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Today (1/15) Acura made a slew of new announcements at the Detroit Auto Show. They showed off the gorgeous new 2019 RDX Prototype but the part I was more interested in was the return of the Type S moniker. It was stated that this badging will apply to multiple models in the years ahead.
Some of us have been hearing rumors (or proof) that indeed Acura has been working on an exclusive all new turbocharged V6 engine and this was confirmed today by their announcement. Rumors say projected output is around 360 hp (depending on application perhaps) and so far, is paired with SH-AWD. No word on transmission options. This engine will make its way into multiple models in the coming years. I am suspecting this could be the end of the J-series as we know it (at least in Acura models).
They also announced that the A-Spec variant models will be making a more prolific comeback with every core model offering an A-Spec variant including the new 2019 RDX. This was due in part to the success of the most recent 2018 TLX and heralds back to the '04-'08 TL and other iconic Acura vehicles from around the same time.
There was one specific quote that really stuck out to me from the press announcement:
"We have made a major commitment to Acura to bring each element of Precision Crafted Performance to life through a new generation of products," said Toshiaki Mikoshiba, president & CEO of American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "Acura will pursue a unique powertrain strategy that underscores the brand's rightful place as the performance division of Honda."
I think they are beginning to make some serious steps in the right direction. It seems like they have taken much inspiration from the 2004-2008 TL, with the emphasis and focus on A-Spec variant and revival of the Type S (like they're going back to their roots). Performance seems to be the overall goal which has definitely been lacking in the years since the 3rd gen. Only time will tell to see how these new Type S and A-Spec models look but if the RDX Prototype is anything to go off of then I think they're design department has also stepped it up.
For the 1st time IN A VERY LONG TIME, It seems that Acura is moving in the right direction. Not too sure about the TLX Type-s. The competition in the same class is already there and only advancing. Never thought I say it, but the RDX looks fantastic! Most of the interior reminds me of Lexus. Now let's see if they deliver.
IF this is true to Acura statement then I will be expecting 400 HP (or more) from a 3.5 Turbo since the market is now flooded with car that has more than 400 HP with different combination powertrain. Personally I think the TLX Aspec not quite ground breaking BUT it show the company moving into the right direction. Lets hope they nailed the Type S again.
IF this is true to Acura statement then I will be expecting 400 HP (or more) from a 3.5 Turbo since the market is now flooded with car that has more than 400 HP with different combination powertrain. Personally I think the TLX Aspec not quite ground breaking BUT it show the company moving into the right direction. Lets hope they nailed the Type S again.
"Return of Type S and All-new V6 Turbo Underscore Renewed Commitment to Performance Throughout Acura Core Model Lineup "
Maybe its Acura's way of saying "We Know We've Copped an Attitude That Our Shit Doesn't Stink, But After lackluster sales, and a Bashing By Consumer Reports on ALL Our Sedans, We're Finally Waking Up and Bringing Back the Pizazz and Reliability That Made Us Famous in The First Place"
"Return of Type S and All-new V6 Turbo Underscore Renewed Commitment to Performance Throughout Acura Core Model Lineup "
Maybe its Acura's way of saying "We Know We've Copped an Attitude That Our Shit Doesn't Stink, But After lackluster sales, and a Bashing By Consumer Reports on ALL Our Sedans, We're Finally Waking Up and Bringing Back the Pizazz and Reliability That Made Us Famous in The First Place"
Anyone want to 2nd this?
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All smoke and mirrors if there is no third pedal available under the dash.
No manual, but this is a huge step in the right direction!! I just hope the styling can match the performance and I’ll be gladly buying a Type s when it’s on its second year.
Cant wait to see what happens with the tlx between now and 2020 when it’s available!
IF this is true to Acura statement then I will be expecting 400 HP (or more) from a 3.5 Turbo since the market is now flooded with car that has more than 400 HP with different combination powertrain. Personally I think the TLX Aspec not quite ground breaking BUT it show the company moving into the right direction. Lets hope they nailed the Type S again.
I want to believe, but at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if Acura decides to choose efficiency over power (which has always been the Honda way) and this thing ends up looking cool but packing ~350 horsepower....I do hope they surprise me though.
I want to believe, but at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if Acura decides to choose efficiency over power (which has always been the Honda way) and this thing ends up looking cool but packing ~350 horsepower....I do hope they surprise me though.
Maybe Acura will turn the engine 90* on one of these models and make a rwd bias SH-AWD. Wouldn't that be a hoot.
I really could care less about 400HP...I want a reliable decent looking car that isn't a turd. Bring back the SportWagons with a MT and at least 250HP and I will be at the dealer tomorrow signing the paperwork. What kills me is their looks were so bad for so many years...then they start getting better, but they killed the MT, priced themselves too high for what they had, and their reliability went down. At this point if I have to give up my MT and reliability, I pretty much can shop any brand since those were the two things that brought me into the Honda/Acura brand.
