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Old 05-05-2011, 07:42 PM
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quick question. 6 speed BMW 335i 4 door VS. 04 TL 6 speed

whats up everyone? okay just a question how would the TL hold up against a 6 speed BMW 335i sedan? my car, nothing special done to it but its lowered with 18's and an AEM intake. anyone every come across a challenge like this? thanks guys! hope to hear from you soon!
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you will get destroyed.
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You'll lose for sure unless he's MT with major driver error.

alexSu raced a 335 Convertible (heavier than the sedan) with his TL and the race was dead even 0-100mph. However, he's probably making more than 15 / 20whp more than you.

I'd save the gas and the wear and tear on your car.
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I once had a little run with a sedan, he had an exhaust and I could tell he was punching it when I pulled up to him...I caught up and eventually walked him before shutting down. Probably 60-110mph or so run...

Did it twice and both times I beat him. My guess is he was auto...also, before I had jpipe.
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^damn, I thought the autos were faster. but I'm not totally sure.
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he might have been a sucky driver...although I'm assuming he was auto...I saw the swirl of black shit come out of the exhaust so I know he punched it and I really did "come from behind", catch up and pass him two times...new 335 with a shiny new borla looking exhaust.

I thought for sure I'd get whooped...
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hmm, well then i guess ill have to find out for myself. i probably will get destroyed but hey, you win some and you loose some. sometimes you loose horribly lol. But its my uncle he said he wanted to race me so hopefully i will win, he just got the car hes picking it up saturday and he said he wants to go for a quick run! ill post back in here about the results! Feel free to keep commenting i want to hear some more raced about these cars!
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I actually made a thread when this happened, I was told by most that it would have been different from a dig. Race him from bottom of 3rd
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You'll need CAI, pre-cat deletes, jpipe/test pipe, catback, pulley to run with a stock 335i. Those suckers are quick but with those mods I think a 6MT TL could possibly after 100mph.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^damn, I thought the autos were faster. but I'm not totally sure.
Yeah the autos are a little faster than the manuals.

I had a go with a modded 335i...
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
he might have been a sucky driver...although I'm assuming he was auto...I saw the swirl of black shit come out of the exhaust so I know he punched it and I really did "come from behind", catch up and pass him two times...new 335 with a shiny new borla looking exhaust.

I thought for sure I'd get whooped...
Could it have been a 335d?

ETA: nvm just went back and read your thread, 335i for sure.

I have a video of me with my current mods on the hwy against a 335i with JB4, catless downpipes, intake, intercooler, BOV... it was fun to watch as it disappeared into the horizon.

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Originally Posted by alexSU
You'll need CAI, pre-cat deletes, jpipe/test pipe, catback, pulley to run with a stock 335i. Those suckers are quick but with those mods I think a 6MT TL could possibly after 100mph.
This.

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I actually made a thread when this happened, I was told by most that it would have been different from a dig. Race him from bottom of 3rd
You must at least have PCD/cai/exhaust?

OP if he is a decent driver you have no chance.
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Originally Posted by Walshstl
This.



You must at least have PCD/cai/exhaust?

OP if he is a decent driver you have no chance.
LOL!!! 335 owner... I walked away from you remember???
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No sir,
At the time:
No intake resonator
K&N drop in
Stage III Exhaust
Coolant bypass
Removed Slave checkvalve

and I was running the 19's at the time.

I don't know...1) I'm not lying 2) I don't think I should have won either and am giving credence to the fact that maybe something wasn't right.

Had a similar run with a 3.8 Genesis coupe. As I was coming up to him he punched it...I caught up, and passed him twice too. I came up behind him and passed him too...twice.
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You should definitely get walked w/just CAI. I ran 2, keep in mind I have FBO (full bolt ons). One way from a ++ highway roll and I ended up creeping on him at very high speeds (not too proud of this). The 2nd one was from a dig, with an older man driving it. I launched horribly so he was immediately 1-1.5 cars ahead and that's how it stayed to 100. Dead even. It was a stock auto coupe.

Rockstar: I'm not saying you're lying, but that sounds really hard to believe being that you're basically stock + 19s. But I've had runs like this with cars I shouldn't have either, so I'm not one to talk.

