Do you guys think a suped up bmw 335 or a 4g tl suped up will win.

 

335 will win.. its turbo.. lol

 

Bmw

 

turbo charge your 4th gen, and it will be a bmw killer

 

335i is fast... but its not the king of the road

my 08 TL Type-S used to beat (stock) 335i's off the line, all the time. I had intake, pulley, gaskets, TB spacers, pre cat deletes, j-pipe, catback exhaust and 75A engine mounts...

if you chip a 335i... then you start getting into wild territory.

 

Break My Windows

 

335i without a doubt

 

nice kill

 

Bimmer.

 

this should be a sticky

 

suped up lol

 

No soup for you.

- the soup nazi

 

LOL...I love Seinfeld

 

The beamer all day.....they don't call it the ultimate driving machine for nothing ..........there's many cars out here that come stock with so much power that you would have to spend grands on a TL to beable to compete .....so by the time that other car throws grands the TL can def no longer compete...................

I am convinced that the only reason most of us buy TL's till this day is mainly because of the pricing of the TL and just the natural love some of us have for the TL ..............................

 

Coughcough... did someone call my name?
Lol

 

"suped up" = not stock peoples.

 

With those mods you are quicker than stock 335i for sure. Those mods without a pulley will be 1+1/2 car length ahead of 335 (w/ intake) in a 50-130 roll. Now 335 with a cheap tune w/ DPs, intake, will put buses in front of modified TL-S lol. A 4g with SC and bolt ons I think would be head to head with fully modified 335. Actually I think the 335 would be a little faster haha

 

Not a chance... an CAI, exhaust only 335I runs low 13s to high 12s @ around 107 to 109mph. Adding just a tune to that will have the car at mid 12s @ 111 to 114mph.. add some headers and your looking at low 12s.. add some race gas to that and its mid 11s.. I have never seen a 4g with SC and boltons run mid 12s... if I'm wrong then I would love to see the vid...

 

The BMW is in a different league than the TL. I LOVE the TL, but it's no 335. I like the styling of the TL better, but the N54/55 is a serious motor. In performance, the 335 is leagues beyond the TL. A full bolt on TL 6MT or TL-s would have a hard time keeping up with a 335 with the least aggressive tune available, let alone any of the good ones.

Unless the 4G was turbo, it has no shot beating a "suped up" 335.

 

Take your TL-S to the strip and report back. Even with your mods, I don't see your car coming close to mid 13s@104mph+ like a stock 335i is more than capable of.

 

He doesn't have it anymore, he has a 4G now. But his Type-S was strong. Stock, it put down ~235-240, after all mods ~295 whp on the same dyno.

 

I don't know man, last one I raced was a 6-speed 335i sedan and it left me like I was standing, when I was in 2nd he was already in front, then all I heard was that sexy exhaust note and his taillights pulling away from me, and all he had was a CAI (or so he said) lol. Those shits are fasttt and with even minor mods they get much faster.

 

I know, but dynos really mean nothing to me. There are many 290-300whp G35s and 350Zs running around LA that dyno at a shop with a very optistic dyno. These cars are no faster at the strip than other Gs/Zs in nation that put down the more typical 240-260whp. My point is, dynos are good for one thing....gauging power gains/losses.

I highly doubt his TL-S is going to outrun a bonestock 335i (auto or manual). I could see the possiblity of outrunning a stock 335 convertible since they're about 400lbs heavier and do lower 14s. A stock hardtop though? Not seeing it.

Over all these years, has there even been a single 3rd gen TL-S that's broken the 13-second barrier yet? If it was norm for modded TL-S' to be going mid 13s with simple bolt-ons, then I'd believe a modded TL-S can outrun a 335. If I remember correctly, every TL-S I've seen post up their runs shows low to mid 14s at 96-100mph. Yes, ET is largely variable, but MPH is not if. If TL-S' were showing 104+ traps, I'd start to believe a modded TL-S has a chance against a stock 335.

 

I'm just playing devil's advocate, but, not all 335i's are trapping 104-105 mph in stock form. I've seen published road tests where they trap 103 mph, and plenty of stock ones on Dragtimes trapping 102-103 mph. Hell, I see Dinan and Procede tuned ones on there trapping only 105-106. Not to mention, it could have been an xi he beat, which trap 100-102 mph stock at best. I've got some seat time in an '07 335i automatic, and while very fast off the line, it didn't feel exceptional in the 60-100 mph range. It's not like they're a 110 mph car.

And I know not a lot of Type-S owners hit the track, and it's even tougher to believe it here when we're talking about a 5AT car, but there are still base 6MT's with bolt ons running well into the 13's. Here's a 2G Type-S 6MT swap running 13.7 @ 102, which is on the slower end of the spectrum for a stock 335i. Throw some drag radials on there and it's a 13.5x.

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/1-4-mile-run-6-speed-813214/

 

My buddy Fan_888 breaks into the 13's in the quarter mile for sure. But mid to low 13s Im doubtful. I have no experience from a dig but I will tell you that from a roll, a TLS with those mods will pull away from bone stock 335i 24/7

 

Not keeping this up for very long. I believe this was in Mexico, tho I wouldnt know for sure since I dont know who the drivers are

 

TL-S is long gone. never tracked her, so I cant post results. But I dyno'ed the car at 294whp before i installed the HFC and IM gaskets. Plus i installed 75A engine mounts, so the car wouldnt wheel hop and tq steer was decreased.

you can choose to believe, or not... but i had beaten quite a few 335i's... However, i've had my ass handed to me be plenty of 335i's too... so take it for what its worth

 

nice! but how sure are you its a 335 and not a 328?

did look like he was red-lining

 

it also has a lot to do with the driver. a TL-S is a transverse mounted FWD sedan, with shitty liquid engine mounts, and crappy MXM4 tires. can you say "Wheel hop, torque steer and no control??"

i had lightweight wheels, grippy tires, 75A poly-u engine mounts, with a raked front end. all the mods i had, and knowing how to launch the TL-S with no VSA on, i have taken quite a handful of nice cars down.... again, choose to believe or not... but i've beaten Porsche Boxsters, 335i, Audi S4 (B6's) and other cars that were probably not heavily modified, off the line.

Plus the drivers just mash the gas pedal, and spin their wheels wrong

the other note to this, i never drag raced these cars to 120+ mph from a stop. i would give it my all until 70-80ish and then let that rambunctious person go over 110+. not my cup of tea anymore

one of my friends used some little iPhone app or tool or something to get my 0-60 times. i never swore by the thing or considered it 100% accurate, but it put me in high 4's/low 5's numerous times


NOW once you had a Good tune, an exhaust and intake on a 335i... forgetaboutit. then those cars start running 12 sec 1/4 miles at ridiculous trap speeds

 

Go to youtube and type in "Bone stock 335i." See the video that comes up of a bone stock 6MT doing accel runs. I think that will change your mind about this last comment.

I ran a couple of these. The most recent run I had was with an older man at a red light. He got me clear on the launch by about a car. But neither pulled at all up to 100mph. He stayed that 1 car ahead of me the whole time. It was auto and NOT the convertible. He was definitely on it the whole time as well. I honked at him as he turned and he gave me a nod. Kinda cool that he was a middle aged guy, probably in his 40s.

With that said, I also beat an E46 M3 6MT (about equal to a stock 335i) by 2 cars. That doesn't mean I'm faster than the M3 though; I'm not. It was clear driver error. I'd love to run one again though after my new Jpipe, which will FINALLY finish up my quest for a full 3in setup.