Was shopping for a TL but recent sightings of S4's have changed my mind. That is a way better looking car!!!!!! Don't get me wrong, the TL looks nice, but up against the S4, it has NOTHING. Looks like I will be buying the S4 because it has a killer front end, back end, and interior to die for. Not to mention, not everyone has one. =)

 

For 17k more, it better be better in every way. The S4 is one of my favorite car, after the E46 M3.

 

s4 can outrun a m3.... it is in different league dude... not a very comparison...

like we never compare TL to sentra

 

Even the A4 for that matter puts a WHOOPIN on the TL.

 

i would think the Audis also win in higher repair bills
heh heh

 

The S4 and the M3 aren't in the same league!? Whatever ... dude.

 

x'scuse me?

 

Yeah ... that's another "WTF!?"

 

If you're going to smoke that stuff be kind enough to pass it around...

 

For $$$ issue, S4 should be better. Otherwise, it's worthless/useless.

I like its style if comparing with A4. But is it small as A4?

 

Same chassis and body. I test drove an A4 with the ultra sports package (which basically makes it look like an S4). Too slow.

 

Puff Puff Pass.....

The S4 is a special edition Audi. It better be better. But for 45k for an S4 and 41k for a TL A-spec, that at least is closer in price (comparison wise).

Silly comparo.

 

What?? The new S4 with V8 and 340 hp is still slower than the E46 M3 with V6 333 hp last I checked......

 

Most of the track times I've seen have them pretty close, leading me to assume that it's driver-dependent.

 

If you can afford the S4 -- get it... you'll never regret it

 

Not for the first four years they don't. Everything, all scheduled maintenance and parts are free throughout the warranty period (4/50). That includes normal wear & tear items like oil, wiper blades, brakes, clutch, whatever, free. After that, look out.

 

What a POS :lol1: .....It doesn't even look that good, I mean I like the looks, but not enough to diss the TL.

For $51k (navi, XM, premium sound, heated seats)
You get a few seconds faster
S4 5.3 (manual)
TL 6.2 (manual) (magazine)

S4 14/20 mpg :banghead:
TL 20/30 mpg

Give me a break...... And about the interior " to die for " :yack: yeah OK.

 

I hope for your sake you’re short.
I'm 6'3" and when I drove the A4 3.2 Quatro, there was no room for a passenger behind me...even my 9 year old daughter couldn't fit.
So you might as well get a Porsche.
The TL carries four comfortably with me at the wheel.
Something to consider...

 

Uhhh, are you on crack? A Type-S would put a A4 to shame..and I couldn't imagine what a TL6 would do to it...

 

Question is......why does someone feel the need to come in and rag on the TL when it's clear the other car simply is not in the same category. I doubt there's many Tl owners going in a "Civic" forum to brag how much better a TL is! Anything that costs THAT much more OUGHT to provide better performance.....better styling.....better SOMETHING. Sheesh!

 

give me two years my TL with about 3 grand and i will rip apart any S4.

 

Before I bought the TL I looked at everything, the A4, S4, A6, A6 S-line. All nice cars.
The A-6 S-line was the most impressive to me, 2.7 turbo. with PCM upgrade and exhaust they push 325HP and AWD.
But alas the drink holders sucked and the A4/S4, as nice as they are, ARE to small inside.
Although I wish the A-spec included Recaro seats! like the S4.
Other cars that are too small inside are the Infiniti G35, any BMW 3 series and 5 series, and others like the Accord.

What I think sets the TL apart from the others, at least interior wise, is the high belt line which allows more shoulder room (side to side) for drivers and passengers.

I also felt the Caddy CTS had good interior room, infact that almost got my vote and purchase.

IMHO anyway.

 

No doubt you may hang with an S4 on the straights, but once you go to the twisties.......the S4 quattro (all wheel drive) will probably dust the front wheel drive TL....

 

I doubt the clutch is covered under any warranty. No manufacturer can anticipate how the clutch will be used/abused. It's not considered a normal wear and tear item on any car that I've ever heard of before.

 

When i posted that the A4 puts a WHOOPIN on the TL, I mean't aesthetics. The A4 has WAYYYYY better curb appeal than the TL. I mean just while test driving one, at a red light, I had two chicks lookin at it. =)

 

I guess it takes a "A4" to be looked at by females huh?

I do pretty good with my TL

 

So true. The S4 is the only Audi I'd buy, but with a sticker price of $50k+ for a similarly equipped car, it ain't a fair comparison. The more comparable car is the A4 1.8T, and I'd take the TL over that car without question.

 

Just yesterday two girls almost crashed into a mailbox bc they were lookin at the TL. And before that two girls in 745 LI tried to follow me home but took them through the twisties and lost them . Do I really need to go on. Plus there is a girl i know that has an A4 and she envys my car. Man give it up the A4 is outclassed by the TL

 

Honest, it's true.

 

If you really need your car to get a girl's attention, then you REALLY have some issues to worry about outside of what some guy on a web forum thinks of your car.

 

:lol1: @ his link. :lol1:

 

Before I got my S4, I had a legend. My friend has a TL. I was very familiar with Acura's. I LOVED my Legend. 92 2 dr coupe, 5 speed. When the chance arose to trade it in for an S4, I did it in a heartbeat. Now I loved both my Legend and my friend's TL, but to me, neither offered what the S4 did. It looked sweet, better than the TL and questionable whether I thought it looked better than the Legend. Much faster with potential for a lot more speed. AWD. Two turbos, although not anymore stupid v8's. The interior IMHO looks a lot nicer in the S4. The wood didn't look plasticy like it does in my friend's TL. Actually it was a grey maplewood interior that I did not see on ANY other cars until Jag came out with the X-type. As for the size, I didn't care. The back seat was used so seldom that it was a non-issue for me. Had I needed a back seat than it would not have been the right car for me. Everyone has their opinions, and mine is that the S4 is nicer than the TL, even though the TL is a nice car in its own respect. Also, I wanted a manual which at the time was not offered on the TL.

 

uh, i guess you didn't read the previous page cuz he was being sarcastic to the guy saying the a4 gets looks from girls. read everything before you start talking.

 

agreed

 

...and for the same price as the TL, you can get an STI.

 

i was just sayin i got a gf so whatever

 

I'm curious about your preference for the twin turbo. Doesn't the V8 offer more HP, more torque, and wider powerband without the lag (admittedly at the expense of some unsprung front end mass)?I agree with you, Audi interiors are sweet. Your take on the wood trim made me smile. The TL's looks "plasticy" because that's exactly what it is, while the Audi's is the real thing. I do think that this year's TL interior stands right up there with Audis in styling, materials, surfaces (faux wood excluded), switchgear, and finish. I prefer Honda/Acura ergonomics to Audi's.

 

that's cuz A4's a chick's car.. chicks look good driving one. it's like a VW rabbit convertible. chicks will look at it because they think they'll look cute in it. though ask any of those girls what they think if a guy was driving it and you'll get a whole different response *snicker*

 

i've owned both.

In addition to the $17k price difference, you may want to save for increased gasoline bills, service

Repairs? Valve jobs, window regulators, replacement wheels (scratches or bends, your choice), and a national organization (Audi/VW) that denies anything is their fault.

but as I said, it's your choice. Oh, and nice lack of full-color navi display - Audi doesn't offer that on the A4/A6/S4 yet because of some excuse or another... MMI will fix that.

 

You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't think that's even a little bit true. We can debate cost, features, handling, performance, styling, etc until we all turn blue, but an A4 is still one sweet ride.