Great Job... you're doing your thing... Let me know when you're ready to do another set... ;)

:thumbsup:

Mjakaz09TL 01-10-2009 09:54 AM

I want this too!!

how much for everything all 4!?

ABP_04TL 01-10-2009 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by rodneyc77 (Post 10376823)
That's dope man... Now you're gonna make me do this too PLAYA...

Great Job... you're doing your thing... Let me know when you're ready to do another set... ;)

:thumbsup:



Ohh so u next huh?:wish:

Righhttttttt:toocool: lol

Buda 01-10-2009 11:29 AM

^-- lol. Just give me the directions and where to get the parts. I'm good on doing this myself. That just may make us DIYs next as we don't have to send him the side markers. :toocool:

BLACKURA_NY 01-10-2009 11:49 AM

damn... i was finally getting ready to do just white led sidemarkers.... now this comes up

lemme ask you... what are you gonna do to ensure the blink right is even with the front blinkers? obviously, your gonna tap the lead off those blinkers... will that be enough? are you gonna use any relays?

EVOLICARUS 01-10-2009 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Buda (Post 10377113)
^-- lol. Just give me the directions and where to get the parts. I'm good on doing this myself. That just may make us DIYs next as we don't have to send him the side markers. :toocool:


get the info, and i'll come up to kc and we can tackle this togther. or come down to como, i do have a heated garage. :thumbsup:

elkechon 01-10-2009 06:14 PM

nice to see u pull it off al nice job

lights 01-10-2009 06:50 PM

wow...hands down for coming up with this!
i had this idea before, but i had no idea where to begin.

please show us the final product soon.

Nasty188 01-10-2009 07:06 PM

Son of a gun!!! :bigeek:

Buda 01-10-2009 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by EVOLICARUS (Post 10377356)
get the info, and i'll come up to kc and we can tackle this togther. or come down to como, i do have a heated garage. :thumbsup:

Heated Garage! I'm envious. Sounds good, we can get a couple of sets put together and installed when we get the info.

ABP_04TL 01-10-2009 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Buda (Post 10378506)
Heated Garage! I'm envious. Sounds good, we can get a couple of sets put together and installed when we get the info.


Any Beers??:tongue:
:tgif:

EVOLICARUS 01-10-2009 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by ABP_04TL (Post 10378553)
Any Beers??:tongue:
:tgif:

i have a 12 pack of corona sitting in the fridge right now.:chug:

ABP_04TL 01-10-2009 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by EVOLICARUS (Post 10378572)
i have a 12 pack of corona sitting in the fridge right now.:chug:

damnnnn look at that, c dats how u gotta do it lol...

2 bad this cold temp suks but dat wont stop me:tomato:

Buda 01-10-2009 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by EVOLICARUS (Post 10378572)
i have a 12 pack of corona sitting in the fridge right now.:chug:

Can't refuse a cold beer!

rockyfeller 01-10-2009 09:27 PM

OH WOW!!! We talked about this before and I was saying this mod was theoretically possible of course but I never thought someone would attack it! Infamous you are the MAN!! Pioneer of the Switchback Sidemarker mod!!, I never thought I'd see the day! I have to see it on the car! Imagine the triple-takes from people with 4 trick switchbacks!! CRAZY!

Should I? Should I not. You know this going to bother me so much I am going to end up doing it. Spring project!!

InFaMouSLink 01-10-2009 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY (Post 10377177)
damn... i was finally getting ready to do just white led sidemarkers.... now this comes up

lemme ask you... what are you gonna do to ensure the blink right is even with the front blinkers? obviously, your gonna tap the lead off those blinkers... will that be enough? are you gonna use any relays?

Yes they blink simultaneously with the side marker cuz i have it wired to the relay positive and the Common of the relay with two diodes .

EVOLICARUS you should start charging people for this service, i'm sure almost all of us would want this done

Dont know bro this one was my first big soldering and cutting into the car mod and it got kinda rough. i got to do it again for my cousin so we'll see how easy that project goes cuz i learned alot the first time up so it should be alot easier.

rockyfeller OH WOW!!! We talked about this before and I was saying this mod was theoretically possible of course but I never thought someone would attack it! Infamous you are the MAN!! Pioneer of the Switchback Sidemarker mod!!, I never thought I'd see the day! I have to see it on the car! Imagine the triple-takes from people with 4 trick switchbacks!! CRAZY!

Should I? Should I not. You know this going to bother me so much I am going to end up doing it. Spring project!!

i think you should bro you are the LED KING in here.

Thanks for those who gave props. it was rough but after all said and done THAT SHIT LOOKS HOT and im the only ONE that has them HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

heres are some videos with them on the car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DisfmiYG95A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKpgHY_UuPk

off the major Deegan near yankee stadium. i never put on the load resistors cuz i liked the lights blinking fast for ya that notice. ENJOY!!

as for parts

PLCC-2 LED's - http://www.oznium.com/plcc-2

PC Board - http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2103798 ( or similar to it)

and resistors from Oznium.

