xdaily

Car had a manual trans. We were both stopped at a red light. Light turned green.
Smoked em up to 70mph then let off.

Manual Transmission

Are u on Auto or Manual?


your post is too short.


LOL

xdaily

Mine is an auto. No real mods except a drop in K&N.

phee

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do you think a second gen 99 tl would be able to beat a prelude with a k22 swap?

Eoanou

Do you mean H22? There is no K22 only K20A, K20A1, K20A2, K23A, and K24?

But anyway, the Prelude comes with an H22 to begin with so, what you're asking.

But a Prelude should be as fast as a TL-P, stock for stock.

Eoanou

Silly 'lude leave the racing to the big boys.

'03TL-S

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Newer or older model?

Go90go

Some came with a B20, some came with an H23.

~Cheers~

xdaily

older

demer11

i had a prelude entice me into racing today on the grand central (ny) i was rolling like around 60 and i see him in my rear mirror swerving around traffic prolly round 80, so as he pulls closer to me i floor it n he catches up to me but to my surprise we stayed head to head for about 5 LONG seconds, then traffic slowed us down. wtf ive never raced with my tl since i got it 2 months ago but i thought id smoke is ass. i have 04 tl auto. didnt use shift gate, does it make a diference?

nova_G

Wow...2 years later haha

Sonnick

Lmao. I just noticed that.

A 5spd H22 prelude will keep up with a 5AT TL on the highway. From a dig, the prelude should creep on the TL with a good driver.

viciouzchi

I use to have a 92 H23 (2700lbs)swap from japan and sold it to my mechanic we were on the highway he was two cars up and he gunned it I couldnt catch him (i think its cause i have a 3" cat-back) but when he slowed down and i got behind him then we gunned it i flew by him till i hit 130 pulled like 4-5 cars. I know that car had crazy pickup. Once i pulled 1 1/2 on a turbo civic from the light till he hit third and boosted by me.But moral of the story is that there fast but my new 04AT is faster hahaha. Got mine last week...

Rockstar21

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the 4th gen prelude VTEC 92-96 can run high 14's-15 flat
with basic bolt ons.. its consistently in the 14's.

they are by no means SLOW.

my generation (5th) are low-mid 15's. and generally arent a threat to TL's.

but i wouldnt underestimate the older ludes.. they have serious balls.

kriz2fer

An h22 prelude 5 speed should beat a tl-p but not the tls....if your tl-p is auto????

kriz2fer

Yeah i had an 99 prelude with a jdm type-s swap, the motor comes stock with 220hp and 165lbs or torque and i smoked my friends 94 prelude with an h22 in it...well because of the motor swap of lol but anyway the 4th gen ludes are faster cus they weigh 100 lbs lighter!!!

Rockstar21

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shouldnt have smoked him.. shoulda been about dead even... possibly not a great driver.

the 4th gen ludes have half a second on the 5th gens... and 20hp at the crank wont make up for .5 on the track. the 4th gen should still pull on it

if you want a fast prelude, you get the 4th gen (VTEC) versions..

if you want a good looking lude.. you get the 5th gen.

princelybug

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Nice kill.

Sonnick

^^

jeowen

LOL

kriz2fer

Dude if anyone know preludes it's me I promise....i had a 4th gen h22 very clean and they olny come with 190 hp the type s motor make a big difference. It's a 30hp swing with 10 lbs of torque that like a base tl vs a type s almost. The guy I raced is a better driver then me. Also I bet you have never seen anyone with a type s swap at the drags, the motor was 5 grand alone also had a shit load of bolt-ons car ran a 14.7 and the track, stock 4th gens run 15.2 on car and driver website and 5th gens run 15.4 so it's olny .2

Rockstar21

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and i've not only seen type S swaps at the track, i've seen them in person many times..

your apparently one of those people who speak in terms of Crank horsepower..
the type S has 30 more CRANK hp. which in whp terms...is not much.


