Switchback comparison: eBay vs V-LEDs vs Autolumination
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Switchback comparison: eBay vs V-LEDs vs Autolumination
In the following video I demo and review two different Switchback bulbs.
Driver side - Autolumination 120LED Switchbacks (Type-2)
http://autolumination.com/7443_7440.htm
http://autolumination.com/images/aut...0led_wa_wm.jpg
Passenger side - V-LEDs 48LED Switchbacks (Type-2)
http://www.v-leds.com/6K-TYPE-2-DUAL...89718-1-2.html
Notes are in the video. Overall conclusion: V-LEDs are more bang for your buck. They're both just as bright as one another and the V-LEDs have a 'truer' white. Also if you have an alarm/keyless entry installed that pulses the parking lights for lock and/or unlock the V-LEDs light up accordingly whereas the Autolumination bulbs do not due to their turn-on delay.
Video:
Please excuse the quality of the video. It was taken with an old point-and-shoot digital camera.
Next I will be reviewing an eBay Type1 switchback against these.
Comments and criticism welcome
Driver side - Autolumination 120LED Switchbacks (Type-2)
http://autolumination.com/7443_7440.htm
http://autolumination.com/images/aut...0led_wa_wm.jpg
Passenger side - V-LEDs 48LED Switchbacks (Type-2)
http://www.v-leds.com/6K-TYPE-2-DUAL...89718-1-2.html
Notes are in the video. Overall conclusion: V-LEDs are more bang for your buck. They're both just as bright as one another and the V-LEDs have a 'truer' white. Also if you have an alarm/keyless entry installed that pulses the parking lights for lock and/or unlock the V-LEDs light up accordingly whereas the Autolumination bulbs do not due to their turn-on delay.
Video:
Please excuse the quality of the video. It was taken with an old point-and-shoot digital camera.
Next I will be reviewing an eBay Type1 switchback against these.
Comments and criticism welcome
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Good review, thanks man!
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I'll be making a video with daylight tomorrow and uploading that as well. My goal is to have a total of 3 videos or one long one comparing all 3
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Nice vid. It might be the angle or my eyes playing tricks on me, but I feel like the Autolumination switchbacks look slightly brighter in your vid.
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Actually on second thought, I believe stock Type-S headlights are already clear where the signal bulb shines through. If so then you don't need to clear them out. Simply add in the switchback bulbs. I think the amber part in the Type-S headlights is just a reflector and not a diffuser.
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Actually on second thought, I believe stock Type-S headlights are already clear where the signal bulb shines through. If so then you don't need to clear them out. Simply add in the switchback bulbs. I think the amber part in the Type-S headlights is just a reflector and not a diffuser.
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They come on whenever your parking lights are on. So they'll come on either when you have you headlights switch set to parking lights or when the headlights are on. I'm going post another video today of them used during the day if I get time.
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You should take the video during the day, that's how you will be able to distinguish which one is actually brighter.
LEDs aren't very bright during the day. At night it's a whole different ball game.
Can you take a similar video but sometime in the afternoon with the sun out beaming??
LEDs aren't very bright during the day. At night it's a whole different ball game.
Can you take a similar video but sometime in the afternoon with the sun out beaming??
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Definitely get a close up of the VLED light, they're only 48 LED and I'm highly considering getting those, only thing holding me back is the brightness.
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You should take the video during the day, that's how you will be able to distinguish which one is actually brighter.
LEDs aren't very bright during the day. At night it's a whole different ball game.
Can you take a similar video but sometime in the afternoon with the sun out beaming??
LEDs aren't very bright during the day. At night it's a whole different ball game.
Can you take a similar video but sometime in the afternoon with the sun out beaming??
If you end up liking them PM me, i've got an extra set brand new still sealed in original packaging. I'll sell them cheaper than V-LEDs themselves with free shipping.
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Ohh, I'll hold you up to it then
I'll see after you post up this vid
I'll see after you post up this vid
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Made a new video today. I'm going to make a new thread for it tomorrow. I did eBay vs V-LED vs Autolumination and this time I did it during the day as requested
I'll post a link to it in this thread once it's up. Just editing now. I will post details in the post and video description of which bulbs were tested, price, and where to get them. Stay tuned!
I'll post a link to it in this thread once it's up. Just editing now. I will post details in the post and video description of which bulbs were tested, price, and where to get them. Stay tuned!