Know your Formulas or www.ledcalc.com

i also changed up my boards from earlier becuz my resistor went MIA so i had to change to 12 leds 6 white, 6 orange

Been busy with this for a while so i got to take care of stuff at home ( WIFE) so i'll be on with a DIY type thing in a couple of days

EVOLICARUS 01-10-2009 10:22 PM

^^^that is so F'ing Tight!!!! i need this done. You should take pics for a DIY when you do your cousins car.

InFaMouSLink 01-10-2009 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by EVOLICARUS (Post 10378990)
^^^that is so F'ing Tight!!!! i need this done. You should take pics for a DIY when you do your cousins car.

will do i got some but i'll post them tomorrow.

EVOLICARUS 01-10-2009 10:29 PM

^^as much as i like the switchbacks in the headlights, i was almost ready to put back in the amber led turn signals so they match the fenders, but after seeing your thread i'm on the fence again.

ABP_04TL 01-10-2009 11:00 PM

A+++++++++++++++++

damn ma dude dat shyt looks hottttttttttttttttttttttt
Props 2 u, ur crazy tho goin out in this nasty ass weather but wat the heck, looks great
:thumbsup:


if i get to do this, i will do all 4 sidemarkers ::borat:: very nice!!!

AcuraStyle 01-10-2009 11:44 PM

I'm jealous, i think you should start up a sidemarker mod business like jnc does with headlights--- id buy a set :)

gerzand 01-11-2009 12:08 AM

beat me to it
 
haha, and this comes out just as I made a post last week that I was goona do it and am busy fabricating up my own pair. :whyme: props tho

AZN.M3NACE 01-11-2009 12:20 AM

damn! best mod ive ever seen! the DIY better be posted up soon cause im going to do this to my 3G TL once i get my hands on one this summer! hahahah

AnthraciteAspec 01-11-2009 02:14 AM

Holy shit that is so sick!!! Mucho props :bow:

Elegant TYPE S 01-11-2009 03:02 AM

Hott!!

bforbrian 01-11-2009 05:15 AM

good shit :thumbsup:

Tripnbeats 01-11-2009 09:57 AM

very nice!

InFaMouSLink 01-11-2009 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by gerzand (Post 10379322)
haha, and this comes out just as I made a post last week that I was goona do it and am busy fabricating up my own pair. :whyme: props tho

.

what you had in mind? maybe we can use a bit of each others ideas. whatever is easier cuz i know there are alot of people who wouldn't be able to do it my way. just way too much time consuming and soldering.

EVOLICARUS 01-11-2009 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by InFaMouSLink (Post 10380379)
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what you had in mind? maybe we can use a bit of each others ideas. whatever is easier cuz i know there are alot of people who wouldn't be able to do it my way. just way too much time consuming and soldering.

if my tailights were clear on the outside were i could put in 6k turn signal and have all my turn signals the same color along with the body signals, that would be the shiznet!!!

i just need to get all blinkers including the side markers to blink at the same time.

Buda 01-11-2009 02:21 PM

Did you base your resistor calculations based on 12v or 14.3?
Also did you use Minimum or Typical voltage for the LED in the calc?

Something else doesn't make sense based off you parts list. The www.ledcalc.com specifies a 1/8th watt resistor. As you got the resistors from oznium, the 150 ohm one is right for the white LEDs (assuming 12,3,20,6 input to calculation). However the 150 resistor Oznium sells is 2 watts instead of 1/8th. How is the 2 watt one working for you then?

Also the orange LEDs require less voltage and that changes the ohm rating for the resistor, where you able to get the correct resistor from Oznium or did you have to get it elsewhere?

EVOLICARUS 01-11-2009 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Buda (Post 10380716)
Did you base your resistor calculations based on 12v or 14.3?
Also did you use Minimum or Typical voltage for the LED in the calc?

Something else doesn't make sense based off you parts list. The www.ledcalc.com specifies a 1/8th watt resistor. As you got the resistors from oznium, the 150 ohm one is right for the white LEDs (assuming 12,3,20,6 input to calculation). However the 150 resistor Oznium sells is 2 watts instead of 1/8th. How is the 2 watt one working for you then?

Also the orange LEDs require less voltage and that changes the ohm rating for the resistor, where you able to get the correct resistor from Oznium or did you have to get it elsewhere?

ok, now i'm lost.. your post made me re-think that i have no idea about doing this mod. LOL

Buda 01-11-2009 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by EVOLICARUS (Post 10380785)
ok, now i'm lost.. your post made me re-think that i have no idea about doing this mod. LOL

lol, the mod still isn't hard if you are good with a soldering iron. The part you have to have right is the proper resistor on the power source leading to the LEDs. The way it looks to me right now is that the white LEDs will require two resistors like below, where as the orange LEDs may only need 1 resistor. Of course that is for a 6 LED setup. I'd like to go for 8 but need to know what are the proper values to use in the calculation as that impacts the ohm and watt rating needed for the resistor(s).

http://ledcalc.com/g.php?code=65d015...r=2&l=3&y=null

InFaMouSLink 01-11-2009 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Buda (Post 10380716)
Did you base your resistor calculations based on 12v or 14.3?
Also did you use Minimum or Typical voltage for the LED in the calc?