I ran my buddies stock 6MT 3.8GC, it was a really good run. I think I have a thread in here on it. My cousin was driving the GC (we're equal drivers) and I was slow to react to the 3rd honk and he immediately had at least a full car, if not 1.5+ lol. I ended up reeling him in and passing him on the 3-4 shift. Again, I was FBO here.

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Ha, no, I know nobody said I was a liar. Just those abberations, I guess...the stars aligned and I beat a few that I probably shouldn't have. To be honest, I'm happy with how fast or slow my car is...always be someone faster and I'm not willing to spend the cash or lose reliability to try and catch whoever that may be.

Plus, if I was serious about drag racing or beating everyone, I'd probably start off with a stronger and at least RWD platform.
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You will loose, I know from experience.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
he might have been a sucky driver...although I'm assuming he was auto...I saw the swirl of black shit come out of the exhaust so I know he punched it and I really did "come from behind", catch up and pass him two times...new 335 with a shiny new borla looking exhaust.

I thought for sure I'd get whooped...
The 335i had a blown turbo most likely, that explains the black smoke. I have a 335i and bluish (probably what it was) smoke is not normal. The TL is not a slow car, but stock 335i does 60-130 17.1s and a stock 6mt TL does 60-130 in 22.9s. I ran a 6MT TL with Jpipe and won, but my 60-130 is around 9-10 seconds; it would have been close if I was stock.

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depends on the year. i put a few cars on a 335i a couple months back. i know the new ones are pretty sick.

still my dream car
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Originally Posted by Forcefed 3
The 335i had a blown turbo most likely, that explains the black smoke. I have a 335i and bluish (probably what it was) smoke is not normal.
yeah i've never been told i had smoke come out of my exhaust like that... ... but damn im really really itching to try out a TL-S and go stock for stock.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed 3
The 335i had a blown turbo most likely, that explains the black smoke. I have a 335i and bluish (probably what it was) smoke is not normal. The TL is not a slow car, but stock 335i does 60-130 17.1s and a stock 6mt TL does 60-130 in 22.9s. I ran a 6MT TL with Jpipe and won, but my 60-130 is around 9-10 seconds; it would have been close if I was stock.
I envy your 60-130mph time. That's very swift lol
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yeah i've never been told i had smoke come out of my exhaust like that... ... but damn im really really itching to try out a TL-S and go stock for stock.
335i would win every time. TL-S looks better stock for stock though.
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I envy your 60-130mph time. That's very swift lol
It gets me from point A to point B
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Originally Posted by Forcefed 3
It gets me from point A to point B
Haha I'm sure it does and in a hurry!

What mods did you do to get that time? I imagine tune, downpipe, exhaust, intake...anything else?
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Haha I'm sure it does and in a hurry!

What mods did you do to get that time? I imagine tune, downpipe, exhaust, intake...anything else?
JB4, AR catless downpipes, intake, oil catch can, HPF intercooler, ER chargepipe with synapse blow off valve. Methanol injection is about to be installed, Coolingmist Pro tank with CMGS and CM10 nozzle.
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What part of louisiana are you in? Ill be in shreveport and then New Orleans from the 28th leaving on the 30th for the holidays with my wife... would be nice to take a stab at that E90 335I with the ol' cadillac...ha
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JB4, AR catless downpipes, intake, oil catch can, HPF intercooler, ER chargepipe with synapse blow off valve. Methanol injection is about to be installed, Coolingmist Pro tank with CMGS and CM10 nozzle.
And if I can't get my wife to let me get a few runs in for the hell of it than it would be cool to atleast have a few drinks with a few cool peops! Lol
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well hes a new driver to the car, hes picking it up saturday so im gonig into his city saturday( tomorrow) so i will post here tomorrow! THANKS for all the replies guys!

wish me luck:P
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Originally Posted by FastLS6speed
What part of louisiana are you in? Ill be in shreveport and then New Orleans from the 28th leaving on the 30th for the holidays with my wife... would be nice to take a stab at that E90 335I with the ol' cadillac...ha


And if I can't get my wife to let me get a few runs in for the hell of it than it would be cool to atleast have a few drinks with a few cool peops! Lol
I am in Baton Rouge, youll pass through on your way to N.O. I would love to see the CTS-V. Have you ever taken it to the track? If so, what were your times?

