04DCTL

Will the stock hood dampeners work with a VIS CF hood?

04DCTL

come on, i know someone has some input to this

sT04Louis

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Someone correct me if im wrong.

But ive read that you may have to release some of the gas in the hood damper since the hood weighs less.


Like i said, correct me if im wrong.

04DCTL

and if this is correct, how do you go about doing this?

csmeance

I think the factory ones will work. When accuratien did his hood, he wanted to use the TEIN shocks, but i think they were too strong so he had to use to stockies. I would PM him, or PM michealbenz.

stillhere153

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nope... you can not use the stock hood dampers...

bent09

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This was ten years ago but when I put the cf on my accord I could not use them.

sT04Louis

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From what ive read there is a small little "purge" on the damper that when depressed with say the end of a paper clip it releases the gasses inside the damper. Pretty much a trial and error "purging" method untill the damper is at the right resistance for the lighter hood.

04DCTL

why not

stillhere153

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the hood is lighter... it will pop up to quick... try what sto4 is thinking off... but wait did you order ur hood already? if so wait till it comes in... prior to install try and purge the gas... I've never heard of that but it could be possible...

do not install the dampers as they are now because it could well snap ur hood in half

sT04Louis

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I know ive got a article about this in one of my many car mags. Id look for it but i just dont know where to begin or have the time to...sorry man.

bent09

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And if it did not take off there would be no way you could close it without doing damage to the hood.

twigglius

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Roll with some Tein Lightweight Hood Dampers.

MichaelBenz

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I use nothing whatsoever anymore. I took them off when I went CF. Just for the record.

deltaboxxx

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if u go tein i would probly say use some made for an evo (if they make them) the evo hood is probly the lightest hood ive ever seen (oem is aluminum)

MichaelBenz

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Here is a thread about how to release pressure in aftermarket damper systems...

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...05#post2032605

04DCTL

okay so how should i keep my hood on, i ordered hood pins, sooo....im confused, im knew to the entire cf hood stuff sorry for bein a noob

MichaelBenz

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Hood pins? Dont need em. Most of the carbon fiber hoods for the TL will work with the factory latch and hinge system and trust me....its good enough and as secure as an OEM hood is. Never had my hood fly up whatsoever and dont expect to.

This thread was about dampers wasnt it? I dont use em personally cause I dont want the extra weight....but as the link shows above....you can use aftermarket dampers but you will just need to release some of the pressure.

deltaboxxx

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extra weight? Hood dampers are like 5 lbs maybe.

BLACKURA_NY

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Tein does not make a damper for our car

You can try a DC2 or DC5 damper, should be similar to ours. Or, you can use only one OEM damper, and when closing the hood put pressure on the side with the damper...

the VIS hood does have a bolt locations to link up the damper, but i wouldn't recommend it, not unless your release the pressure in the damper... but i dont know anythign about that.. and if you dont release enough, the hood will fly back to "forcefully"

i currently have no dampers, no pins. i do have a set of Aerocatch latch's, but probably wont install them... waste of $90

and good luck with that VIS hood.... where the latch is located, there is supposed to be a groove in between it.. hard to explain, but go pop open your OEM hood,... and look in between the two latch points.... see that hollowed out area?? VIS doesnt have it.. and you'll need to dremmel in a similar sized opening, other wise the latch wont close properly....

04DCTL

thanks alot blackura and michaelbenz, this is veryyy helpful information, so hood pins are not neccessary, nor are the hood dampers? is that what the conclusion is?
and yeah i noticed the part where i will have to dremel when the hood comes in, and i am getting a local shop to do that, because me, i have no experience and do not trust my friends to mess around with that stuff, so i will pay the extra little bit of money to have it properly done you know?
thanks alot guys, i knew yall could help me out!

