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02-18-2004, 04:47 PM
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No trolling. Been here longer than you buddy. Also owned a CL-S per my name if you look. lol
No trolling. Been here longer than you buddy. Also owned a CL-S per my name if you look. lol
lol
02-18-2004, 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by mspence3
brahtw8, please don't be angry. I was just joking. Since I don't post much on the forum, I don't use the smilies as I should.
brahtw8, please don't be angry. I was just joking. Since I don't post much on the forum, I don't use the smilies as I should.
I think you will find I reserve my wrath for those who deserve it.
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Originally posted by vandy786
If you really do have a G35, how do you find so much time to post and reply to everyone? I have a 2002 TLS and can barely keep up with the threads on this site alone. lol
If you really do have a G35, how do you find so much time to post and reply to everyone? I have a 2002 TLS and can barely keep up with the threads on this site alone.
lol
http://www.g35world.com/g35/g35
I picked it up 1.5 weeks ago. I don't read every topic, I just scan to see the interesting ones.
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
I do own one...
http://www.g35world.com/g35/g35
I picked it up 1.5 weeks ago. I don't read every topic, I just scan to see the interesting ones.
I do own one...
http://www.g35world.com/g35/g35
I picked it up 1.5 weeks ago. I don't read every topic, I just scan to see the interesting ones.
Word has it that those two cars run neck and neck with one-another...
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Originally posted by harddrivin1le
Have you raced any stripped Altima V6/5 speeds with it yet?
Word has it that those two cars run neck and neck with one-another...
Have you raced any stripped Altima V6/5 speeds with it yet?
Word has it that those two cars run neck and neck with one-another...
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The inside of the G is nice, but almost identical to it's cheaper Maxima cousin as far as the wheel and center console/controls area. I also found the backseat a tab small for normal sized adults.
Nice ride SilverbulletCLS!
Nice ride SilverbulletCLS!
02-18-2004, 06:14 PM
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Looks nice, BTW. I am no G35 hater. If the G35x was offered with a 6MT, it may be sitting in my garage right now.
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
I haven't had one race yet. Still breaking it in.
I haven't had one race yet. Still breaking it in.
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2133.shtml
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Originally posted by harddrivin1le
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2105.shtml
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2133.shtml
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2105.shtml
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2133.shtml
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
Automatic G...and a slow time at that.
Automatic G...and a slow time at that.
02-18-2004, 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by harddrivin1le
Show me a test of ANY stock G with ANY tranmission that was able to outrun that little Altima (which can be purchased in the Boston area for ~ $21,500).
Show me a test of ANY stock G with ANY tranmission that was able to outrun that little Altima (which can be purchased in the Boston area for ~ $21,500).
Magazine, 0-60, 1/4 mile, Magazine Issue Date
Motortrend (5.78), (14.28), August 2003
Automobile (5.6). (14.3), October 2003
Card and Driver (5.9). (14.2) October 2003
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
6sp MT
Magazine, 0-60, 1/4 mile, Magazine Issue Date
Motortrend (5.78), (14.28), August 2003
Automobile (5.6). (14.3), October 2003
Card and Driver (5.9). (14.2) October 2003
6sp MT
Magazine, 0-60, 1/4 mile, Magazine Issue Date
Motortrend (5.78), (14.28), August 2003
Automobile (5.6). (14.3), October 2003
Card and Driver (5.9). (14.2) October 2003
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
6sp MT
Magazine, 0-60, 1/4 mile, Magazine Issue Date
Motortrend (5.78), (14.28), August 2003
Automobile (5.6). (14.3), October 2003
Card and Driver (5.9). (14.2) October 2003
6sp MT
Magazine, 0-60, 1/4 mile, Magazine Issue Date
Motortrend (5.78), (14.28), August 2003
Automobile (5.6). (14.3), October 2003
Card and Driver (5.9). (14.2) October 2003
The Altima is front drive with an open diff; that costs it in terms of ET (but barely impacts the trap speed, which is far more telling of a car's actual power to weight ratio).
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Originally posted by harddrivin1le
How many of them trapped at 100 MPH plus?
How many of them trapped at 100 MPH plus?
So get off the kick on the Altima.
02-18-2004, 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
Who cares. I read altimas.net and 100mph was done by a device similar to a GTECH device. It was NOT ACCURATE! The Altimas are running around 95-98 mph not 100.
So get off the kick on the Altima.
Who cares. I read altimas.net and 100mph was done by a device similar to a GTECH device. It was NOT ACCURATE! The Altimas are running around 95-98 mph not 100.
So get off the kick on the Altima.
