Assuming I need one ( will attempt to do the o-ring replacement and pump overhaul as outlined in the 3G Garage - thanks Majofo and RS143 ) do any of you have any recommendations on which brand I should go for?

Rock auto has two different types on their site: Cardone and ATSCO

Here's the Rock Auto link: https://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/x,car...lete_Unit.html

Alternatively, any other recommendations on where to go for this OEM or otherwise? Obviously, I can go to one of our vendors for the OEM part but just wanted thoughts on OEM vs reman units and/or other replacement units.

My 05 has about 149k miles on it and its an AT. I changed the o-ring about 50k miles ago.

Thanks in advance.

 

Bueller?

 

Cardone seems like a good deal 255 with 3 year warranty vs atsco 273 with 1 year warranty. I have never order from rockauto nor have I use any of those products that you mention but I would go with Cardone.

 

Wasn't there a thread where someone used a 07-08 Type S rack. Ill look. I think they said it was a little stiffer or better feel of the road.

 

methinks you are referring to this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/08-tl-s-steering-rack-base-04-tl-auto-717373/

I thought about putting an S rack in. However, my question is still the same. I was just wondering if there are any other comparable recommendations out there at this point.

 

i had my power steering rack replaced 3 years ago under my extended warranty. my Acura dealer did the work and it was replaced using a OEM reman unit.

 

My car is getting 4k worth of work done at the dealer right now. Including a new rack! Thank you aftermarket warranty! Sweet!

 

Why do so many TLs have issues with the rack?

 

I thought the type-s thing was both the rack and pump. And the pump was the real difference maker. And the rack "butt impressions" was merely going from a high mileage rack to a lesser mileage rack.

No?

 

^ quote from Matt:

 

Oh I remembered the opposite! Thanks for the quotes.

 

Unless I'm mistaken, I think you'll find that all TL/TLS have a 15.4 steering ratio and a 2.8 turn lock to lock.

If you purchase from Rock Auto, use the following for a 5% discount:
Discount Code: 710F1AC6FB23
Expires: 03/24/2013

 

Some used units:
2005 Steering Rack/Box Acura TL BLU,10-11 A 22837 $150 Langston's Used Auto Parts USA-FL(Tampa) 1-813-988-7341

The following lists 8 available from various years:
2005 Steering Rack/Box Acura TL 3.2L,5-11 A 11D107 $Call Japanese & European Auto Parts USA-FL(Tampa) 1-813-663-9741

 

mine needs a rack also been slowly leaking since i bought it. i have had numerous good experiences with rock auto though. post up what you end up going with, i will probably do the same....

 

blah I had to replace my rack also...used a reman. unit.

On a side note....since you are replacing your rack and have to drop the subframe...throw in the Type-S FSB....I totally agree with IHC....with the Progress RSB the Type-S FSB really balances out the car and you can easily feel a difference

 

Is it just me or does the type-s have a better turning radius?

 

^ just you....read the quotes above

 

good idea, forgot about that.

 

Well, I got the car up on the rack at a trusted mechanic's shop and here is the problem:



My mechanic states that he can order this specific part/ boot and just replace that instead of redoing the entire rack. He showed me where the leak in the boot was and that in his opinion it seemed as though someone caused it. i.e someone intentionally punctured it due to the nature and location of the puncture.

 

There should be no fluid inside the boot, if there is your rack seal is leaking on that side. Someone may have poked a hole in that boot to find out why the fluid level was low & where the fluid was leaking out.

 

I might need a new steering rack soon... can anyone else chime in with advice for aftermarket steering racks? I'd really like to go with oem for everything, but given that oem rack is about $500 and aftermarket is less than half that, I'm giving it a thought.

 

Only problem I see with an aftermarket unit is that I highly doubt you'll get a TypeS unit. Take RockAuto for example, the racks listed for Base and TypeS utilize the same part numbers and also cover the 2003-2007 Honda Accord.

 

I gotta a new rack from Honda awaiting to be install, BTW I call Honda and ask why the rack has no inner tire rod when compare to after market and their response was " The rack you saw on ebay/amazon is a rebuilt unit also know as long rack which included inner tire rods and dust boot, Honda OEM rack is a brand new unit aka short rack therefore inner tire rod does not included."

The reason I went with OEM rack because I don't want to gamble with my Type S having a base rack therefore I spend about $850 just for part (other misc item too like lower ball joint). I check many website (rock auto, partsgeeks and amazon and they all say 04-08 fir all model so that kinda scare me. BTW the manufacture for our rack is Showa.

 

Maybe mistaken, but the Honda rack doesn't appear to be the same as the TL rack.
The 2007 Honda specs are 2.94 lock to lock, 15.21 ratio.

Any info?

 

All Acura parts are made by Honda, I called them provide with TYPE S Part number and make sure that its the Type S rack.

 

So there are no aftermarket type S racks? Only base TL ones?

 

yes, to my knowlege you are not guarantee 100% the aftermarket rack is specific for Type S.

 

Yes, they are made by Honda, but to different specifications.
If it were the same part, it would have the same Acura/Honda part number, but it doesn't, so I say a different rack.
Just an example would be the steering bracket:
53438-SDA-A00 in both the Honda and Acura OEM parts catalog and both list $6.84
Even the bolts, washers, cotter pins are a different size on the TL.

Complete Rack from OEM catalog:
Honda Accord 23601-SDB-A11 $745.77
Acura TL-S 53601-SEP-A54 $589.37

I'd check farther

 

I don't know why you still arguing, here is what the part number label on actual rack. The part number had been verified by Honda, Delray Acura, oemacuraparts.com (which where I purchase) and two of my local Acura indeed 53601-SEP-A54 DOES belong to Type S model.

53601-SEP-A04 belong to 07-08 Base TL
53601-SEP-A53 belong to 04-06 TL

 

You had stated that is was a Honda rack assembly, but that's not a Honda rack, that's an Acura rack, big difference, made by American Showa in Ohio.
Not arguing, but as the thread is nearly 3 years old and viewed quite often, just wanted to make certain others know what application should be used.

 

Anyone with a type S that used an aftermarket replacement want to chime in?

 

Thought I'd reply, the only difference in the rack assembly, TL/TL-S is the valve assembly. The balance of the parts are the same.

 

paperboy how bad is your leak? any wobble or loosing some steering wheel tightness?

 

thought there was an old recall on the issue :

Honda expands power steering hose recall to 572,000 Accords - latimes

Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Acura Owners Site

 

not bad, but there is residue noticeable coming from the inner tie rod boot, I noticed it because there is a small tear on the boot also. When I removed the boot to examine it, I noticed some oil leaking out the rack assembly. I havent needed to top off power steering fluid, but I did notice the fluid level on the reservoir dropped slightly. In terms of driving, there isnt much difference, maybe a bit looser feel, but that might just be in my head. However, there is a noticeable clunk when I turn the steering wheel with the engine off. Also, when I had the car on jacks, I tried to turn the wheel back and forth and it did seem like there is free play in some angles.

 

Description above is correct as my symptom but mine leak more than that.

 

I think I'll probably just end up going with oem, but I'll save up in the meantime while the leak isn't that bad yet

 

Just curious if there are other compatible racks that have a tighter ratio? I recently picked up my 07 TL-S and not use to putting so much effort into a wheel in a long time.

 

The Type S has tighter steering than base. My wife complaint about the steering when she drove it for the first time. Also it explain why most carfac history m show previous owner has steering suspension checked.