Something else doesn't make sense based off you parts list. The www.ledcalc.com specifies a 1/8th watt resistor. As you got the resistors from oznium, the 150 ohm one is right for the white LEDs (assuming 12,3,20,6 input to calculation). However the 150 resistor Oznium sells is 2 watts instead of 1/8th. How is the 2 watt one working for you then?

Also the orange LEDs require less voltage and that changes the ohm rating for the resistor, where you able to get the correct resistor from Oznium or did you have to get it elsewhere?

i used 14.3, typical voltage and i also used resistors from radioshack. sorry for the confusion. i used a (2) 220 ohm
1/8 W resistors for the WHITE leds and for orange i used (2) 390 1/4 watt. input 14.3,3.2,20,6 you you see actual resistance should be 235 but i also took reading on the Leds while installing in my house and voltage drop across 2 white leds at 12.4 was around 3.27 if i remember right so at 14.3 Vdrop at 14.3 would surely increase as resistance is constant and your still trying to get 20 mA but voltage has increased. 220 Ohms at 5% resistors even if voltage drop remains at 3.2 with 14.3VDC will still only have 21.3 mA. for orange i also used 2 sets of three instead of all 6 in one circuit because you shouldn't put more than 80% of the load on the circuit just for the lights and if the car was off your voltage drop would be 12 with a 12.4 VDC, with a 120 OHM resistor, your leds would be running at 3mA which would not light up anything.

Sorry for the confusion its was kinda crazy doing all this and still maintaining my wife from not killing me cuz i wasn't paying attention to her LMAO!!

im awaiting another order from Oznium with LEDS so when i get that i'll post up more pics and get more data on the leds at 12.4 Vdc and at 14.3 Vdc. on Oznium, the Leds don't have a max Vdc and usually on LED's with Current should be 20mA, max is usually going to be 30mA correct me if im wrong on that.

either way any input that can make this easier and last the longest will be greatly needed by everyone so that we can ALL have this and expect great results.

Buda 01-11-2009 03:24 PM

^-- ok, that sounds better. I thought I was loosing it for a sec.

EVOLICARUS 01-11-2009 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Buda (Post 10380870)
^-- ok, that sounds better. I thought I was loosing it for a sec.

when your ready to do this LMK! i will schedule a day off to do this..

Buda 01-11-2009 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by EVOLICARUS (Post 10381116)
when your ready to do this LMK! i will schedule a day off to do this..

Will do! I'm going to be ordering the LEDs tonight. I'll probably go ahead and order enough to do 2 sets (6 white/orange per side). It's easy enough to change resistors if needed.

Hey infamouslink, did you get the 40 amp relay from oznium or just pick up one at radio shack. Realistically a much small amperage relay will still do just fine.

EVOLICARUS 01-11-2009 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Buda (Post 10381131)
Will do! I'm going to be ordering the LEDs tonight. I'll probably go ahead and order enough to do 2 sets (6 white/orange per side). It's easy enough to change resistors if needed.

Hey infamouslink, did you get the 40 amp relay from oznium or just pick up one at radio shack. Realistically a much small amperage relay will still do just fine.

i'll paypal you tonight so we can order some more. (just in case)lets get this going!!!

want to do the foglight mod also? LOL

Buda 01-11-2009 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by EVOLICARUS (Post 10381190)
i'll paypal you tonight so we can order some more. (just in case)lets get this going!!!

want to do the foglight mod also? LOL

Foglight mod?

EVOLICARUS 01-11-2009 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Buda (Post 10381302)
Foglight mod?

the bottom grill foglight mod. it looks like fun and will need at least a 12 pack to do

Buda 01-11-2009 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by EVOLICARUS (Post 10381316)
the bottom grill foglight mod. it looks like fun and will need at least a 12 pack to do

Ahh, I'm thinking about doing something else for the lower grill. It's still a thought in progress.

InFaMouSLink 01-11-2009 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Buda (Post 10381131)
Will do! I'm going to be ordering the LEDs tonight. I'll probably go ahead and order enough to do 2 sets (6 white/orange per side). It's easy enough to change resistors if needed.

Hey infamouslink, did you get the 40 amp relay from oznium or just pick up one at radio shack. Realistically a much small amperage relay will still do just fine.



any relay will do.

gerzand 01-11-2009 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by InFaMouSLink (Post 10380379)
.

what you had in mind? maybe we can use a bit of each others ideas. whatever is easier cuz i know there are alot of people who wouldn't be able to do it my way. just way too much time consuming and soldering.

my approach is a bit different. doesnt require quite so much soldering cuz it used pre manufactured boards and no relays. I'll post the details in about a week when im done. i feel ya with the wife, this shits too time consuming to do every day!


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