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Food for thought, I have the V-LEDS type 2 and most times after they are warmed up I get a type 1 style blinking with the amber white amber white instead of amber off amber off that they are supposed to be.
This is really upsetting. I am still waiting for a bullet-proof type 2 bulb to switch to. Otherwise I am happy with mine for now.
This is really upsetting. I am still waiting for a bullet-proof type 2 bulb to switch to. Otherwise I am happy with mine for now.
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New thread with 3 bulbs reviewed in daytime here: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...1#post13887591
enjoy
Mods can close or lock this one I guess since it's a little redundant now.
EDIT: New thread was closed so I'll add the info here.
eBay bulb (Type 1) - 120 (60/60)LED $56/pair
V-LEDs bulb (Type 2) - 48 (24/24)LED $35/pair
Autolumination (Type2) - 120 (40/80)LED $70/pair
eBay bulb was left in the passenger side and driver side alternated between V-LEDs and Autolumination.
Personally I prefer the eBay Type 1 bulbs. The white is brighter than the Autolumination and V-LEDs bulb. Also with the Autolumination bulbs there is a bit of a delay for the white to turn on so if you have an alarm installed that flashes the parking lights to indicate lock/unlock they will not illuminate whereas the eBay or V-LEDs do.
Autolumination did not list the temperature color for their bulbs.
V-LEDs were listed to be 6000k
eBay bulbs were listed to be 6500k but looked closer to 5000k or 6000k
I personally like the Type 1 style better than Type 2 and the fact that they were brighter and closer to white than the V-LEDs make them safer to use during the day since LEDs are typically a bit dimmer than halogen incandescent bulbs.
In my opinion the eBay Type 1 bulbs are more bang for your buck but if you prefer Type 2 flashing then V-LEDs would be better as they seemed to be just as bright as the Autolumination bulbs for less money and without startup delay.
eBay seller wx-led has over 1500 transactions with a 99.5% positive feedback score. He didn't have the bulbs listed so I messaged him. What he had me do is purchase a set of 3157 bulbs and just specify in the "note to seller" what kind of bulbs I wanted. I stated that I wanted "120LED 60/60 Type 1 Switchback bulbs size 7443".
enjoy
Mods can close or lock this one I guess since it's a little redundant now.
EDIT: New thread was closed so I'll add the info here.
eBay bulb (Type 1) - 120 (60/60)LED $56/pair
V-LEDs bulb (Type 2) - 48 (24/24)LED $35/pair
Autolumination (Type2) - 120 (40/80)LED $70/pair
eBay bulb was left in the passenger side and driver side alternated between V-LEDs and Autolumination.
Personally I prefer the eBay Type 1 bulbs. The white is brighter than the Autolumination and V-LEDs bulb. Also with the Autolumination bulbs there is a bit of a delay for the white to turn on so if you have an alarm installed that flashes the parking lights to indicate lock/unlock they will not illuminate whereas the eBay or V-LEDs do.
Autolumination did not list the temperature color for their bulbs.
V-LEDs were listed to be 6000k
eBay bulbs were listed to be 6500k but looked closer to 5000k or 6000k
I personally like the Type 1 style better than Type 2 and the fact that they were brighter and closer to white than the V-LEDs make them safer to use during the day since LEDs are typically a bit dimmer than halogen incandescent bulbs.
In my opinion the eBay Type 1 bulbs are more bang for your buck but if you prefer Type 2 flashing then V-LEDs would be better as they seemed to be just as bright as the Autolumination bulbs for less money and without startup delay.
eBay seller wx-led has over 1500 transactions with a 99.5% positive feedback score. He didn't have the bulbs listed so I messaged him. What he had me do is purchase a set of 3157 bulbs and just specify in the "note to seller" what kind of bulbs I wanted. I stated that I wanted "120LED 60/60 Type 1 Switchback bulbs size 7443".
Last edited by Steven Bell; 07-11-2012 at 10:15 PM. Reason: Merged Posts.
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FWIW, the 1157 type 1 switchbacks I got from ebay (wx-led) are not 60/60. They are 40/60 like the Autolumination bulbs. To my knowledge the 1157's don't come in 60/60, but I could be wrong. I agree with you though....the ebay bulbs are definitely the best!
Yes.