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Oh, I see... how far is that from NO? I've never tracked my car but seeing as I have never raced a car at the track before I'm guessing that it would be in the mid 13.4 to 13.6 at about 105 to 108mph...
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I am in Baton Rouge, youll pass through on your way to N.O. I would love to see the CTS-V. Have you ever taken it to the track? If so, what were your times?
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Oh, I see... how far is that from NO? I've never tracked my car but seeing as I have never raced a car at the track before I'm guessing that it would be in the mid 13.4 to 13.6 at about 105 to 108mph...
Its about an hour from N.O.
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thats a fastt ass e90 lol! All I have is DCI/ar catless/jb3 and on map 5, i put buses on fully modified TLS lol. I share BT cable with a couple guys, and one of them has a JB4... he hogs the cable. Thats why I'm not looking to upgrade lol. I think I will do proceed in the future but jb3 is pretty good as it is.

BTW whats your SN on e90post?
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thats a fastt ass e90 lol! All I have is DCI/ar catless/jb3 and on map 5, i put buses on fully modified TLS lol.
Yeah, and when you stock with only intake who was walking away buses length?
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Originally Posted by Walshstl
thats a fastt ass e90 lol! All I have is DCI/ar catless/jb3 and on map 5, i put buses on fully modified TLS lol. I share BT cable with a couple guys, and one of them has a JB4... he hogs the cable. Thats why I'm not looking to upgrade lol. I think I will do proceed in the future but jb3 is pretty good as it is.

BTW whats your SN on e90post?
Is proceed just as good as the JB4?
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Yeah, and when you stock with only intake who was walking away buses length?
I wouldnt say buses... lol. I admit, modified TLS will walk the 335. But I remembered you had everything besides pulley, TBS, and other small stuff.

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Is proceed just as good as the JB4?
Proceed cost a lot more than JB4. Not necessarily faster, but it's more refined I heard. Powerband is better whereas JB3/4 is all or nothing type power. I think I read it pushes more power with less boost. Proceed is the better tune. My buddy gets a crapload of error codes from his JB4 so that sways me from JB4 for now anyways.

Yep just check the price. Procede (not proceed) is 1300 whereas JB4 is like 480 lol. I've seen used ones go fro about 700 though

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Correction Procede is $950 from vendors
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Originally Posted by Forcefed 3
Methanol injection is about to be installed, Coolingmist Pro tank with CMGS and CM10 nozzle.
you are about to enter a whole new dimension.
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Originally Posted by Walshstl
thats a fastt ass e90 lol! All I have is DCI/ar catless/jb3 and on map 5, i put buses on fully modified TLS lol. I share BT cable with a couple guys, and one of them has a JB4... he hogs the cable. Thats why I'm not looking to upgrade lol. I think I will do proceed in the future but jb3 is pretty good as it is.

BTW whats your SN on e90post?
I would not consider procede an upgrade. CPS offsetting is not all its hyped up to be on E90post. Unless you like your injectors and exhaust and intake valves to be retarded. Uprgrade to JB4 and get a simple meth kit. I would not waste my money trading for a procede. Have you seen all the problems the procede clan has been having lately? Especially with auto's.
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Originally Posted by Walshstl
I wouldnt say buses... lol. I admit, modified TLS will walk the 335. But I remembered you had everything besides pulley, TBS, and other small stuff.



Proceed cost a lot more than JB4. Not necessarily faster, but it's more refined I heard. Powerband is better whereas JB3/4 is all or nothing type power. I think I read it pushes more power with less boost. Proceed is the better tune. My buddy gets a crapload of error codes from his JB4 so that sways me from JB4 for now anyways.

Yep just check the price. Procede (not proceed) is 1300 whereas JB4 is like 480 lol. I've seen used ones go fro about 700 though
This is incorrect information. Read on some other sites or read a tuning book to get a better understanding of how everything works. E90post is full of a bunch of people who have no clue what they are talking about and mimic Shiv.
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you are about to enter a whole new dimension.
Yeah I am hoping it will make a huge difference. It should be good for at least 40whp.
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I agree but e90post is basically the ONLY 335 forum. But I dont get all my info online. I've talked to people who've had both Procede/JB3, and most of them prefer the procede. What I listed is some of what they've told me. And no I haven't heard of all the problems lately... injectors, exhaust and valves being retarded because of procede??? Okay... but I'd rather believe real life people who I know have had experience with these tunes. If procede is really no better, yet cost $500 more how would they still be in business? Marketing only goes so far.


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