TLme

Just Curious. The TL is made here in the US, correct? The TSX in Japan? Is there a thread that discusses the quality differences people have found, if any. I couldn't find a thread on this. Thanks.

GaleForce

TSX has been rated higher on quality but I was drawn to the TL because it looks a lot better inside and out.

Mindcrime

The TSX has been rated higher in quality but then again it has been out for some time in Europe and now in the US. If you look at their web site you will see some of the same complaints on the TSX as are here about the TL. Most of the complaints are about rattles. In the end I think you will find them about the same as I'm sure Acura puts the same quality controls on their US factories as they do on their Japan factories. The TL is made at the same facotory as the Accord and that has received high ratings and is a big seller.
I think the TL suffers on some rattles due to the firm ride on the car when over rough roads. My car is quiet until I hit some rough roads.

automophile

We have both. The TSX has some added features that SHOULD have been on the TL, but otherwise the 2 cars are identical in quality (IMHO). The TL is fabulous, but I must say that there is something really special about the TSX - I seem to enjoy it a little more. Both cars are the bargains of the century.

GaleForce

The TSX seems like a really fun car... its smaller than the TL and feel more "zippy" even though the TL is obviously faster. I would have defintely gotten it in 6MT if I decided to go with it, since it is just an overall fun car to drive.

What do you wish the TL had that the TSX has?

roadman

TSX comes w/Michelins, TL comes w/EL-42...Nuff said

DaT1PiNoYduDe

The TSX price. haha

Rcat

TSX 200hp,TL 270hp..really nuff said :p

Bxscig

The leather seats of the TSX are harder... less comfy compared to my Type S.

Teh Jatt

tsx has same leather as accord.

Teh Jatt

SilverJ

Interesting..I cross shopped the tsx vs the tl and found the quality of the TSX several notches below the TL in every way.Seats, dash materials, fit and finish, overall "feel" of car. The TSX feels like a civic si to me. Fun...but not a serious everyday car IMHO. I had a tsx as a loaver a few weeks ago and was very happy to get back into my tl. I do like the TSX looks though...

TLme

Sounds about right. I would think that the American plants must be up to par with the Japanese plants, but I have experienced American car manufacturing in the past (and currently) and have been VERY disappointed in the quality. The TL is my next vehicle, so I hope the rattles and squeaks will be remedied in future models. Thanks.

92NSX

So I wonder if it would be wise to get rid of the Mustang and get a TSX instead??? hmmmmm
BTW, you want to talk about poor quality control on a car...'Mustang' is the epitome of it.

rick955i

I had a TSX loaner, and granted, the poor thing had been ridden hard and put away wet, but I thank my lucky stars that I got the TL over the TSX (was considering both). I could discern no difference in the quality of the TL over the TSX, except for the fact that (for as much bitching on this forum as there is) the vinyl/leather in the TSX felt much cheaper than the all leather in the TL and the stereo wasn't to the leve l of refinement that the TL's is...oh and that little problem of 200hp and an automatic...other than tha, they are equal cars with different missions.

rick955i

You know, last year they actually shut the Dearborn Mustang line down for a couple of days because the cars were failing QC inspections at such a high rate. Yes, Quality if Job 1 !!!!

Mindcrime

Shouldn't we differentiate between American car manufacturers and American car manufacturing. No doubt most GM and Fords are junk but that has more to do with the company and what they stand for in regards to quality rather than the average american automotive worker. Toyota and Honda make cars in the US and their quality ratings are still high.

Fionn

I have a Ford right now and I have never had a problem with it. The car also took a hit from a Honda when I was rear ended.. and The Honda was destroyed... my back bumper had scratches.. and that was a mustang

Natismati

Fionn , who cares about your ford?

VQ35DE

Not to mention, the parts suppliers used by American makes vs Foreign makes fall along these same lines. There's simply a culture of quality inherrent with Japan's automakers that hardly exists with domestic automakers. That said, Garbage in, garbage out.

As far as the Europeans go they pretty much consider ANY non-European car unsophisticated and not road worthy. Including the USDM Honda Accord. Car magazine (UK) is pretty xenophobic in their review of non-European cars. I remember where they TOTALLY slammed the USDM 6G Accord coupe exported from Ohio to Europe. (While it's no Enzo or M5 or 330Ci, it does a lot of things well.) So I take their reviews on cars with a grain of salt.

Peace.

edwards

Fionn,

No disrespect but any car who hits you from behind get destroyed even a Ford.

automophile

galeforce - There are a lot of small details - The TSX has the turn-signal mirrors the TL was SUPPOSED to have, REAL fog lights below the bumper, the cargo hooks above the rear doors pull down and are damped, not just simple hooks, and so on. It seems that 2 totally different teams designed them. Other than the TL's brute power, the TSX seems more fun to drive - probably related to the size. My wife says that she likes it so much she will never buy another car! (We'll see).

92NSX

That doesn't shock me at all.

I haven't either unless you want to count having the following replaced under warranty.
1. Both headlights 2xs
2. Headliner
3. Floor carpet.
4. Speakers
5. Emission sensors 2xs
6. Both tailights.

Great Job1 !!

SilverJ

I always hear the TSX is so "fun" to drive. I was expecting to get a giant grin while test driving the car...best I could muster was a smirk. When I drove the TL..it was exhilerating to say the least roaring out of second gear. Not to say I need all that power. I found the Audi A4 a ton of fun to drive. TSX just felt like too little car for me...although the car looks sweettt....

Bobzmcishl

I could never figure out how Acura could charge $28k for a 200hp TSX when you can get the Honda 240hp V6 for at least $2k less. I drove both cars with the 6speed and found the Honda way more fun to drive than the Acura. I ended up with the TL which right now is in a quality price niche that no one else can match right now. The TSX should be about a 24k car.

TheOne305

ya i totally agree with ya

SilverJ

I totally agree as well. I liked the 4cyl manual accord drive better than the tsx.
And it was every bit as fast...and that was about 4k less than the TSX!

Xpditor

A chrome grille.
More power in the radio.
mp3
Price
weight

TooLate

What are these features you speak of?