Yes.
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Does Superbrightleds (one of our vendors) have these as well?
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Super Bright LEDs is a distributor of LEDs and LED products including all types of 12 volt car bulbs (excluding headlights), light bars & strips, LED modules, accessories and more. All products in our online store are in stock and available for immediate purchase online.
Basic Vendor listing is managed by: Adam@SuperBrightLeds - Send a private message
Super Bright LEDs
http://www.superbrightleds.com
Phone number: 314-972-6200
St. Louis, MO 63045
Super Bright LEDs is a distributor of LEDs and LED products including all types of 12 volt car bulbs (excluding headlights), light bars & strips, LED modules, accessories and more. All products in our online store are in stock and available for immediate purchase online.
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Yes, any lights that are not incandescent halogens will require resistors as far as I know.
The seller told me they were 60/60. I personally didn't bench test those so I could be mistaken. I'm going to order another set soon to keep as a spare since all lights eventually burn out and I'll test those and report back. Also these are 7443, not 1157. Shouldn't really make a difference other than the base I would think.
The seller told me they were 60/60. I personally didn't bench test those so I could be mistaken. I'm going to order another set soon to keep as a spare since all lights eventually burn out and I'll test those and report back. Also these are 7443, not 1157. Shouldn't really make a difference other than the base I would think.
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^You can actually look at the bulb and see which individual LED's are white vs. amber. I believe mine are 80-amber, 40-white.
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That's what I'm going to do when I bench test the new set. Can't see mine too well in my housings since I had the reflector painted black and the clear diffuser smoked.
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[QUOTE=LockDots;13887741]Yes, any lights that are not incandescent halogens will require resistors as far as I know.
sorry for the noob question but does the resistor kit come w/ the bulbs or is it something that need to be purchase separately?
i'm talkin about the ebay bulbs to be specific
thanks
sorry for the noob question but does the resistor kit come w/ the bulbs or is it something that need to be purchase separately?
i'm talkin about the ebay bulbs to be specific
thanks
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[QUOTE=07_J35A8_noob;13895929]
eBay bulbs did not come with resistors. Resistors will be needed with almost every LED bulb out there. Even the bulbs that claim to be 'error-free' typically end up requiring load resistors anyway.
Yes, any lights that are not incandescent halogens will require resistors as far as I know.
sorry for the noob question but does the resistor kit come w/ the bulbs or is it something that need to be purchase separately?
i'm talkin about the ebay bulbs to be specific
thanks
sorry for the noob question but does the resistor kit come w/ the bulbs or is it something that need to be purchase separately?
i'm talkin about the ebay bulbs to be specific
thanks
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alright, I need some help...
I have an 04 Base TL, and I am running LED blinkers in my tails, and LED blinkers in my headlights.
I purchased the 60 LED bulbs from autolumination, the vendor discussed in the first post...
Driver side - Autolumination 120LED Switchbacks (Type-2)
http://autolumination.com/7443_7440.htm
http://autolumination.com/images/aut...0led_wa_wm.jpg
I have 3.5 (i think)ohm Load resistors on the blinker circuit on each side of the car, and the switchbacks work perfectly 95% of the time. They are type 2, so they blink amber off amber off, when I have the blinker on...
However, sometimes they blink amber white amber white, its a quick flash of the white, and I am not sure how to fix it or what to do...
AckTL05 told me that I can't use the 120 LED bulb, and I need to go to less LEDs, and I believe him since he knows his shit when it comes to these TLs, but I am just wondering if anyone else has this issue? Are you all Type S, or are there Base TLs using these 120 LED bulbs also?
I have an 04 Base TL, and I am running LED blinkers in my tails, and LED blinkers in my headlights.
I purchased the 60 LED bulbs from autolumination, the vendor discussed in the first post...
Driver side - Autolumination 120LED Switchbacks (Type-2)
http://autolumination.com/7443_7440.htm
http://autolumination.com/images/aut...0led_wa_wm.jpg
I have 3.5 (i think)ohm Load resistors on the blinker circuit on each side of the car, and the switchbacks work perfectly 95% of the time. They are type 2, so they blink amber off amber off, when I have the blinker on...
However, sometimes they blink amber white amber white, its a quick flash of the white, and I am not sure how to fix it or what to do...