Where does it indicate a 3.0? I don't doubt the number. Just curious. In time, I'm sure there will be variations of the V6T, much like the original NA V6... Started at 3.0L and made it up to 3.2L, 3.5L and 3.7, in various forms and iterations.
What's interesting to see is how close the turbo is to the actual engine. Seems like it would produce near instant boost.
I'm guessing like all Honda V6s, this thing will be transversely mounted... I wonder how much of a pain it will be to change the timing belt, now that it is a DOHC. Or.. are they going to timing chains yet?
Any chance you can post a link to those photos? I'd like to see more of them.
What I suspect you're unable to see is the plumbing between the exhaust headers and the turbo and again between the turbo, through the intercooler, and then into the intake system.
That said, if Acura follows the lead of several European manufacturers and adopts some of the trick turbo setups used across the pond, lag will indeed be very minimal.
Where does it indicate a 3.0?... Any chance you can post a link to those photos? I'd like to see more of them.
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Documents indicated that this is a 3.0 and will be available in 2020 in the TLX Type S. This is not public knowledge. Same with those drawings; you won't find them anywhere else on the internet. This is leaked info and unfortunately I don't have more.
i was very hopeful they would bring back to the type S but if there is no Manual transmission, i will not be buying anything,
what if was a $3500 option to have a manual would you buy one? Just asking hypothetically. I don't drive manual but figured it was a decent question to ask for conversation sake
what if was a $3500 option to have a manual would you buy one? Just asking hypothetically. I don't drive manual but figured it was a decent question to ask for conversation sake
I honest to God would. It means that much to me. And nothing in that category comes with a stick anymore.
If the type s comes with a stick, I will buy one. Regardless of price.
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Documents indicated that this is a 3.0 and will be available in 2020 in the TLX Type S. This is not public knowledge. Same with those drawings; you won't find them anywhere else on the internet. This is leaked info and unfortunately I don't have more.
curious- is it being released in 2020, or is it being released in 2019 as a 2020 model? Either way, sounds like there will be a Type S at launch, yes?
what if was a $3500 option to have a manual would you buy one? Just asking hypothetically. I don't drive manual but figured it was a decent question to ask for conversation sake
In a heart beat. Given how rare manual transmission equipped cars are these days, their resale values are going up; if a $45,000 TLX was offered for, using your example, $48,500, not only would I buy one in a heart beat, but when resale time came along, the car would fetch back at least that $3,500 premium.
In a heart beat. Given how rare manual transmission equipped cars are these days, their resale values are going up; if a $45,000 TLX was offered for, using your example, $48,500, not only would I buy one in a heart beat, but when resale time came along, the car would fetch back at least that $3,500 premium.
I would think it fetch more than that, I mean after all you knew how hard it is to find a clean unmolested MT TL. So it worth whatever $XXXX to the enthusiast that trying to purchase them in the used car market.
In a heart beat. Given how rare manual transmission equipped cars are these days, their resale values are going up; if a $45,000 TLX was offered for, using your example, $48,500, not only would I buy one in a heart beat, but when resale time came along, the car would fetch back at least that $3,500 premium.
Smart thinking.. It's extremely hard to find an 07-08 TL Type S these days in manual transmission and when you do find one, it's expensive. Whatever you lose in the beginning, you make it back in the end.
“This is how it will be laid out folks for the next generation of Acura's. The 2019 RDX is the first Acura to be designed from the ground up under the Precision Crafted Performance brand philosophy:
-3.0L turbo
- 60 Degree layout
- DOHC/chain driven
- Full Continuous VTEC (all new VTEC system)
- Hybrid Turbo System (eCharger and Turbocharger)
- Every model with new 3.0t will be mild (48V) Hybrid (TLX-S, RDX-S, base MDX and base RLX) or full Sport Hybrid which will be used on the top levels of the MDX and RLX.
Next gen RLX 3.0t standard engine with an optional Sport Hybrid SH-AWD trim.
Next gen MDX 3.0t standard engine with an optional Sport Hybrid SH-AWD trim.
Next gen TLX 2.0t as a base and optional 3.0t engine (Type-S).
Next gen RDX 2.0t as a base and optional 3.0t engine (Type-S)
All A-Spec'd vehicles will be only available on the base engine as A-Spec is only a Sport appearance and sport tuned suspension package.
All 2.0t engines will be mated to a 10AT. All 3.0t engines will be mated to an all new 11 speed triple clutch automatic.
that's been confirmed for a while (can't reveal source). doesn't make sense financially for acura
i'm bummed by it but i completely understand. i still think this will be my next car if it looks halfway decent, my 12-13 year old type s will be due for an update by then (and i'll have our 2015 mdx paid off by then too)
01-15-2018, 02:08 PM
