veggiemonster

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hey guys. so i am new here, and i've been trying to read up on TL's, but most of the info i'm searching for, ends up having 6-7 pages with a LOT of filler material; or the threads are a few years old so i can't exactly ask for clarification. so please bear with me (mods too if this is not the proper section for this) since these will probably all have been covered before.

first off, the TL is not my first drive-by-wire car. my 02 audi which i just came from was also an electronic throttle. now at first i thought that it was just me getting used to the floor mount style pedal, but it seems to be something with the tuning of it.

anyways, i have a big issue with how slow the car drops rpm during shifts. i mean its literally bad enough that i almost get rear ended by the cars behind me leaving lights on the 1-2 shift. does anyone else notice this??? the engine revs pretty fast IMO, and i was thinking that there was some programing like the K-series cars that can be removed through tuning, is that a correct assumption? what exactly would i need to do to correct this?

another thing which is far more disturbing....if i rev/accl/wot up to or beyond 4700-5000 rpm, the clutch pedal gets extremely stiff along with the engagement moving to the floor; if i pump the pedal about 3-4 times it goes back to normal. i've never heard of this symptom before, and really wondering what's going on.

lastly, my shifter definitely needs some TLC it seems, as it feels very sloppy compared to the last 6mt i had, and i have a very irritating issue when shifting from 5-6...its almost as if the reverse lockout is interfering, and "nudging" it into the 4th gear gate. without any real feel telling you its happening....any idea's on that? will the comptech short shifter and the HT-bushings help me there? it seems a cheap and good choice to buy none the less.

thanks in advance guys!!!!

justnspace

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I changed out my clutch on 11/05/10 and it solved my stiff pedal.


I posted this 8/17/2010.
8/17/2010

2 months after I posted these, my clutch started to slip in 5th and 6th gear.

Here is my thread, showing pictures of my abused clutch.
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/take-look-slightly-abused-clutch-797628/#post12476652

veggiemonster

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thank you justin. i was actually hoping you would have some more answers for me!!!! []

i was worried that was the cause. the car has 143k on it (rolled over yesterday) and i guess a 50+ year old Korean man owned it before me. but, there was a guy who had the car for a week before the bank denied his loan attempt. i'm betting he beat the crap out of the car...sadly

veggiemonster

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shit....before i forget.

final question
how often do people end up with a clogged cat(s)??? i'm getting that smell of rotten eggs, and i'm just wondering if its common. or which is more common to clog, the pre cats or main?

if my precats are clogged, could i get PCD's and use the stock j pipe?

Thanks for everything you guys can offer to help,
Sean

Bleak

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I never had anything like a rotten egg smell or clogged cats but what we call the precats on this site are the 2 main cats right off the block. The other catalytic converter (known as the 3rd cat here) is after the jpipe merge. Not sure what you meant by main.

and just fyi, yea you could get PCDs and use stock jpipe. Just know that you will fail inspections without precats (if your state requires them). Im sure someone else here has more experience with cats clogging and can help you out more.

justnspace

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I'm not sure of your RPM dropping slowly issue.

about your cat question, we have 3 cats.
2 "pre" and 1 after the jpipe.

the third one is useless.there are no sensors and its only there to bring the car to a ULEV II rating. From my understanding.

so the two mains are what's probably going bad.

ez12a

I hear you on the RPM drop (or lack of) on the 1-2 shift.

I'm guessing it's the way the throttle is programmed. I've read of civic Si's doing the same thing. It holds onto the throttle for a good second after getting your foot off the gas before it even starts declining.

I just get around it by shifting at a higher RPM in 1st to get myself moving.

veggiemonster

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yes it's called "rev hang" or something, basically so the non enthusiast can feel like they are on a "sunday drive"

on the new civics with the k20z3 or w/e, they use hondata to get rid of it. is there an option like that for us??

veggiemonster

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ahhh. so what would be pre cats are the mains, with an extra one which is larger.

okay then, i will be taking some time to pull the j pipe off to inspect all 3 cats for carbon clogging, then see what i need (PCD's or PCD+J-Pipe)

i have emissions here, but all i'll need to do is keep the CEL off the dash and i'll pass. OBDII makes life easy!!!

veggiemonster

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bump for any other info, especially the rev-hang stuff

please and thank you, gentlemen!

Bleak

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Yea exactly, the 3rd cat after the jpipe doesn't even have a sensor on it and is purely for the ULEV rating of the car. Not having it won't change emissions in a noticeable way in sniffer tests.

and if all you need is no CEL, I'm jealous

veggiemonster

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lol. yeah they stopped doing the treadmill style emissions here. just the OBD readiness scan

thanks for the clarification!