i would take the 4th gen VTEC prelude in a race against a 5th Gen S allllll day long buddy... and car and driver is always off.. i've seen a guy run 15.0 with 80k miles on his stock 4th gen...

i understand you think b/c of the horsepower difference, that the Type S should win... but in the real world... the 4th gen has more balls and uses every bit of its HP more efficiently in a lighter shell...

it WILL win

Rockstar21

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and this part is just off lol....

you paid 5k for the motor?

you can get them for 1k shipped, easily...
if you know so much about the prelude why did you overpay for a motor by $4K?

and with BASIC bolt-ons this engine would have 240-245 hp at the crank.

with the right launch and tires.. you could easily achieve mid 14's with a good driver..

with a "shit load of bolt-ons" you should be in the low 14's..

kriz2fer

Dude you are way wrong the motor is a jdm type s with an LSD stock you can not touch that motor for less than 4 grand on eBay.... I think you are mixed up with the type sh usdm that are all over the fuckin place in that case you could get one for a grand... Lol and you have not seen a true type s swap they are so rare and you have no idea about preludes man if you think the type s will loose to a 4th gen... The LSD helps a whole lot along with no sunroof an is lighter no ac etc...the type s prelude runs the same 1/4 as the type r, a lot of people don't even know about it. Now the type sh prelude we have here in the us is slow and a 4th gen beat it for sure the atts weighs a lot. But the type s is stripped down and is olny sold in japan would beat a 4th gen easy...

Rockstar21

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i can assure you im not mistaking the SH with an S..

if you havent noticed.. i own a 5th gen SH... im aware my h22a4 is different from the H22a motor...

no less than 4k you say?
first one on the list was under 2k...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...Q5fAccessories

the next 3 were all under 2500..

i've seen them much cheaper plenty of times...

and why are you talking about the stripped down versions of the Type S??
when you swap the motor into a USDM shell none of that matters

aside from the type S..there is only an SiR-S spec (220 hp), SiR(200 HP)... and a VTi-R (australia only 200 hp)

your rambling on about something you clearly at one point were interested in, but have you facts twisted up.

you should do some more research on this car you once owned... i've had mine less than 6 months and already see tons of flaws in your information

kriz2fer

look dude that is just the motor NO TRANNY AND ITS THE STARTING BID if you know ebay you know what that means. ALso the jdm type s motor is an h22 with different pistons, head ported and poilshed, intake manifold, header, air intake and lsd tranny etc...thats like saying a integra gsr is the same as a type r? WHATS THE DIFFERENCE 25HP 170hp vs 195hp not whp. But we all know what a BIG difference the type r has like gearing pretty much the same difference between the preludes right? the OLNY difference that the 4th gen has over the 5th gen is 80lbs and it has 10 less hp so take out a few things inside the 5th gen and there you are! the 4th gens put the power to the ground the exact same way....now the lude suck ass at modding nothing you do will gain shit unless you boost it, so the bolt ons will give you tops 15hp maybe. oh yeah the red top h22 in the type s is the same motor found in the accord type R

kriz2fer

BTW i had a 4th gen prelude before i have a 5th gen and it felt slower and i promise you that if you swap a type s or s-spec into your bb6 you will take 4th gens all day long swear to fuckin god man. The motor redlines at 8k vs the 7800 or whatever, theres more to the race than just 20hp the tranny the lsd the redline the extra 10 puonds of tq all that makes BIG gains. You need to join a prelude forum and see what they say about the lude i was part of one for years

Rockstar21

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im part of preludeonline, preludezone and ... the consensus is always in favor of the 4th gen...

i love my 5th, but my buddies previous 4th gen vtec was a different animal..

by the way... the only difference in a LSD tranny and non-LSD tranny... is a 200 dollar part that anyone can buy. .. anyone can add it to theirs for cheap... instead of paying 1500 for the whole assembly like a fool