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Originally posted by harddrivin1le
The Altima V6/5 speed's straight-line performance is COMPARABLE to that of the G35, despite the fact that both cars are built by Nissan and the Altima can be had for ~ $12K less.
The Altima V6/5 speed's straight-line performance is COMPARABLE to that of the G35, despite the fact that both cars are built by Nissan and the Altima can be had for ~ $12K less.
Also to prove you even more wrong....the Altima 5spd RAN with a real drag strip test with autoweek here:
ROAD TEST DATA
STANDING-START ACCELERATION
0-30 mph: 2.38 sec
0-40 mph: 3.67 sec
0-50 mph: 4.83 sec
0-60 mph: 6.32 sec
0-100 km/h (62.1 mph): 6.58 sec
0-80 mph: 10.42 sec
0-quarter-mile: 95.1 mph,
14.85 sec
ROLLING ACCELERATION
20-40 mph (first gear): 2.2 sec
40-60 mph (second gear): 3.2 sec
60-80 mph (third gear): 4.8 sec
BRAKING
80 mph-0: 229 ft
60 mph-0: 130 ft
30 mph-0: 32 ft
FUEL MILEAGE
EPA combined: 24.68 mpg
AW overall: 20.34 mpg
HANDLING
490-foot slalom: 44.8 mph
Lateral acceleration
(200-foot skidpad): 0.84 g
INTERIOR NOISE (dBA)
Idle: 42
Full throttle: 76
Steady 60 mph: 65
02-18-2004, 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
12k less my ass. Dunno where you get your info man but your way off.
Also to prove you even more wrong....the Altima 5spd RAN with a real drag strip test with autoweek here:
ROAD TEST DATA
STANDING-START ACCELERATION
0-30 mph: 2.38 sec
0-40 mph: 3.67 sec
0-50 mph: 4.83 sec
0-60 mph: 6.32 sec
0-100 km/h (62.1 mph): 6.58 sec
0-80 mph: 10.42 sec
0-quarter-mile: 95.1 mph,
14.85 sec
ROLLING ACCELERATION
20-40 mph (first gear): 2.2 sec
40-60 mph (second gear): 3.2 sec
60-80 mph (third gear): 4.8 sec
BRAKING
80 mph-0: 229 ft
60 mph-0: 130 ft
30 mph-0: 32 ft
FUEL MILEAGE
EPA combined: 24.68 mpg
AW overall: 20.34 mpg
HANDLING
490-foot slalom: 44.8 mph
Lateral acceleration
(200-foot skidpad): 0.84 g
INTERIOR NOISE (dBA)
Idle: 42
Full throttle: 76
Steady 60 mph: 65
12k less my ass. Dunno where you get your info man but your way off.
Also to prove you even more wrong....the Altima 5spd RAN with a real drag strip test with autoweek here:
ROAD TEST DATA
STANDING-START ACCELERATION
0-30 mph: 2.38 sec
0-40 mph: 3.67 sec
0-50 mph: 4.83 sec
0-60 mph: 6.32 sec
0-100 km/h (62.1 mph): 6.58 sec
0-80 mph: 10.42 sec
0-quarter-mile: 95.1 mph,
14.85 sec
ROLLING ACCELERATION
20-40 mph (first gear): 2.2 sec
40-60 mph (second gear): 3.2 sec
60-80 mph (third gear): 4.8 sec
BRAKING
80 mph-0: 229 ft
60 mph-0: 130 ft
30 mph-0: 32 ft
FUEL MILEAGE
EPA combined: 24.68 mpg
AW overall: 20.34 mpg
HANDLING
490-foot slalom: 44.8 mph
Lateral acceleration
(200-foot skidpad): 0.84 g
INTERIOR NOISE (dBA)
Idle: 42
Full throttle: 76
Steady 60 mph: 65
02-18-2004, 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
Who cares NOOB.
Who cares NOOB.
$21,040
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/niss...num6.1.nissan*
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Originally posted by harddrivin1le
I can buy a V6 Altima in the Boston area for close to invoice any day of the week. Here's the invoice on the base SE 4 door car:
$21,040
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/niss...num6.1.nissan*
I can buy a V6 Altima in the Boston area for close to invoice any day of the week. Here's the invoice on the base SE 4 door car:
$21,040
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/niss...num6.1.nissan*
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The Altima's fastest rating for the 5-speed was a 5.9 run I think in Motor Trend. It is a fast car in manual mode. It's basically a low 6 second car. Autos have gotten from 6.3 to 7.1 in diff. magazines.
But that car has the worst interior in the recent history of the automobile. They did recently up-grade it, it looks better, not sure they used better materials. And it handles like a bigger car (it's bigger than the TL and G 35) and has torque steer OUTTA THIS WORLD. But it is very fast to go to Wal-Mart in.