BLACKURA_NY

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you'll probably also have to lower your latch.... remove the bumper, remove the plastic cover over the latch.... loosen the 3 12mm bolts (loosen, DONT remove) and the push the latch down a little bit.... if you go all the way down, the hood lines up PERFECTLY... but, your front bulkhead cover wont allow the hood to latch, and you will have to remove it....

without lowering the latch, my hood stuck up about 4-5mm from the fenders .... now it sits flush, but the hood wont latch properly with the front bulkhead on (thats the plastic cover over the radiator)
also, you'll need to adjust the bump stops accordingly.... either way, the hood still slightly, and i mean SLIGHTLY, jiggles while its latched... ill perfect it one of these days

bent09

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Please post pics when you have it on. I will be shortly joining you if I can get the wifeys concent.

You are asm or ssm right?

04DCTL

blackura, can you give me a little like picture of what you mean by bulkhead or what ever its called?
and thank you so much for your advice man, saving me alot of trouble, i will be getting a local shop who does this kind of stuff daily to put it on because personally, i am not demmelling into something that cost more than my life

04DCTL

i am ssm yeah man

BLACKURA_NY

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when you open your hood, there are all those plastic covers... the front bulkhead is the front plastic cover, in between the headlights, closest to the bumper...

i just adjusted my latch yesterday, and got the hood 100%.. but it wouldnt close with that piece on.... i would have kept trying but i was tired, it was dark out and i hadda put my bumper back on....

i still might hood pin/latch mine... the fact that i had to dremmel a nice sized hole in the middle of the hood latchs anchoring points, makes me slightly nervous that the latch might seperate from the hood... so pins and dampers will probably be done up in the next few weeks

michealbenz came through with a GREAT thread about these password.jdm hood dampers... i might buy them

04DCTL

yeah i noticed that, i am just not wanting to put the pins into such a nice peice of equipment even though it could save my ass.
i saw the password JDM ones, but as of now, i am broke as hellll til next friday, then i will have to get some more stuff done to the car, but just taking it one step at a time, so i will need to remove that plastic peice that is sitting on top of the grille correct?

ACCURATEin

Damn son you're doing some mad work to that TL!!! Headlights, now hood?!

04DCTL

haha possibly my dude, tryin to keep NC on the map, but you got that part taken care of haha, i will be trying to keep this area on the map.

ACCURATEin

haha well shit...if you get a cf hood, we might be the only state with two TLs rocking CF hoods!

04DCTL

haha, no if i get it, it will be here beginning of next week man. we need to meet up at a meet, i will try and make it to the one May 17th, just remind me haha cause i am dumb and forget shit, but damn i hope everything goes good with this hood.

MichaelBenz

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Heck....I adjusted my hood latch without even taking off the bumper whatsoever. As you said....you just have three bolts there you have to access....but I never removed the bumper to do so. My hood fits fine....had to shim the back side toward the window with one washer to make it flush and lower the front latch...but other than that it fit fine. No removing any panels or underhood plastic...mine all fits fine. I have a Versus Motorsports double sided CF hood though.

04DCTL

yeah i mean, i will make sure the place puts it on good and snug and maybe i wont have to use the hood pins but we will see

bent09

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Ever hava any discoloration or change to the hood since it get so f*ing hot with the SC?

MichaelBenz

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More from the sun than from Supercharger heat.

BLACKURA_NY

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alot of people claim their hoods turn "yellow"

adding a clearcoat to it should eliminate the possibility.... i might have to do that... dunno yet...

04DCTL

^^yeah thats what my buddy said also, but he has had his hood and its a VIS also on his accord for a little over 3 years and it still looks great, just make sure you get some really good shit to wax/polish it

MichaelBenz

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Thats just it.....I dont do JACK to it. Its a car....I drive it. I run it through the car wash, ect ect. I figured WTF....just replace it when it gets overly baked.

04DCTL

haha good point man. im just stoked about getting my hood

PeteThaPitbull

i been thinking of going CF also..but been saving up for shoes, bbk, and s/c - 1 of these days lol