Which car do you think would win from a dig: Hyundai Genesis 2.0T AT vs. 2004 Honda Accord V6?

The Accord belongs to my friend, the Genesis is my classmate's. Genesis driver just got his car, and is talking smack, saying that his car is better than the Accord. Accord driver wants to challenge him to a race to end it.

I think the Genesis is something like 210 horsepower, while the Accord is 240. Which would win from a dig to about 1/2 mile?

 

I'd give it to the accord.

 

Considering the accord driver doesn't completely fail on launch, he should win stock for stock. At a half mile even the launch shouldn't matter too much.

I imagine that 2.0T will respond very well to mods, though. It won't take much before the accord is a miniature figure in his rearview if he starts with some breathing mods and a tune.

 

Genesis driver plans on an intake and axleback. I don't think it'll be enough to change the outcome of the race, however.

 

Not likely without tuning. The biggest gains he will see is + boost and timing.

 

accord unless the driver is completely incompetent

 

+1

 

I've driven both; gotta go with the AV6 6MT.

 

The 3.8L V6 6MT Genesis is slightly faster than a stock 6MT Accord (based on mags). I haven't seen one on the street yet nor seen any videos posted. With that said, the 2.0T is slower than the 6MT Genesis, your friend should have no problem. Honestly, even if he misses a gear I think he will catch up and pull, especially if the 2.0T is auto.

I watched an Edmunds (I think?) video of the 2.0T auto vs Civic SI around the track and the guy said the SI felt faster. It was 1 or 2 seconds quicker around the track too. Go find out!

 

accord will win.

 

I agree with the people who stated the 6MT Accord is faster. The 2.0 Genesis with the MT is a high 14 second vehicle at best in stock form. A 3.8L would be a great drivers race though. Would love to see one go head to head with the accord 6MT!

 

Did they do it?

 

I kno someone that just bought the 3.8... Heard its quick and nice as hell

 

Are you tight with that individual? See if you can get a ride in it or better yet, drive it and come back to tell us how it is if possible.

 

I've driven the 3.8L 6MT and it can give the AV6 6MT a good run for the money. Not for nothing, I found it to be at least as sweet a ride as the AV6 and a worthy alternative particularly for those who desire a G37 type coupe but have an AV6 type budget.

 

jjashaa just bought a 3.8.

There's a deserted road about a 1/2 mile long north of the city that they'll be using for the race. Wish it was a drag strip but there are none close to the area. They're planning on going after the first day back at school, the 4th.

 

I agree with what you said. The Accord 6MT just needs the RWD option and were set! haha

 

Genesis Coupe 3.8 MT is notorious for its poor acceleration due severe power cut during hard shifts. The best I've seen was around 14.3 sec ET@ 97 mph. 3.8 AT has no power cut between shifts so therefore faster, 14 sec@ 101 mph. With AT being easier to launch I would recommend the 3.8 Auto for 0-60 and quarter mile runs. Stock for stock 3.8 AT should edge out Accord V6 regardless of transmission type. Also the handling and cornering is far superior to the Accord. For handling it's comparable to the TL-S 6MT which handles way better than the Accord.

 

The best time I have seen for a stock 8th Gen Accord V6 6MT is a 13.9@102MPH all stock. Definantly a drivers race between the accord 6MT and genesis 3.8L MT or AT. Handling goes to the Genesis like you said. the accord does well for what it is but is no cornering god thats for sure. in the straight line the accord will suprise you for what it is.

 

lol.

 

Haha sorry forgot about this thread! No, they didn't go at it. We've been hit with quite a bit of snow yesterday and today. Postponed indefinetely.

 

Is that a drag time or mag time? Sounds like a drag time.

Genesis 3.8 time I spoke was from the magazine. I would predict that it will have lower times at the drag strips.

 

I believe that's what Edmunds got for it. And we all know Edmunds doesn't have the greatest drivers. I didn't think the extra power would be enough to compensate for the extra weight it has over the 7th gen. I guess I was wrong because that's a strong trap for stock.

 

that is a drag time posted by mickav6 with his 09 accord v6 coupe 6mt before his mods. Now he runs 13.4's all day long at 105+MPH with stock tires and basic bolt-ons

 

While this is true...he runs in Quebec!! It's -35237532 degrees there! That track is notorious for the best times ever. I wish I ran in absolute zero temps

But, just because he runs at that track you can't take it away from him. Great times and traps!

 

I am jealous that he has very optimal conditions! Most of us aren't so lucky! I am here in tucson, racing at 3075ft with terrible DA conditions. I would trade anyday to see what I could run in quebec.

 

I'm not certain about Etown but Atco Raceway opens up in late Feb so there's always a chance for you to do just that next month.

 

way to tip the cops off

 

^ they didn't show up, so I guess it's all good, haha.

Ran today. Genesis driver did full launch, Accord driver didn't get any wheelspin at launch at all. Genesis got a full car on the Accord, but quickly and steadily the Accord caught up and was soon history. The Accord won by about 3-4 car lengths, by my estimate. It was a pretty fun time, and the guys joked about it later. The Genesis was on winter tires, the Accord on all-seasons.

 

Good shit brah.

 

Not bad, not bad. Don't know if it effects much with snow tires, but factory boosted cars usually have good low end torque for the jump.

 

Imagine if the accord actually launched the car. He would have beat that 2.0 genesis down even harder haha. Would love to see the same race against the 3.8L.

 

The sad thing is that all the 2.0T needs is intake/downpipe/exhaust and should easily keep up with the stock 6MT Accord. With a tune and those mods they make 230+/260tq.

 

no doubt bro that the 2.0T can make some good power with few mods thanks to the Turbo. I would still rather rock the accord 6MT over the 2.0T Genesis. I much prefer the N/A V6.

 

If someone like boost, factory boosted cars will always make good power for cheap (to certain limit thou).

 

it was fun. I still don't condone street racing, though.
I think they'd've been close if the Accord had done a full launch.

maybe it's an ownership thing. Accord driver is paying for his car on his own, Genesis driver had his car bought for him by his parents. And I think the 3.8 would absolutely terrorize the 7th gen coupe from the jump. An 8th gen 6-6 coupe vs. the 3.8 from a roll, now that would be a race.

There's much more aftermarket support for the J-series than there is for the 2.0, though, isn't there?

VTEC FTW! haha I would do, although that's not a fair opinion.

I think modifying boosted cars gives you the best bang for the buck, but I'd rather start with an N/A engine if I were to completely rebuild it.

 

The accord guy obviously has a lot of respect for his car.


There is a lot of aftermarket support for the J-series but when it comes to the Turbo engines it is really easy to increase hp and tq mod for mod vs the N/A engine in most cases.

 

There is a fair amount of aftermarket support for the Jseries but Satin is right, when it comes to turbo vs. NA, turbo cars are MUCH more efficient in terms of mods.

I disagree. I think the 7th gen 6MT vs the 3.8 6MT would be a drivers race. The Genesis I think would have a slight edge but mod-for-mod who knows.

 

The quickest 7th-gen Accord had a 244 horsepower engine and a 0-60 time of 5.9-6.2. I'm not familiar with the 3.8s 0-60 or either car's quarter-mile, but the Genesis I know is a ~300 horsepower car. It probably weighs more, but I don't think it's nearly enough to make up for a +50 horse advantage.

 

Stock for stock the Genesis 3.8 6MT or 6AT should edge out a 7th gen 6MT from a roll or a dig. An I/E 7th gen 6MT should put up a good fight, and any more than that should edge out the Genesis. It really comes down to the driver.