But that car has the worst interior in the recent history of the automobile. They did recently up-grade it, it looks better, not sure they used better materials. And it handles like a bigger car (it's bigger than the TL and G 35) and has torque steer OUTTA THIS WORLD. But it is very fast to go to Wal-Mart in.
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Originally posted by jjsC5
Is it time to start comparing the TL's acceleration to a V6 Accord coupe (six speed)?
What the hell is the point?
Is it time to start comparing the TL's acceleration to a V6 Accord coupe (six speed)?
What the hell is the point?
The 6 speed Accord coupe is probably the best of the bunch in terms of luxury and performance per dollar...
Of course, Honda doesn't offer the 6 speed in the sedan....
02-18-2004, 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
The Altima's fastest rating for the 5-speed was a 5.9 run I think in Motor Trend. It is a fast car in manual mode. It's basically a low 6 second car. Autos have gotten from 6.3 to 7.1 in diff. magazines.
But that car has the worst interior in the recent history of the automobile. They did recently up-grade it, it looks better, not sure they used better materials. And it handles like a bigger car (it's bigger than the TL and G 35) and has torque steer OUTTA THIS WORLD. But it is very fast to go to Wal-Mart in.
The Altima's fastest rating for the 5-speed was a 5.9 run I think in Motor Trend. It is a fast car in manual mode. It's basically a low 6 second car. Autos have gotten from 6.3 to 7.1 in diff. magazines.
But that car has the worst interior in the recent history of the automobile. They did recently up-grade it, it looks better, not sure they used better materials. And it handles like a bigger car (it's bigger than the TL and G 35) and has torque steer OUTTA THIS WORLD. But it is very fast to go to Wal-Mart in.
Trap speed through the 1/4 mile is the most telling in terms of actual HP to weight ratios.
Speed @ the end of the 1/2 mile is also telling, though less widely published.
02-18-2004, 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by harddrivin1le
0 - 60 times are for kids...
Trap speed through the 1/4 mile is the most telling in terms of actual HP to weight ratios.
Speed @ the end of the 1/2 mile is also telling, though less widely published.
0 - 60 times are for kids...
Trap speed through the 1/4 mile is the most telling in terms of actual HP to weight ratios.
Speed @ the end of the 1/2 mile is also telling, though less widely published.
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SILVER B S,
If you are so confident about your purchase, why do you continually surf this forum for someone saying something bad about the G35????
I can honestly say I have never been on a G35 forum.
If you are so confident about your purchase, why do you continually surf this forum for someone saying something bad about the G35????
I can honestly say I have never been on a G35 forum.
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Originally posted by Swat Dude
SILVER B S,
If you are so confident about your purchase, why do you continually surf this forum for someone saying something bad about the G35????
I can honestly say I have never been on a G35 forum.
SILVER B S,
If you are so confident about your purchase, why do you continually surf this forum for someone saying something bad about the G35????
I can honestly say I have never been on a G35 forum.
Why do you constantly talk out of your ass?
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Bullet- judging by your gallery you are going to "rice" the G35 out. Have fun.... don't forget to add a wing. Oh, and keep any and all keys/sharp objects away from the "titanium" trim. The plastic scratches easily! Enjoy the interior and the Clarion sound system. Cheers!
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Originally posted by RhodeRunner
Bullet- judging by your gallery you are going to "rice" the G35 out. Have fun.... don't forget to add a wing. Oh, and keep any and all keys/sharp objects away from the "titanium" trim. The plastic scratches easily! Enjoy the interior and the Clarion sound system. Cheers!
Bullet- judging by your gallery you are going to "rice" the G35 out. Have fun.... don't forget to add a wing. Oh, and keep any and all keys/sharp objects away from the "titanium" trim. The plastic scratches easily! Enjoy the interior and the Clarion sound system. Cheers!
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
Yea and the Altima didn't have the best trap either.
Yea and the Altima didn't have the best trap either.
All cars tested by the same source:
Altima V6/5 speed:
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2105.shtml
G35 (auto):
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2133.shtml
350Z manual:
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2202.shtml
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Originally posted by harddrivin1le
I posted a link where the Altima trapped @ an even 100 MPH...
I never stated that the Altima would have "the best trap." all I said is that a Nissan that can be had for ~ $21.5K ($500 over invoice, which is no problem for a Nissan in this area) is essentially as quick/fast as Nissan's far more expensive 350Z and G35 twins.
I posted a link where the Altima trapped @ an even 100 MPH...
I never stated that the Altima would have "the best trap." all I said is that a Nissan that can be had for ~ $21.5K ($500 over invoice, which is no problem for a Nissan in this area) is essentially as quick/fast as Nissan's far more expensive 350Z and G35 twins.