AckTL05 told me that I can't use the 120 LED bulb, and I need to go to less LEDs, and I believe him since he knows his shit when it comes to these TLs, but I am just wondering if anyone else has this issue? Are you all Type S, or are there Base TLs using these 120 LED bulbs also?
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AckTL05 told me that I can't use the 120 LED bulb, and I need to go to less LEDs, and I believe him since he knows his shit when it comes to these TLs, but I am just wondering if anyone else has this issue? Are you all Type S, or are there Base TLs using these 120 LED bulbs also?
It should not matter if you have a Type-S or a Base TL.
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alright, I need some help...
I have an 04 Base TL, and I am running LED blinkers in my tails, and LED blinkers in my headlights.
I purchased the 60 LED bulbs from autolumination, the vendor discussed in the first post...
Driver side - Autolumination 120LED Switchbacks (Type-2)
http://autolumination.com/7443_7440.htm
http://autolumination.com/images/aut...0led_wa_wm.jpg
I have 3.5 (i think)ohm Load resistors on the blinker circuit on each side of the car, and the switchbacks work perfectly 95% of the time. They are type 2, so they blink amber off amber off, when I have the blinker on...
However, sometimes they blink amber white amber white, its a quick flash of the white, and I am not sure how to fix it or what to do...
AckTL05 told me that I can't use the 120 LED bulb, and I need to go to less LEDs, and I believe him since he knows his shit when it comes to these TLs, but I am just wondering if anyone else has this issue? Are you all Type S, or are there Base TLs using these 120 LED bulbs also?
I have an 04 Base TL, and I am running LED blinkers in my tails, and LED blinkers in my headlights.
I purchased the 60 LED bulbs from autolumination, the vendor discussed in the first post...
Driver side - Autolumination 120LED Switchbacks (Type-2)
http://autolumination.com/7443_7440.htm
http://autolumination.com/images/aut...0led_wa_wm.jpg
I have 3.5 (i think)ohm Load resistors on the blinker circuit on each side of the car, and the switchbacks work perfectly 95% of the time. They are type 2, so they blink amber off amber off, when I have the blinker on...
However, sometimes they blink amber white amber white, its a quick flash of the white, and I am not sure how to fix it or what to do...
AckTL05 told me that I can't use the 120 LED bulb, and I need to go to less LEDs, and I believe him since he knows his shit when it comes to these TLs, but I am just wondering if anyone else has this issue? Are you all Type S, or are there Base TLs using these 120 LED bulbs also?
The autolumination bulbs (I believe) have a resistor-capacitor circuit in them to preven the white from turning on too quickly. If you notice in my videos (especially the first) there's a bit of a delay when turning them on. I'm not sure why exactly but if you ever get a white-amber blink then there could be something wrong with them since they should be blinking amber-off.
I am running the ebay 120 LED bulbs with no issues. I did the resistor mod in this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=815219
It should not matter if you have a Type-S or a Base TL.
It should not matter if you have a Type-S or a Base TL.
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beside, do u happen to know where can i get those LED DRLs? i've been lookin everywhere but no luck.
i went on V-leds but the only car i found was lexus.
http://autolumination.com/ is too confusing. not sure which one is which
no luck on ebay at all
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well, too late, i worked out a deal on ebay store and got both 120 LEDs + load resistors for 59 shipped. not too bad if u ask me.
beside, do u happen to know where can i get those LED DRLs? i've been lookin everywhere but no luck.
i went on V-leds but the only car i found was lexus.
http://autolumination.com/ is too confusing. not sure which one is which
no luck on ebay at all
beside, do u happen to know where can i get those LED DRLs? i've been lookin everywhere but no luck.
i went on V-leds but the only car i found was lexus.
http://autolumination.com/ is too confusing. not sure which one is which
no luck on ebay at all
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not gona lie, this car is much more complicated than my last one lol
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I'm sure you got your answer by now but I just realized I never responded to this post. Yes, the lights themselves are plug and play but you'll need load resistors or mod your flasher relay to avoid hyperflashing. Unless you're into that sort of thing
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Im looking to buy the double halo headlights on ebay for my 04 TL. The ebay rep told me I needed the corner light socket piece that is stock on 06s and above. I also want to use switchbacks and am trying to research the best ones...This thread has helped but I still cant decide!! Can anyone tell me what the part # for the socket might be and where I can find it?