The best trap is not 100 but between 96-98 for the Altima.
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
Yawn, wow GTECH times, and if you read altimas.net they said that was even wrong information!
The best trap is not 100 but between 96-98 for the Altima.
Yawn, wow GTECH times, and if you read altimas.net they said that was even wrong information!
The best trap is not 100 but between 96-98 for the Altima.
And if they are then they ALL must be, since the same source tested all three cars.
The Altima V6 is essentially as quick as the 350Z and the G35. :p
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Originally posted by harddrivin1le
Prove that they're "GTECH times."
And if they are then they ALL must be, since the same source tested all three cars.
The Altima V6 is essentially as quick as the 350Z and the G35. :p
Prove that they're "GTECH times."
And if they are then they ALL must be, since the same source tested all three cars.
The Altima V6 is essentially as quick as the 350Z and the G35. :p
Go by what the majority of the magazines get magazine racer. C&D, MT, R&T. The Altima maybe as fast but from 0-60 the G35 will own it and above 80 the G will own it.
And what the hell do you own NOOB? A wannabe metro?! You came on here just to cause problems because you are a newbie and every post you have has been on this topic.
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
IDIOT go read how they test the cars! They have a device its not done at a drag strip. Grow the **** up idiot. If the Altima guys say its the wrong time its WRONG!
Go by what the majority of the magazines get magazine racer. C&D, MT, R&T. The Altima maybe as fast but from 0-60 the G35 will own it and above 80 the G will own it.
And what the hell do you own NOOB? A wannabe metro?! You came on here just to cause problems because you are a newbie and every post you have has been on this topic.
IDIOT go read how they test the cars! They have a device its not done at a drag strip. Grow the **** up idiot. If the Altima guys say its the wrong time its WRONG!
Go by what the majority of the magazines get magazine racer. C&D, MT, R&T. The Altima maybe as fast but from 0-60 the G35 will own it and above 80 the G will own it.
And what the hell do you own NOOB? A wannabe metro?! You came on here just to cause problems because you are a newbie and every post you have has been on this topic.
They are close enough such that it would be a driver's race.
The curb weight on a base Altima 3.5 SE is a mere 3,197 pounds...
The G35 sedans are 200 pounds heavier than that...:wow:
Both cars use the same basic 3.5 liter V6....
What "magic" makes the Infiniti so much faster (according to you)?
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Yawn, your a waste of internet bandwidth. Go run along and brag about your mommys car to someone else. This TOPIC isn't about the POS ALTIMA.
Originally posted by harddrivin1le
All three cars (manual vs. manual and auto vs auto) offer COMPARABLE straight line performance.
They are close enough such that it would be a driver's race.
The curb weight on a base Altima 3.5 SE is a mere 3,197 pounds...
The G35 sedans are 200 pounds heavier than that...:wow:
Both cars use the same basic 3.5 liter V6....
What "magic" makes the Infiniti so much faster (according to you)?
All three cars (manual vs. manual and auto vs auto) offer COMPARABLE straight line performance.
They are close enough such that it would be a driver's race.
The curb weight on a base Altima 3.5 SE is a mere 3,197 pounds...
The G35 sedans are 200 pounds heavier than that...:wow:
Both cars use the same basic 3.5 liter V6....
What "magic" makes the Infiniti so much faster (according to you)?
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
Yawn, your a waste of internet bandwidth. Go run along and brag about your mommys car to someone else. This TOPIC isn't about the POS ALTIMA.
Yawn, your a waste of internet bandwidth. Go run along and brag about your mommys car to someone else. This TOPIC isn't about the POS ALTIMA.
http://www.dynoperformance.com/searc...ils.php?ID=494
Altima V6 dyno results:
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/...ima_july02.php
The Altima is 200 pounds LIGHTER.
The drive wheel HP: weight ratio of those two cars is very close. The Altima actually produced MORE drive wheel torque on the dyno!
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amazing the lack of maturity displayed in this thread
why are some of u guys being idiots, u've made your purchase and be happy w/it, stop trying to preach to others how great the respective car you bought is....this goes 4 both the g35 owners and tl owners in this thread....both groups claim their respective cars 2 be sophisticated, if thats the case, why cant their owners be even 1/2 as sophisticated as their car is
why are some of u guys being idiots, u've made your purchase and be happy w/it, stop trying to preach to others how great the respective car you bought is
....this goes 4 both the g35 owners and tl owners in this thread....both groups claim their respective cars 2 be sophisticated, if thats the case, why cant their owners be even 1/2 as sophisticated as their car is